Interesting article about Gainesville Florida and famous entertainers.

[aimeeandbeatles]

I've heard about Gainesville, Florida referred to as being similiar to Liverpool, England. I'm really not sure what they're trying to say about that but heres an interesting article from 1998 I found, a bit lengthy read at 2 pages and I've nowhere near typed it:

Spoiler :

I hope somebody learns something from that

 

[Abaddon]

All it is saying is that it can link a few famous people to the same area...so what?

The point of Liverpool was that a significant number of "big" musicians all came from it in a similar area.. it was the "spark" of several music movements.

Gainesville is not that, it is a lot less, it merely, over a significant length of time, had a few famous people connected to it.



A boring, small paper article, barely worth reading then, let alone nearly 10 years later..if it didn't have Tom Petty in it, I doubt you would have cared either Aimee?

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Actually read this one too:
http://thepettyarchives.squareserve.org/newspaper/newspapers-2006/2006-08-19-gainesvillesun/

 

[sophie]

I'd say San Francisco in the late 60s or New York in the 40s/50s is much more of a Liverpool in terms of cultural influence than Gainesville has ever been in any period ever.

 

[SuperJay]

So this makes what, four Tom Petty threads on the front page of A&E alone? And now you're just posting links to articles on your own website? Poor form, IMO.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I dont even know why the hell I boter to post anything here anymore, every freaking time I just get some freaking variant of "shut up nboody cares." dammit.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

I dont even know why the hell I boter to post anything here anymore, every freaking time I just get some freaking variant of "shut up nboody cares." dammit.

Not true . Just look at the posts above . Some people do care , some people don't . But when the nature of your posts are either specifically about such a limited subject matter , or on face value about a different topic but get veered towards TP , then it's only reasonable to expect some heat .

A reasonable estimate is that 99% posters here have little or no interested in TP , however 99% of posters would also be interested in hearing interesting things about TP if it was not rammed down their throats . These numbers can be used to your advantage by being a little more selective .

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

oh come on. didn't have to click this thread. Its not a misleading title.

 

[Kyriakos]

Imagine me making all those threads about Therapy? (the band). Some would care for the first thread (as happened, but not that many), then the others would react, since the topic would be boring to them and would seem to be overkill.

I think that no one would bother you if you stuck with etiquette, namely waiting for a reply by someone else before you go on. Most of the time this means the thread will die, but that is what happens to 99% of the threads in this sub-forum.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

oh come on. didn't have to click this thread. Its not a misleading title.

Thus rendering my whole point invalid

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Its NOT forcing peoples throats! They dont force to click the thread!!!!! If I made a misleading title they'd think it was something else and click but i dont!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

Sheer technicality . I would argue that numerous threads started by you have no reference to TP in the title whatsoever , yet when I open one , the standard groan is my usual response . But that's not the point .

This is a FORUM , where people come to argue , laugh , learn , rave and rant . In the thread about Southern Rock I mentioned I had discovered Mudcrutch , and directed my reply specifically to you , in the hope that I could learn more . Any response ? No , just more articles and unrelated references to the life and times of TP .

I started a thread about Rugby League , a few people replied but essentially there was not a great deal of interest so I let it be . Today however , I bumped the thread as there is a game coming in a few days that I hope may be of interest to people who don't know much about the sport . Thus other posters can have a quick read , decide whether or not to pursue my suggestion and then move on .

What makes this place great is not what you or I or any specific poster has to say (Perfection may argue this point) . It's the sum total of a disparate group of people having a say on a wide range of topics

 

[Plotinus]

All right, so here's the thing.

Aimee can post about things of this nature here if she wants. There's no reason why someone can't post an article of this kind for discussion. The problem with the OP in this thread is not (primarily) the subject matter but the lack of any discussion. It is not helpful just to post an article and say "I hope someone learns something from that." You should say why you think it's interesting and invite discussion. E.g. "Do you think Gainsville, FL can really claim to be as important musically as Liverpool? Who are the main musicians associated with Liverpool other than the Beatles?" or something along those lines.

The reason people are objecting to the OP isn't (just) the Tom Petty link but the fact that you're just posting something you've found (which is related to Tom Petty) with no attempt at starting a real discussion. So that is my advice to aimee: an OP shouldn't just be a place to show something you've found, it's got to be the start of a discussion. If you make OPs like that, then people are more likely to respond positively.

There is also the fact that the title is rather misleading, since it's not really an interesting article, and it's quite plain that you wouldn't have thought it interesting yourself if it didn't mention Tom Petty.

To everyone else, if you're not interested in the topic, don't post. Just making posts saying "This isn't an interesting topic" isn't constructive.

 

[LucyDuke]

I dont even know why the hell I boter to post anything here anymore, every freaking time I just get some freaking variant of "shut up nboody cares." dammit.

Don't let the trolls get you down.

 

[Abaddon]

oh come on. didn't have to click this thread. Its not a misleading title.

It is a very misleading title.

"An article with Petty Mentioned" would have been clearer.

 

[Disgustipated]

in before the lock. (too lazy to post TNG picture)

Petty aside, Gainesville? Please.

Any decent sized city is going to have a few entertainers in it. If Tom Petty wasn't from there you would have never heard of it. It's just random chance he was from there, and not some other city.

The city didn't create the musician. A city is just a city. Sure it has a certain culture. But Petty could have been born 50 miles away, and still made the same music. In summary, I don't give a rats ass about Gainesville.

For the record: I feel the same about Liverpool. It's just a city, not some mythical place. Please.

 

[SuperJay]

Aimee can post about things of this nature here if she wants. There's no reason why someone can't post an article of this kind for discussion. The problem with the OP in this thread is not (primarily) the subject matter but the lack of any discussion.

I agree re: the quality of the OP in any thread, but the subject matter itself is also part of the problem, IMO. Typically, multiple threads about the same subject get locked and the poster gets infracted for spamming. Now, I realize that the designated repository for Tom Petty content has itself been locked as spam (so it's not surprising that these posts are now coming out into the rest of the forum), but it seems that the root of the situation remains unresolved.

To everyone else, if you're not interested in the topic, don't post. Just making posts saying "This isn't an interesting topic" isn't constructive.

I apologize for my part in that. It's worth discussing, though - and I think as long as we stay within the rules, we should be allowed to talk to each other about our roles or responsibilities as forum members.

I do skip threads I don't find interesting - take that pony cartoon the kids are into these days. Never opened that thread at all, and have no problem with it existing - but if the same persons created thread after thread after thread about the pony show, that'd cause some understandable frustration.

I dont even know why the hell I boter to post anything here anymore, every freaking time I just get some freaking variant of "shut up nboody cares." dammit.

Aimee, I have no problem with you as a person, but I'd love to see you participate in or start off other discussions that have nothing to do with Tom Petty. I know you're capable of doing so, because you have in the past.