Is "CIV III COMPLETE" for Noobs?

[Barney Fife]

Hi,

Total virgin noob here.
I was gonna bust my Civilization cherry on "Civ III Complete" when it comes out next week but I first had a couple of questions...

Do you know if this version will have a concise game guide shipping with it?
This game looks like it would be next to impossible to comprehend all it's nuances without one.

Will there be noob-friendly tutorials to play through?

I tried to find the answers on their game site but alas, none. Why, they didn't even have a contact email I could find.

I'm thinking this is THE strategy game I want to get into - but it looks like a pretty steep learning curve before the fun starts.

Thanks

 

[Alone]

Welcome to CIV FANATICA !!!

I think that evrething will be included to this "Civ complete" (book with explanations - tutorial also) ... So if you not in a posses of any Civ III Game, buy it! There is also disscount version of any Civ games, but if you like new stuff, go ahead!

And enjoy your game! You will, I know if you like strategy, history and geography!

 

[Padma]

Since the game should be Civ3 + PTW + Conquests, it should at least come with the built-in tutorials for Conquests.

It should also include a strategy guide, on the CD if not on paper.

The best guide I have ever found for Civ3, though, is this site.

 

[derenthal]

The forums here are a great source of info. The game is deep, but the learning curve is not terribly steep if you start out playing on the easier difficulty settings.

C3 Complete is going to find its way to a few people in my family this christmas, I'm happy they're packaging the whole game this way.

 

[BasketCase]

What they need is 1 more pach for PTW to fix the really bad AI problems (like poor amphibious invasion skillz) without screwing up the stuff that got screwed up in Conquests.

 

[CivCube]

If you can find them, we suggest buying the original Civ 3 and the Conquests expansion. You will actually save more money!

This game is deep, but not in the way that you would expect. The interface is pretty much the only thing to get used to. After that, you'll spend sleepless nights chasing Genghis Khan around the world.

 

[Paradigne]

After that, you'll spend sleepless nights chasing Genghis Khan around the world.

I HATE that. I was tossing and turning all night last night trying to figure out how to win my war....

 

[viper275]

Civ III complete is just plain Civilization III and Conquests. Conquests is about $30, but regular Civilization III is going for around $10 most of the time. So if Civ III Complete is $30 then it's worth it, if it's more than $40 try to find Conquests and regular or "vanilla" Civilization III.

You'll like the game. There is a tutorial mode, although I preferred just playing the game. Chieftain a few times, once you know how to play try Warlord, then improve your game a while there and keep moving up. If you have any questions about the game, post them.

 

[Warspite2]

CIV3 is the best title in the series to ever come out. Go ahead and get the complete version and get into the game, you will have everything. If you have never played a CIV game yet, man you are in for one hell of a ride. Be ready to stay up all night addicted as hell, but you sure will have fun

Hi,

Total virgin noob here.
I was gonna bust my Civilization cherry on "Civ III Complete" when it comes out next week but I first had a couple of questions...

Do you know if this version will have a concise game guide shipping with it?
This game looks like it would be next to impossible to comprehend all it's nuances without one.

Will there be noob-friendly tutorials to play through?

I tried to find the answers on their game site but alas, none. Why, they didn't even have a contact email I could find.

I'm thinking this is THE strategy game I want to get into - but it looks like a pretty steep learning curve before the fun starts.

Thanks

 

[homeyg]

Time out! I'm not exactly sure what type of manual or strategy guide will come in the box, but whatever it is, read it thoroughly. I strongly recommend not playing the tutorial first or you will be totally lost without a clue of what you're doing. The tutorial does not do a good job of teaching you the game. I can't even count the number of times I've read the whole manual and I highly recommend you read it also (when you get the game, of course). Btw, you will not fully understand the game for about a year, so don't get frustrated. It's good that you found this site when you did, because when I bought the game 3 years ago, I was in the dark for about 2 of those years not getting any better until I found this site.

 

[Barney Fife]

Btw, you will not fully understand the game for about a year, so don't get frustrated. It's good that you found this site when you did, because when I bought the game 3 years ago, I was in the dark for about 2 of those years not getting any better until I found this site.

