Is the effect of the Chateau known yet?

[boghog]

Defensive aspect : The first built like angers were insanely defense-oriented but the lattest -like chambord) are pretty much just beautifull and large mansions. On the other hand they were all built to replace an old fort from the medieval age.

Why would a stately country manor be built on an archeological dig site anyway?

It kind of makes sense if you accept that even the Renaissance and Baroque chateaux were often built on ancient foundations.

 

[glenjen75]

Not based on anything solid that we've seen so far, I hope the Chateaux are restricted to Wine resources (or maybe provide one?) and generate additional culture, gold, and tourism compared to Plantations.

 

[AriochIV]

We don't know what tech unlocks the Chateau, but there are quite a lot of abilities on the tech tree that are unaccounted for. I count six.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

I hope its not just +2 Culture. That's kind of bland and dull, and means sacrificing a lot of food/production/gold now, for - through SPs - more later. For starters, I'm pretty sure it will provide at least some tourism.

A Hotel will cause cultural Terrain improvements to produce Tourism (so if it produces Culture, it produces Tourism)

 

[kingchris20]

We don't know what tech unlocks the Chateau, but there are quite a lot of abilities on the tech tree that are unaccounted for. I count six.

And you'd only see the Chateau ability if you were playing as France, right? and I don't remember any of the previews being played as France

 

[Calouste]

And you'd only see the Chateau ability if you were playing as France, right? and I don't remember any of the previews being played as France

You will only see the UI ability itself in the tech tree if you play with that civ, but any additional bonuses to that UI show up for everyone in the tech tree, because you can conquer land that has another civ's UI on it.

 

[chrisjwmartin]

Well, technically no. Nobody likes semantics, but it's more palace than castle. Grander, I guess.

That's the facile and misleading translation most people are aware of. It's really somewhat subtler than that. They share a root in implying fortification, but that was in the origin - most chateaux are not really fortified. It can imply elements of castle, palace, and stately home.

...

- Château - +2 culture and +2 gold; extra culture and gold with flight; cannot be built adjacent to each other; must be built next to a luxurious resource; provides a defensive bonus; only the French may build it

... I delight to say that I told you so. "Facile and misleading" indeed! Harrumph!

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I wonder what tech unlocks the chateaux.

 

[Securion]

Sound very powerful to me. One or two of those and you have 2-4 extra defensive culture in that city. Well if you have plantation resources of course...
And tourism later on.
Nice.
I think im going to like France after all.

 

[Tinker]

That's a bit of a weird effect though - they're right, a chateau in French implies more of a stately mansion than a defensive structure, and that is also what they look like in-game. Maybe you can hole up with your wine cellar

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Really, what good is a mansion if you can't fend off the odd peasant revolt?

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Sound very powerful to me. One or two of those and you have 2-4 extra defensive culture in that city. Well if you have plantation resources of course...
And tourism later on.
Nice.
I think im going to like France after all.

It doesn't say plantation, it says luxury.. so it could be

A beach chateau overlooking whaling, pearl fishing or crab fishing areas

A jeweler's chateau nearby gold, silver, or gem mines

A sculptor's chateau with a nearby marble quarry

..... etc.

A hunting chateau for getting good furs, or hunting big game elephants, or renowned as a source of truffles.


(interesting that it seems you have to be adjacent, ie you can't build on top of the resource like you can with moai)

 

[mitsho]

The defensive bonus comes from the "pride" the French soldiers feel when they need to defend the valley of the loire and its cultural works Or something like that. It's more gameplay, but now there are quite a few UI's that provide combat promotions...

 

[AlazkanAssassin]

(interesting that it seems you have to be adjacent, ie you can't build on top of the resource like you can with moai)

You wouldn't WANT to build it ON aluxury. If you did then you wouldn't be able to build any more of them next to that luxury.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

You wouldn't WANT to build it ON aluxury. If you did then you wouldn't be able to build any more of them next to that luxury.

Well the one adjacent spot might be next to another chateau spot, but I agree you wouldn't want to.

Basically It means France gets
~6 (9 with flight) culture
and
~6 (12 with flight) gold

From each luxury resource... perhaps drop the gold to 0 (6 with flight) to account for the trade post you couldn't have.

 

[BSPollux]

Maybe +1 culture and in addition to that +1 gold or +1 food, to act like a 'noble' farm or plantation.

 

[Ll1442]

"France's Chateau gives +2 culture and +2 gold, with additional culture (+1) and gold(+2) after researching Flight. Confers a 50% defense bonus. Must be built next to a luxury resource. Cannot be built adjacent to another Chateau."

From:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=499764

 

[chrisjwmartin]

That's a bit of a weird effect though - they're right, a chateau in French implies more of a stately mansion than a defensive structure, and that is also what they look like in-game. Maybe you can hole up with your wine cellar

Chateau implies stately mansion instead of defensive structure in French, like mouse implies computer control device instead of small mammal in English. You're making the mistake of assuming that the years from 1900 on are the only period in history that has ever existed, and that everything has always been as it is now.

 

[Kintara]

It doesn't say plantation, it says luxury.. so it could be

A beach chateau overlooking whaling, pearl fishing or crab fishing areas

A jeweler's chateau nearby gold, silver, or gem mines

A sculptor's chateau with a nearby marble quarry

..... etc.

A hunting chateau for getting good furs, or hunting big game elephants, or renowned as a source of truffles.


(interesting that it seems you have to be adjacent, ie you can't build on top of the resource like you can with moai)

I can't wait to get my salt chateau. Actually that extra food from Salt would probably be much appreciated if you're really trying to spam the chateau.

 

[Petiscator]

The Chateau makes the Brazilwood Camp look very, very, very weak. Seriously, very weak. Look at this:

BWC: +2 , +2 at Acoustics, available at Machinery.

Chateau: +2 , +2 , +1 / +2 at Flight, +50% defense.

Really?