Imperium Offtopicum

[Mathalamus]

I already claimed all major Islands in Indonesia Choxorn.

which reminds me, how would you like an alliance?

 

[Omega124]

ah. i still don't know how the soviet union lost the winter war but the Afghanistan war is well documented.

Oh yeah, I also forgot Korea as well. One of the most powerful countries in the world (China), couldn't even take a half of a peninsula.

It seems like, with the exception of Vietnam and Bay of Pigs, the only time a Communistic country wins if it is fighting another communistic country. WWII doesn't count because it was a joint fight of multiple Democracies and a Communist against two Fascists.

 

[Tani Coyote]

I already claimed all major Islands in Indonesia Choxorn.

My next map update(which will have the Thirteen States in it), I'll give him the islands leftover in Indonesia. Unless there happens to be a council ruling(I doubt we'll ever have this issue unless someone wants to be an uber-superpower), most of Indonesia is likely to stay yours.

 

[Mathalamus]

Oh yeah, I also forgot Korea as well. One of the most powerful countries in the world (China), couldn't even take a half of a peninsula.

It seems like, with the exception of Vietnam and Bay of Pigs, the only time a Communistic country wins if it is fighting another communistic country. WWII doesn't count because it was a joint fight of multiple Democracies and a Communist against two Fascists.

two? i counted three. but i guess Italy did nothing but lose.

 

[Tani Coyote]

I should have posted a bookmark post for diplomatic affairs... I guess I'll just put it in the world map post so we can keep track of alliances. Make sure to add any specific details of your alliance in a certain post(negotiate the details via PM, please), so that I may link to it on the front page.

Edit: Mathalamus and Omega, I don't mean to sound rude, but please continue your discussion in either:

1. The History forum
2. private messages/IMs/etc. Whatever works for you.
3. Off-topic; be aware that the topic would be closed/moved if it doesn't fit the area, however.

Not to insult your discussion, of course(I'm following with interest), but this isn't the right thread for it.

 

[Omega124]

My next map update(which will have the Thirteen States in it), I'll give him the islands leftover in Indonesia. Unless there happens to be a council ruling(I doubt we'll ever have this issue unless someone wants to be an uber-superpower), most of Indonesia is likely to stay yours.

OOC: See below

I support this decision and for my country, Marylander Empire:Maryland, Delaware, Bermuda, Barbados, Navassa Island, Crimea, Ireland and South West Africa (same as last time) edit: my color Dark Green

IC: There seems to be a conflict of land between our nations. Our very first state is in your lands, and so is the state with the most awesomest commercial in the world. Give them both up, or we have a war between us.

two? i counted three. but i guess Italy did nothing but lose.

Riiight... I failed there. And it doesn't help Italy was the first of them to go fasist.

Also, the Italians were kinda awesome in Africia both Eithopia and Egypt, but they still got pwn'd.

 

[DroopyTofu]

Sweet, this time we actually get rules! Omega124, there's no way I could convince you to cede me your land from Virginia south so that I may resurrect the Confederate States of America, is there? If not, I'll gladly take about what I had last time, with a few changes. If the CSA falls through, I want Brazil, Argentina, Uraguay, Paraguay, Venezula, Columbia, Bolivia, and Panama.

Is it okay if I lay a double claim until I get an answer from Omega124? Please, Omega, I promise I'll be a real nice neighbor!

 

[Omega124]

Sorry, but the awesomeness of Virginia (And West Virginia) is not for sale. However, a bribe from you /might/ allow me to cede the rest of the south. So, name your bribe.

 

[DroopyTofu]

Uh, what do you want? I can live without Virginia. I'll give a bunch of Southern Hospitality.

Seriously, what do you want? Name your price.

 

[Omega124]

For assistance in reclaiming Maryland and Delaware. Allowing me to keep Georgia and the Carolinas (There is a lot of other states in the CSA) and helping me reclaim those states, I'll throw in a free alliance, plus an X amount of money EACH TURN. Hopefully, the two of us can survive peacefully!

 

[Mad Man]

Mad Man, what do you mean by South West Africa? As in, a general range of countries?

Edit: Never mind. Souther West Africa, i.e. all those small countries along the coast, you mean?

You got it dude

The (Original Thirteen) States of America

(Official name is The United States of America, but is more commonly known as The Original Thirteen States of America)

Color: Dark Blue, just like the Blue on Americia's flag.

Comprises of:

Mass.
Maine (Part of Mass.)
New Hampshire
Conn.
Rhode Island
New York
Vermont (Part of New York)
New Jersey
Penn.
Delaware
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia (Part of Virginia)
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia

(Map real soon!)

Maryland and Delaware are already spoken for sorry

 

[DroopyTofu]

So now you're keeping Georgia, the Carolinas, and Virginia? Isn't that all the land I'd originally asked for? If I can get GA, SC, and NC, I'll help get you Maryland and Deleware. I'd also ally with you. As your ally, I'd suggest extending your territory west. I'm taking as far west as Texas, if I can get the Atlantic coast. I think it would be in your best interest to claim west at least to Illinois.

