Important- How To Make The RPG Fun Again
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I'm having fun 
I think more people need to get into the roleplaying aspect...rather then just shops and land....the Religions of Fanatika thread is an EXCELLENT example..as are the tourneys such as the tourney I'm starting sooon.....
I think more people need to get into the roleplaying aspect...rather then just shops and land....the Religions of Fanatika thread is an EXCELLENT example..as are the tourneys such as the tourney I'm starting sooon.....
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Look at Equirias........we've had tons of purchases...and acroama homes has had a TON of them....just no one really wants to buy a sword if they're never gonna use it...at least homes and horses are useful for tourneys and investiture.
This is what I've been saying all along. 
For about 4-5 months now...
We need to be able to do stuff without worrying if it's "officially a business or personal 'venture'". The RPG that I had envisioned would have been more sponteneous. Like, if you get the University at a city, someone would make a thread (it doesn't have to be "theirs", or "owned" by anyone), just they're the "first customer". Or, if there's a barracks that's built, someone can make a "Horsemanship training" post or two in there. If there's a harbor, have marinas and boating contests. When resources are mined or roaded, they can be traded in the nation, and/or you could work there. (and gain income that way).
For about 4-5 months now...We need to be able to do stuff without worrying if it's "officially a business or personal 'venture'". The RPG that I had envisioned would have been more sponteneous. Like, if you get the University at a city, someone would make a thread (it doesn't have to be "theirs", or "owned" by anyone), just they're the "first customer". Or, if there's a barracks that's built, someone can make a "Horsemanship training" post or two in there. If there's a harbor, have marinas and boating contests. When resources are mined or roaded, they can be traded in the nation, and/or you could work there. (and gain income that way).
Grandmaster
Deity
Hmm..... where do I start?.....
1. People need to start utilizing the part of the title that says ROLE PLAYING game. I've been working with the roleplays more and more recently, and its a hell of a lot more fun than sitting back and just buying beer and land. The various tourneys, the Internal Conflicts, the Religions thread, all excellant examples and all really fun. Come on people, give it a chance.
2. All we are saying is give Laissez Faire a chance. When this game first started the RPG was bustling. Why? We had a ruleset consisting of all of 5 or so rules. None of this "1-tech-forward" or "official price" junk. If people want to sell something, let them sell it. If its offensive, alright, then stop them. But if someone wants to start a business that sells objects sold by the state-run business, who cares what price they sell them at? Let them price it themselves, don't say "well it has to be blah-di-blah percent of the official price." And if someone wants to sell something that is more advanced then we have in the game, let them! Really, who cares? If people feel like sitting back and playing with sticks in a hut until we actually advance to another age, they can do that on their own without the Manager's intervention. Or if someone decides that when we only just got feudalism they want a musket (what blasphemy!) just let them. It'll make things more fun. There are probably a bunch of people who feel so intimidated and confused by the new rules that they don't play. Hell, I nearly stopped playing after some of the new rules passed. And yes, they are REALLY CONFUSING, because I've almost gotten into trouble because I didn't understand them. So just tone down the rules a bit and give someone who isn't a RL stockbroker, RL lawyer, RL executive, or Shaitan a chance to play.
3. Something I have noticed. When a store opens, it seems that whoever owns it or the partners who run it fill every role in the place. With the exception of a very few stores (the few, the proud, the Rebel Pub) nobody has any employees. Maybe put an official bonus for working for somebody else instead of starting your own business? Say, like 10 or 20 gptc added to the base salary, but not paid by the employer, but rather by the RPG Cloud?
4. And finally, I know this is more of a beef with the CFC administration, but I'll post it anyway for the sake of symetry (yes, 4 is a nice even number...) Why exactly did they stop counting DG RPG posts in your postcount. I noticed that when they stopped doing that, it started to slow down a bit. Come on, so we're the Kings of Spam, who cares? Does it really matter in the end? I know citizens who don't have any postcount whatsoever because they only play the RPG (true fact.) That would make the RPG more fun, at least in my mind, which is something we won't discuss.
Anyways, these are my suggestions, I'll be back later with some more if the mods don't get me.
