ChrTh
Happy Yule!
First disclaimer: Yes, I'm a practicing Catholic, but you'll never see me at a religious rally or with a Jesus fish on my car. I believe, but I'm not rabid. So I'm not trying to force anyone else to reach this conclusion (heck, I'm not sure if I have), I'm just curious if you noticed the same thing.
Listening to the song 100 Years by Five for Fighting, I come across the 'pronoun problem', in other words, when the singer says "you", who is he talking about?
First the lyrics, than the discussion.
Ok, first off, I think we can say that any "I" or "me" refers to the singer.
Now, there seems to be indications that it's a love song. However,
First, 'she' is never referred to as you. Second, he's a 'they' before the kid comes -- so the woman (same one? different one?) is not the target of the 'you' (although in this case it could be an audience 'you').
Finally
Too. In addition to. Who?
Ok, so it's not likely a love song, does it make it a religious song?
There's a couple reasons I might think so. Starting from both ends:
This appears twice, at 15 and 99. If its a future woman (we're assuming women because there's 'a kid on the way'--there's always room for alternative lifestyle translations, but we'll keep it simple for now), it makes sense at 15, but not at 99. Unless he imagines rejoining her in some sort of afterlife?
Then, of course, there's this line:
15 there's still time for you
Time to buy, Time to lose yourself
Within a morning star
Lose yourself within a morning star? What's the popular definition of Lucifer again? Right. Morning star. So there's a possible devil reference here. Also think about it on the opposition angle: still time for you/time to lose yourself within a morning star. HOWEVER,
at the same time, astronomically, the morning star is Venus. Which could be love, so it could be innocuous instead of diabolical, i.e. lose yourself in love. However, is that an opposition to the 'you' there's still time for?
The one verse that's driving me nuts, and could be the key to the whole thing is:
First we have a mention of Mars, which ties in nicely to a Venus interpretation of morning star. However, 'making our way back' from it? Mars represents conflict, war, (notice they're on fire). The best angle I've come up with for this verse is they're having make-up sex (after a huge fight).
So where does this leave me? Still confused. Hence the post.
Thoughts?
Listening to the song 100 Years by Five for Fighting, I come across the 'pronoun problem', in other words, when the singer says "you", who is he talking about?
First the lyrics, than the discussion.
Five For Fighting said:
Ok, first off, I think we can say that any "I" or "me" refers to the singer.
Now, there seems to be indications that it's a love song. However,
and
First, 'she' is never referred to as you. Second, he's a 'they' before the kid comes -- so the woman (same one? different one?) is not the target of the 'you' (although in this case it could be an audience 'you').
Finally
Too. In addition to. Who?
Ok, so it's not likely a love song, does it make it a religious song?
There's a couple reasons I might think so. Starting from both ends:
This appears twice, at 15 and 99. If its a future woman (we're assuming women because there's 'a kid on the way'--there's always room for alternative lifestyle translations, but we'll keep it simple for now), it makes sense at 15, but not at 99. Unless he imagines rejoining her in some sort of afterlife?
Then, of course, there's this line:
15 there's still time for you
Time to buy, Time to lose yourself
Within a morning star
Lose yourself within a morning star? What's the popular definition of Lucifer again? Right. Morning star. So there's a possible devil reference here. Also think about it on the opposition angle: still time for you/time to lose yourself within a morning star. HOWEVER,
at the same time, astronomically, the morning star is Venus. Which could be love, so it could be innocuous instead of diabolical, i.e. lose yourself in love. However, is that an opposition to the 'you' there's still time for?
The one verse that's driving me nuts, and could be the key to the whole thing is:
First we have a mention of Mars, which ties in nicely to a Venus interpretation of morning star. However, 'making our way back' from it? Mars represents conflict, war, (notice they're on fire). The best angle I've come up with for this verse is they're having make-up sex (after a huge fight).
So where does this leave me? Still confused. Hence the post.
Thoughts?
