My internet is acting up badly tonight, but if theres not a new save up tomorrow I'll take the last available one even if there is a roll back on turns. Sorry for not acting a bit earlier.
Ok I've taken down Neils save from 850AD. We're in a strongish position running neck and neck with Qin on the power score.
However this equates to just 11 Axemen of an attack force. So I propose teching to CS and Machinery Engineering, spamming cats and Samurai (ok we can start on these guys in 3 turns) and then attacking. On upgrades I think we should promote the General (d'uh) and the 3 CR3 Axes sitting in New Bark town. All axes with shock (or promotable to such) will be left alone but brought along to clear out/defend captured cities. We will need some spears or pikes (not too many) for anti-horse defence.
On tech we're at a sustainable rate atm of about 43% (-11 @50%; +7 @40%) so I propose getting our fiancial cities up and running. This means cottaging up Fuschia, Veridian, Celadon and New Bark town. This of course means more workers so I'll be applying the whip a nice bit (I will also double-whip Sams anywhere with high food count, taking advantage of HR happiness).
Finally while we're secure in the West the East needs it's backlines filled up. I'll be planting settlers on the two blue sites I picked out earlier, which will also be whipped.
Final edit: I'll play tomorrow, so that anyone wanting to make suggestions will have time to do so.
Yeah I've been reading the PB2 reports (well after the fact) over on Realms Beyond and it really opened my eyes on how much synergy there is between the whip and HR especially when insta-whipping an army. It's a tactic I intend to exploit over the next 10 turns.
OK I've the ten turns played, no Samurai yet and power is degraded somewhat vis-a-vis Qin. But overall I think I've played a good set here.
First an autolog:
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------------------------------------------------ Turn 230 (850 AD) [27-Nov-2010 16:53:15] 100% Research: 215 per turn 0% Espionage: 12 per turn 0% Gold: -102 per turn, 1684 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Pewter City The whip was applied in Viridian City Pewter City finishes: Harbor Viridian City finishes: Harbor A Hamlet was built near Celadon City
Turn 231 (860 AD) [27-Nov-2010 16:53:17] Buddhism has spread: Saffron City Vermilion City begins: Buddhist Temple (12 turns) Vermilion City begins: Stable (9 turns) 100% Research: 222 per turn 0% Espionage: 12 per turn 0% Gold: -98 per turn, 1582 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Pallet Town Pallet Town finishes: Worker A Hamlet was built near Fuschia City
Turn 232 (870 AD) [27-Nov-2010 16:57:05] Pallet Town begins: Settler (11 turns) 100% Research: 217 per turn 0% Espionage: 12 per turn 0% Gold: -94 per turn, 1484 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Cerulean City The whip was applied in New Bark Town Tech research finished: Civil Service Vermilion City finishes: Harbor Cerulean City finishes: Market New Bark Town finishes: Library
Other Player Actions: Buddhism has spread: Shanghai (Chinese Empire)
Turn 233 (880 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:09:03] Research begun: Metal Casting (3 Turns) Cerulean City begins: Worker (6 turns) New Bark Town begins: Granary (30 turns) Cerulean City begins: Axeman (6 turns) A Plantation was built near Pallet Town A Farm was built near Celadon City Saffron City begins: Worker (13 turns) Pewter City begins: Market (15 turns) 100% Research: 219 per turn 0% Espionage: 12 per turn 0% Gold: -93 per turn, 1390 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Pewter City The whip was applied in Saffron City Pewter City grows to size 7 Pewter City finishes: Courthouse Cerulean City grows to size 8 Lavender Town grows to size 9 Saffron City finishes: Work Boat
Turn 234 (890 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:14:59] A Fishing Boats was built near Saffron City Lavender Town begins: Worker (6 turns) 100% Research: 223 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 0% Gold: -91 per turn, 1299 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Lavender Town Viridian City finishes: Worker Lavender Town finishes: Harbor New Bark Town's borders expand
Other Player Actions: Attitude Change: Pacal II (Maya) towards Pokemon Master (Kanto), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Turn 235 (900 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:16:44] Diplomacy: Shaka (Zululand) offers to trade Feudalism to Pokemon Master (Kanto) for Civil Service Viridian City begins: Mausoleum of Maussollos (52 turns) A Cottage was built near Fuschia City 100% Research: 230 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 0% Gold: -93 per turn, 1208 in the bank
After End Turn: Tech research finished: Metal Casting Celadon City grows to size 3
Turn 236 (910 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:20:47] Research begun: Machinery (6 Turns) A Farm was built near New Bark Town Pallet Town begins: Axeman (5 turns) 100% Research: 225 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 0% Gold: -94 per turn, 1115 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Pallet Town Pallet Town finishes: Settler Pewter City grows to size 8 A Hamlet was built near Pewter City Viridian City grows to size 7 Cerulean City finishes: Axeman