I still lay a partial claim to the afore mentioned lands in South America if I can't work out a deal with Omega.

 

[sophie]

I would like my neutral nation back, please. Same borders are fine

This is what it looked like, in case anyone's confused

Country name: Librul Republik of Pacifistan

National Anthem: Scott McKenzie "San Francisco"

Army: Small, but extremely well trained. Due to it's neutral status, Pacifistan doesn't put a heavy emphasis on military, just enough of a force to deter any greedy dictators from trying to gobble it up.

Air force: Equally small, but very high tech. Pacifistan prides itself on a very efficient air force.

Navy: Large. Not Marian large, but quite substantial. Once again, it acts more as a deterrent force, and a police force against ecological terrorists.

Capital: San Francisco, for as the great Eric Burdon once said in his delightful song San Francisco Nights "This following program is dedicated to the city and people of San Francisco, who may not know it, but they are beautiful, and so is their city."

Development rating: First World

Economic style: Mixed, but leans towards socialism.

Political setup: Operates as a bicameral representative democracy similar to the US, with a president elected. Electoral college does not exist.

Social policy: Extreme left. Socially liberal; most drugs are legalized, as is gay marriage, etc. etc.

Foreign policy: Neutral. Will go to any length to maintain neutrality.

 

[Omega124]

Maryland and Delaware are already spoken for sorry

Please actually read my resluting post.

OOC: See below



IC: There seems to be a conflict of land between our nations. Our very first state is in your lands, and so is the state with the most awesomest commercial in the world. Give them both up, or we have a war between us.



Riiight... I failed there. And it doesn't help Italy was the first of them to go fasist.

Also, the Italians were kinda awesome in Africia both Eithopia and Egypt, but they still got pwn'd.

 

[TheLastOne36]

which reminds me, how would you like an alliance?

Sure.

 

[Omega124]

So now you're keeping Georgia, the Carolinas, and Virginia? Isn't that all the land I'd originally asked for? If I can get GA, SC, and NC, I'll help get you Maryland and Deleware. I'd also ally with you. As your ally, I'd suggest extending your territory west. I'm taking as far west as Texas, if I can get the Atlantic coast. I think it would be in your best interest to claim west at least to Illinois.

I still lay a partial claim to the afore mentioned lands in South America if I can't work out a deal with Omega.

No, no, no.

If you take NC, SC, and GA, you'll have to help me take Maryland and Delaware.

If allow me to keep those states, AND help me, I'll ally with you and I'll give YOU money each turn, as payment for allowing me to keep them.

Plus, my name is:

The Original Thirteen States of America.

I can't claim anything but those 13 states.

 

[Mad Man]

Please actually read my resulting post.

Your missing the point Maryland IS the country there's nothing to give away, thats like asking France to give up France.

 

[mangxema]

Country name: Corsica & Sardinia

Capital: Sassari (Northern Sardinia)

Army: Largely citizen militias. There is a small corps of professionals who have trained in the army of *ALLY_TBD*, but in the event of a hostile attack, most of the soldiers would be common folk who have fulfilled their mandatory basic training.

Air force: N/A

Navy: Most CorSar vessels are merchant ships. Back in the day they had a fine navy, but today they really don't have the infrastructure to build a warship, instead relying on *ALLY_TBD* in the event of a conflict.

Development rating: Developing. Some areas are really nice because of private investment, but overall the standard of living is fairly low.

Political setup: Monarchy, currently King Giovanni III. Although traditionally the King/Queen often defers to a council of popular representatives, he/she doesn't technically have to.

Economic style: Primarily capitalist, although due to its small size, some institutions are spearheaded by the Royal Family.

Primary industries: Tourism. CorSar boasts numerous beach resorts, making it a great getaway location. Also, gambling, prostitution, and marijuana are legal in Corsica, leading to a hefty deal of 'vice tourism'. Also trade, some manufacturing (esp. boats), and agriculture.

Social policy: Very permissive. People in CorSar tend not to stick their noses in other people's business. You can basically do whatever you want as long as you do it privately. Sardinia is more restrictive to maintain the idyllic image of paradise.

Foreign policy: Generally stay out of foreign affairs.

 

[Omega124]

Your missing the point Maryland IS the country there's nothing to give away, thats like asking France to give up France.

*War Drums music play*

Your head would look good on a pike.

"The United (Original Thirteen) States of America declares war on The Maryland Empire"

 

[Tani Coyote]

I'm about to go eat dinner; I'll update everything after I get back.

I also added the "laws of war" to the front, in preparation for any outbreak of hostilities. Any questions, please let me know. I tried to be as reasonable as possible with them, so let me know if you have any questions/comments.