**End rant**
1. People need to start utilizing the part of the title that says ROLE PLAYING game. I've been working with the roleplays more and more recently, and its a hell of a lot more fun than sitting back and just buying beer and land. The various tourneys, the Internal Conflicts, the Religions thread, all excellant examples and all really fun. Come on people, give it a chance.
2. All we are saying is give Laissez Faire a chance. When this game first started the RPG was bustling. Why? We had a ruleset consisting of all of 5 or so rules. None of this "1-tech-forward" or "official price" junk. If people want to sell something, let them sell it. If its offensive, alright, then stop them. But if someone wants to start a business that sells objects sold by the state-run business, who cares what price they sell them at? Let them price it themselves, don't say "well it has to be blah-di-blah percent of the official price." And if someone wants to sell something that is more advanced then we have in the game, let them! Really, who cares? If people feel like sitting back and playing with sticks in a hut until we actually advance to another age, they can do that on their own without the Manager's intervention. Or if someone decides that when we only just got feudalism they want a musket (what blasphemy!) just let them. It'll make things more fun. There are probably a bunch of people who feel so intimidated and confused by the new rules that they don't play. Hell, I nearly stopped playing after some of the new rules passed. And yes, they are REALLY CONFUSING, because I've almost gotten into trouble because I didn't understand them. So just tone down the rules a bit and give someone who isn't a RL stockbroker, RL lawyer, RL executive, or Shaitan a chance to play.
3. Something I have noticed. When a store opens, it seems that whoever owns it or the partners who run it fill every role in the place. With the exception of a very few stores (the few, the proud, the Rebel Pub) nobody has any employees. Maybe put an official bonus for working for somebody else instead of starting your own business? Say, like 10 or 20 gptc added to the base salary, but not paid by the employer, but rather by the RPG Cloud?
4. And finally, I know this is more of a beef with the CFC administration, but I'll post it anyway for the sake of symetry (yes, 4 is a nice even number...) Why exactly did they stop counting DG RPG posts in your postcount. I noticed that when they stopped doing that, it started to slow down a bit. Come on, so we're the Kings of Spam, who cares? Does it really matter in the end? I know citizens who don't have any postcount whatsoever because they only play the RPG (true fact.) That would make the RPG more fun, at least in my mind, which is something we won't discuss.
Anyways, these are my suggestions, I'll be back later with some more if the mods don't get me.
**End rant**
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
In regards to number four, I agree, our posts should get counted.
I don't see how this is going to increase the fun of the RPG. Regardless, it is not going to happen.
Grandmaster
Deity
I don't see how it can hurt, Eyrei. And why not?
The main reason for this change in the first place was that 'old school' posters on CFC, whose postcounts were the result of years of making substantial posts, were being quickly overcome by the postcounts of people making very short 'spammish' posts in the RPG. Just as many of you take a certain pride in your postcounts, so do these people. However, the difference is that most posts in the RPG (though not all) require little thought or effort on the part of the poster (at least this is how it is perceived). If you were posting similar things in any other forum at CFC, you would be warned a couple times and then banned for spamming if you continued. The reason it is not going to change is that Thunderfall put a lot of effort into enacting this effect in the first place, and I see no reason to ask him to do so.
If you want to increase your postcount, post in the rest of the demogame forums.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Or post in the regular Forums
McNulty
Chieftain
I am glad that some of you are enjoying the Religions of Fanatika thread, I am certainly enjoying my many roles therein.
The current plot thread is really coming along. I am happy that it is making such good links with other plots, Disorganiser's pilgrimage, the continuing terrorist threat to Fanatika, and so on. Let's keep it up!
The current plot thread is really coming along. I am happy that it is making such good links with other plots, Disorganiser's pilgrimage, the continuing terrorist threat to Fanatika, and so on. Let's keep it up!
Cyc
Looking for the door...
You know why RPG life isn't as fun for you people as it could be, is because you don't get out to eat a good meal enough. 
I don't think post count has anything to do with involvement with the RPG. If it is a major factor, than the dedication level of those who feel that way may need some adjustment. I'm sure I've had some of the longest and some of the shortest posts in the RPG. I remember when I was making lengthy post in the first Culture Dept thread of the DG1, which is in effect a role-playing game, and I used to see posts of "I agree.." . I would think, why am I putting all this effort into the game when others are just basically just "checking in". I'll tell you why...because it was fun.