Turn 237 (920 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:23:36] Cerulean City begins: Forge (12 turns) Pallet Town begins: Forge (15 turns) 100% Research: 0 per turn 0% Espionage: 0 per turn 0% Gold: 12 per turn, 1021 in the bank
After End Turn:
Other Player Actions: Attitude Change: Shaka (Zululand) towards Pokemon Master (Kanto), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Civics Change: Pokemon Master(Kanto) from 'Barbarism' to 'Bureaucracy'
Turn 238 (930 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:25:18] Fuschia City begins: Library (135 turns) Fuschia City begins: Library (135 turns) Fuschia City begins: Library (135 turns) 100% Research: 260 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 0% Gold: -101 per turn, 1033 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Fuschia City Aristotle (Great Scientist) born in Vermilion City Lavender Town finishes: Worker Fuschia City grows to size 3 Fuschia City finishes: Courthouse New Bark Town grows to size 3
Other Player Actions: Civics Change: Alexander(Greece) from 'Bureaucracy' to 'Vassalage' Civics Change: Alexander(Greece) from 'Paganism' to 'Theocracy'
Turn 239 (940 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:27:18] Diplomacy: Qin Shi Huang (China) offers to trade Feudalism to Pokemon Master (Kanto) for Civil Service Lavender Town begins: Forge (12 turns) Player contact made: Washington of America 100% Research: 254 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 0% Gold: -96 per turn, 932 in the bank
After End Turn: The whip was applied in Vermilion City Vermilion City grows to size 6 Vermilion City finishes: Buddhist Temple Saffron City finishes: Worker
Other Player Actions: Civics Change: Shaka(Zululand) from 'Paganism' to 'Organized Religion'
Turn 240 (950 AD) [27-Nov-2010 17:31:30] Diplomacy (War Request): Washington (America) asks Pokemon Master (Kanto) to declare war on Shaka (Zululand); Pokemon Master REFUSES. Saffron City begins: Buddhist Monastery (15 turns) A Farm was built near Cerulean City A Farm was built near Vermilion City A Plantation was built near Tianjin
So my own report next:
Turn 230:
Whip Pewter and Viridian (pre selected builds here, forget which but I agreed)
Turn 231:
Queue Budd temple and mon in Vermilion city for GPro.
Whip Pallet.
Saffron gets a buddhist spread.
Turn 232:
Pallet Worker>Settler
Whip the market in Cerulean. Pick Axe as best choice
Turn 233:
Whip Lib into Granary New Bark town.
Civil Service>Metal Casting (3t) had screenie never took though
Turn 234:
Max Whip* Lavender Harbour into worker.
Turn 235:
Refuse Feud for CS+45g from Shaka (still @ pleased)
Turn 236:
Metal Casting>Machinery
Max whip* Pallet settler into Forge.
Turn 237:
Cerulean Axe>Forge.
Revolt to the big B (wanted to get the settler out first).
Turn 238:
Pacal has maces
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Whip the courthouse in Fuschia into a Library.
Turn 239:
Refuse the same deal as Shaka from Qin:
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Lavendar worker>forge.
GSci in Vermilion. I'm moving him to Pallet, as we're not going for Liberalism are we? (Pacal already has Philo) and a Beurocracy Academy will be worth mucho beakers senors.
Whip the scientists in Vermilion into a Buddhist temple with a Monastery queued.
Meet an annoyed:
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Named the screenie Heus Nautat in an obscure Discworld reference. Look it up.
I immediately give him the following deal:
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My reasoning is that with forges going up everywhere the extra 2 happy will be nice and we're not going to war with him right now.
Turn 240:
Refuse the following:
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Didn't take, but it was a war dec demand from Washy on Shaka.
Saffron Worker>Buddhist Monastery.
OK some pics first: Demographics:
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Foreign relations:
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Trading:
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And finally, Land:
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Now the way I see it is that we'll have to go on a bit of a whip-fest next 2 turnsets to get an anti-Qin army out. Sorry about not whipping military but forgot Samurai have Machinery requirement too . The best thing to do is to whip the cities with the largest food suplusses in them. Get granaries and forges in before the army, then whip away to your hearts content.
The Qin war will have to wait a while me-thinks though, and it may be better to go for Steel and/or rifling before taking him out completely, using the Samurai only for clearing our part of the continent.
On tech after Machinery probably and deffo after Enigneering we should beeline Nationalism and the Taj and push for Drafted rifles after that.
The save:
Finally sorry for the lack of roleplay in the report busy at the moment (trying to get my Irish up to scratch for post-grad degree application).
Oh yeah what I meant with the * was that I whipped on the last turn for maximum overflow of 1 pop (44 and 41 hammers respectively), sorry for not putting that in. It's a nice little trick I like to do from time to time.
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. The best thing to do is to whip the cities with the largest food suplusses in them. Get granaries and forges in before the army, then whip away to your hearts content.
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