ICNES II: A New Order

I do not mind as long they put their title at the bottom like signed so and so. They do not need to address the other rulers long title unless it is a special occasion like the wedding in my opinion.
 
To Sultan Mustafa III,Pharoh of the Upper and Lower Nile,Defender of the Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina,King of Damascus,King of Mespotamia, Emperor of all Turks, of the Ottoman Dynasty

Her Imperial Majesty will only agree to a five year pact of non-agression if the additional lands in the map below are added We will also pay an extra economic point. In order to sign the ten year pact of non-agression you must remove your claims to Algeria. As a sign of friendship, we will extend the pact of non-agression to fifteen years as well as send an extra economic point in two years in addition to the two that will be sent next year.

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Signed and Sealed, Her Imperial Majesty Czarina Catherine II the Great of the House of Romanov,
Heiress to Rome, Mother of Her Country, Guardian of the Holy Orthodox Faith, and Empress of All the Russias​


OOC: Sorry that I got this whole name thing started. Well, at least mine is shorter than the others. I mean seriously, the Austrian one is freaking long. Sheep should really put most of it in a spoiler.
 
To: Her Imperial Majesty Czarina Catherine II the Great of the House of Romanov,
Heiress to Rome, Mother of Her Country, Guardian of the Holy Orthodox Faith, and Empress of All the Russias


We agree to these terms and the releaseing of Algeria.Also to the 2 points now and 1 later.We hope that our two Empires can come to further terms of alliance in the future.

Signed,
Sultan Mustafa III,Caliph of Islam,Pharoh of the Upper and Lower Nile,Defender of the Holy Cities of Mecca and Medina,King of Damascus,King of Mespotamia, Emperor of all Turks, of the Ottoman Dynasty
 
Sheep said:
I was bored but uninspired, so I just researched the long handed Offical of the offical Imperial title of Maria Thresca. **** its long!

Her Imperial Majesty the Holy Roman Empress, Maria Theresca, Guardian of the Gates of Vienna, Defender of the Catholic Faith, Lord Protector of the Imperial City, Archduchess of the Union of Upper and Lower Austria, Queen of Hungary, Grand Elector of Bavaria, Queen of the Bohemian Crown lands of Bohemia, Silesia and Moravia, Duchess of Styria, Duchess of Carthinia, Duchess of Carnolia, Patron of the City of Trieste, Duchess of Istria, Protector of the Communes of Gorizia - Gradisca, Crown Princess of Transylvannia, Empress of the Gross Austrian Reich and Ruler of the House of Haspburg.

Got to love Imperial Royal families and their titles :P

It's THERESA! Stop writing "Thresca"!
 
ThomAnder said:
Ottoman... Russia... Alliance? o_0

Actually, it's more like the Ottomans are lying prostate before the Russians and Austrians. Luckymoose has sealed his doom with his last five or six posts, and I feel bad enough that I have to point it out to him.
 
Cuivienen said:
Actually, it's more like the Ottomans are lying prostate before the Russians and Austrians. Luckymoose has sealed his doom with his last five or six posts, and I feel bad enough that I have to point it out to him.

No I beleive you are wrong.I haven't sealed my fate as my fate is to fall.I have merely bought my self time before my enevitable defeat.Unless they uphold there Alliance.
 
Here's a little family tree detailing the relationship between the two "Maria Antonias" (the daughter of Maria Theresa listed as "Marie Antoinette" to avoid confusion).

RoyalFamilyTree.JPG


Now a brief history:

Emperor Leopold I's first two wives provided him with no surviving male heirs, but with his third wife he was blessed with two: Joseph (the elder) and Charles. At Leopold's death in 1701, Joseph became Emperor Joseph I. His marriage produced no surviving sons, so at his death in 1711 his younger brother became Emperor Charles VI. He, too, had no sons, so he issued the Pragmatic Sanction of 1713, which provided for his posessions to be inherited by his eldest daughter, Maria Theresa; the title of Emperor would go to her husband, Francis Duke of Lorraine. Most European monarchs agreed to this, and the issue seemed settled. At his death in 1740, however, many countries contested the succession, and the War of Austrian Succession began. The office of Emperor was taken by Charles Elector of Bavaria, Joseph I's son-in-law, becoming Charles VII. Maria Theresa's Austrian forces would defeat him and take Bavaria, and after his death his son Maximilian would make peace with the Habusburgs, agreeing to support Francis Duke of Lorraine in exchange for the return of Bavaria.

Both Maria Theresa and Charles VII, enemies in war, would name a daughter Maria Antonia. They were second cousins.

I hope that wasn't too complicated. :crazyeye:
 
It's compounded by the fact that the deceased wife of Charles III of Spain was also a Maria Amalia, which had me confused for a while.
 
Luckymoose said:
No I beleive you are wrong.I haven't sealed my fate as my fate is to fall.I have merely bought my self time before my enevitable defeat.Unless they uphold there Alliance.

Your reforms? Haven't you heard of the fate of Selim III, overthrown by the Jannisaries because he tried to reform the military (in a much less radical way than you are doing, and later in history)? Not to mention how much the people will dislike you for acting like a rug for the Russians and Austrians.
 
Okay. Domestic Events are done, PC stats are done and the map is 90-99% finished.

Just to keep you guys on edge...
 
Cuivienen said:
It's compounded by the fact that the deceased wife of Charles III of Spain was also a Maria Amalia, which had me confused for a while.

Yes, and she's Frederick Christian's sister, so she's not far off the chart.
 
Kentharu said:
when you screw up the ottomans moose, i would like to take over

K but if I mess up there won't be a Ottoman Empire to take over.

And the military reforms are much less than you think.I'm bringing it to great ness.If the people fail too understand this then they are fools.
 
w/e ottomans always die and become fragmented. it happens always with anyone who isn't a european nation
 
Just need to write the Spotlight and finish stats. Update will come in a few hours as I have a bad sunburn and my fingers are raw from chlorine. It may be postponed until tomorrow morning.
 
use some aloe ice, and could whoever takes britain answer siam's diplo
 
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