3 years!?
Dang.
Sounds too very difficult.
What's the IQ requirement...?
I'm good at checkers, some chess and AOE.
Perhaps I'm in over my head.

 

[Alone]

3 years!?
Dang.
Sounds too very difficult.
What's the IQ requirement...?
I'm good at checkers, some chess and AOE.
Perhaps I'm in over my head.

Hey, don't worry it's not THAT hard.

Try an' see. Why do you think this site has so many members! (and they are not all that intelegent, belive me). This game ROCKS! No matter on age or IQ. It depend also how good you want to be in this game. Start with Easy level, chieftain. Everithing that is good in life is complicated and/or hard, belive me.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

Btw, you will not fully understand the game for about a year, so don't get frustrated.

Don't scare him like that. You can understand everything in a matter of weeks. I started civ3 at deity and won after 6 games.

All it takes is having played more strat games before and a few nights of reading everything on this site.
interest and understanding of strategy in general is the most important. (I have my experience from 4 years of semi competetive starcraft)

 

[earthguido]

Do not worry, it will not take you a year. However, it is very very unlikely that you can beat deity in a few games, it would take some previous skills.

If you feel bored to play it (you won't) just let it go a couple of days ... you'll start feeling you need to go back to civ3...

 

[homeyg]

Don't scare him like that.

Why not? That's how long it took me. I'm being very serious. If you are a complete newbie to any strategy game like CivIII, it will take many months to fully understand the game. I'm not trying to be a grouch or anything, I'm just stating my experiences.

Btw, do not be fooled, AoE is nothing, and I mean nothing like CivIII. One major difference I can pick out easily is the amount of time to play a game. In AoE you may have a 30 minute game. That's great but you don't have too much time to plan and strategize. CivIII, on the other hand, is turn based giving you all the time in the world to plan your moves. Games may last hundreds of hours (for one game!). You will not even notice the time fly by until you look at that clock and it is 3 in the morning. I'm giving you a heads up so you have time to do some schedule clearing.

And also, newbies might fear the game because it looks so complicated, but once you learn how to properly play the game, it will be very easy to fire up a game on Emperor and know you're going to win from the start.

 

[Tomoyo]

It took me 2 years to get to Warlord level.. then 2 weeks to get to Deity after that. Just goes to show how much this site helped me.

 

[homeyg]

I'm still stuck at Emperor with a few wins but I don't think I could ever beat Diety. I've been at this site for 9 months now.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

Btw, do not be fooled, AoE is nothing, and I mean nothing like CivIII. One major difference I can pick out easily is the amount of time to play a game. In AoE you may have a 30 minute game. That's great but you don't have too much time to plan and strategize.

I haven't played AoE (except for a very few games many years ago). However, i heard it comes close to starcraft in competetive playability and strategic depth.
Starcraft doesn't look like civ in any way either, but i played it 4 years, every day. I visited multiple forums, i read strategy guides, i wrote them and discussed them. endlessly.
Playing a strategy game so extensively just teaches you strategy. This experience helps you beat any strategy game, even if looks to be so different.

Starcraft games also are between 10 and 60 minutes. Also will i immeadiately admit they are in quite a large part decided by mouse speed (from my experience, i player can beat players who are twice as fast by being more efficient in what you do, but 3 or more times just isn't possible. (some pro players have well over 300 commands per minute))
Starcraft is a pretty extraordinary game if you look at how competetive it is played (in korea espescially). I quit playing about a year ago, but it still does weird things to my mind (like making me post this)

from other starcraft players, i heard AOE is the only game that can come a little close to SC. (we all hated the westwood series)

So i don't think AOE is nothing, and i do think it can teach you strategy. You must play it seriously though in order to learn from it.

 

[Barney Fife]

I don't get it.
If this game is not immensely difficult, why would one need to come here and study strategy, etc. for months just to excel?
Does the game manual not teach one how to play?
I mean, the game should stand alone with just the manual to guide you, yes?
signed,
Feeling overwhelmed and apprehensive.

 

[homeyg]

Don't feel overwhelmed. It is a difficult game but you will do fine if you just read the manual a few times while experimenting with the game. Watch out because some of the information in the original manual is different or wrong compared to the actual game if you install one of the expansion packs.