Let's stop worrying about if the RPG or the DG2 is a success or contributing to the success of anyone's post count. Who cares if we're the world's best multi-player Demogame experience (which we probably are ). It's about having fun. It's about communicating with others in a venue that you mutually enjoy and appreciate. We even get to bicker, ***** about, and blast those ideas we disagree with.
It may be that most people have reached the end of their creativity pocket. Now they're waiting for some one to invent TV. That's not really their fault and there's not really much you can do about it. Except carry on with your creativity, and hope they follow.
OK, sorry. I'm done. Have a good Holiday.
I don't think post count has anything to do with involvement with the RPG. If it is a major factor, than the dedication level of those who feel that way may need some adjustment. I'm sure I've had some of the longest and some of the shortest posts in the RPG. I remember when I was making lengthy post in the first Culture Dept thread of the DG1, which is in effect a role-playing game, and I used to see posts of "I agree.." . I would think, why am I putting all this effort into the game when others are just basically just "checking in". I'll tell you why...because it was fun.
Let's stop worrying about if the RPG or the DG2 is a success or contributing to the success of anyone's post count. Who cares if we're the world's best multi-player Demogame experience (which we probably are
). It's about having fun. It's about communicating with others in a venue that you mutually enjoy and appreciate. We even get to bicker, ***** about, and blast those ideas we disagree with. It may be that most people have reached the end of their creativity pocket. Now they're waiting for some one to invent TV. That's not really their fault and there's not really much you can do about it. Except carry on with your creativity, and hope they follow.
OK, sorry. I'm done. Have a good Holiday.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
Well said Cyc!
Well said, indeed! 
As for me, I am still having fun! No, I don't go visiting the shops, or the pub, so much anymore. If I find I need something, I just go find the shop that sells it, and purchase it. But I am enjoying the tournaments, and the religions thread, as well as threads like Lancre and Vanir. I even am enjoying being the Herald of Fanatika, with the Nobles thread. All this lets me role-play more, and be more creative, than I was at the start
As for me, I am still having fun! No, I don't go visiting the shops, or the pub, so much anymore. If I find I need something, I just go find the shop that sells it, and purchase it. But I am enjoying the tournaments, and the religions thread, as well as threads like Lancre and Vanir. I even am enjoying being the Herald of Fanatika, with the Nobles thread. All this lets me role-play more, and be more creative, than I was at the start
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*cough* Join my tourney *cough*
I think more people need to join different "houses" such as Vanir, Aegir, Lancre, Ankh Morpork, and such.....it's fun to compete between the houses and talk trash and it's all in good fun
I think more people need to join different "houses" such as Vanir, Aegir, Lancre, Ankh Morpork, and such.....it's fun to compete between the houses and talk trash and it's all in good fun
donsig
Low level intermediary
Wanna make it more fun? Take some of the WORK out of it.
As for post counts, I don't think the RPG posters should be *penalized*. I don't think it would take much to show that many other CFC forums and sub-forums are very low on *quality* posts.
As for post counts, I don't think the RPG posters should be *penalized*. I don't think it would take much to show that many other CFC forums and sub-forums are very low on *quality* posts.
disorganizer
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to the postcounts: and of course, many of thee "old" posters of cfc suddenly were confronted with the fact that those "monster spammers of the rpg" only lost a small percentage (10% in my case) of their posts
but just to prevent the rpg from being closed down i was one of the people bringing up the idea of deleting the postcount for the rpg... for savety.
as eyrei said, if too many people complain about the rpg, it could definitely be closed down or made "spam-free", which would destroy the game. for the sake of continuing it, we should not have a postcount here.
and who really cares about the postcount anyways? not me.
but just to prevent the rpg from being closed down i was one of the people bringing up the idea of deleting the postcount for the rpg... for savety.
as eyrei said, if too many people complain about the rpg, it could definitely be closed down or made "spam-free", which would destroy the game. for the sake of continuing it, we should not have a postcount here.
and who really cares about the postcount anyways? not me.
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