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Is this the end of liberalism?
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The campus police at the University of Missouri sent out a campus-wide email this morning asking “individuals who witness of hateful and/or hurtful speech or actions” to immediately report the incident to them.
The email did not define what constitutes “hurtful” speech but did say if anyone experiences or hears it they are immediately get in touch with cops and also provide “a detailed description of the individual(s) involved” along with the “license plate and vehicle descriptions…” Also, “If possible and if it can be done safely, take a photo of the individual(s) with your cell phone.”
The email says if it is an emergency situation of “hurtful” speech not to call campus police but to dial 911.
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Oh this is only going to get so much worse... SJW lunatics have taken over the university and are already doubling down on crazy.
The email did not define what constitutes “hurtful” speech but did say if anyone experiences or hears it they are immediately get in touch with cops and also provide “a detailed description of the individual(s) involved” along with the “license plate and vehicle descriptions…” Also, “If possible and if it can be done safely, take a photo of the individual(s) with your cell phone.”
The email says if it is an emergency situation of “hurtful” speech not to call campus police but to dial 911.
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Oh this is only going to get so much worse... SJW lunatics have taken over the university and are already doubling down on crazy.
Does Twitter think we are Rolling Stone?
Edit: I was responding to the post above this one which was a short post referencing twitter. That post has now been edited to be cleared of that content, so that is why my post seems out of the blue.
Edit: I was responding to the post above this one which was a short post referencing twitter. That post has now been edited to be cleared of that content, so that is why my post seems out of the blue.
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Be sure to monitor your neighbors closely for Wrongthink so that they can be promptly taken to the nearest reeducation center. And remember:
War is peace
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Ignorance is strength
So, let me get this straight. Gun culture is supposedly causing rampant campus shootings, rape culture is supposedly causing women to be raped at rates heretofore unheard of, but somehow campus police are supposed to have time to investigate every reported case of ambiguous "hurtful speech"? Are the inmates running the asylum, what is going on over there?
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I know really...
People have been pointing out that the statistics don't support the bogus claims for a long time, but either way the campuses have made it clear what their priorities are - thought crime.
I just want to repeat: "The email says if it is an emergency situation of “hurtful” speech not to call campus police but to dial 911."
These people are completely wacked!
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How much more cogent would the title of thread be if it were "Peak Liberalism?"
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"Peak" would imply not locked in a self-destructive death spiral.
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That's probably a good sign.
Once upon a time, there was liberalism and they all lived happily ever after. The end.
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Anyone who actually does that deserves the citation for making a false 911 call that they will hopefully get.
So if a journalist fears being assaulted by students hurling hurtful insults at him, he should not call 911?
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But, wouldn't that be racist? and only further prove that white supremacy is institutionalized in the police force? or that there is a sexist patriarchal culture among police?
- depending on the situation.
Given the way the police shoot out of false claims of fearing for their safety, perhaps we should bubble wrap the cops with yellow tape.
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I think it would be far more equitable to redistribute the bubble wrap to minority and victimized groups at Yale to help make their "safe spaces" even safer.
Such Yale alums such as Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, and George W. Bush get the bubble wrap?
Actually it says if there is an emergency (i.e. generally, not an emergency specifically about "hurtful speech") to call 911. Otherwise it says to call the campus police regular line.
BUT that doesn't really matter as this is an obviously stupid thing for the police to say either way. It probably will blow some people's minds but the liberal commies over at the ACLU are also in agreement that the Police probably shouldn't do that.
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Probably out of fear of being shot.
Sure some regulations are too strict, but we know that unbridled capitalism will exploit workers every way it can in the pursuit of profit. Asian sweatshops are one example. Enron is another of a different sort.
I am not advocating socialism, just the necessary constraint of capitalism. I think a case can be made that communalism, capitalism, slavery and totalitarianism are natural states for human social groups. Social progress has made some of those less palatable to modern society.
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That's not what the email says. The email specifically outlines the procedures if you encounter hateful, or hurtful speech or actions and calling 911 if deemed an emergency is one of the sub-categories in their list of procedures. Granted, any stable person wouldn't consider hurtful speech an emergency, but they also wouldn't consider it a reason to call the police at all, but these people clearly aren't stable and apparently you can call the cops now because someone hurt your feelings.
Here's a direct quote from the email:
From: MU POLICE
Date: November 10, 2015 at 9:52:16 AM CST
To: MU POLICE
Subject: Reporting Hateful and/or Hurtful Speech
To continue to ensure that the University of Missouri campus remains safe, the MU Police Department (MUPD) is asking individuals who witness incidents of hateful and/or hurtful speech or actions to:
Call the police immediately at 573-882-7201. (If you are in an emergency situation, dial 911.)
Give the communications operator a summary of the incident, including location.
Provide a detailed description of the individual(s) involved.
Provide a license plate and vehicle descriptions (if appropriate).
If possible and if it can be done safely, take a photo of the individual(s) with your cell phone.
Delays, including posting information to social media, can often reduce the chances of identifying the responsible parties. While cases of hateful and hurtful speech are not crimes, if the individual(s) identified are students, MU’s Office of Student Conduct can take disciplinary action.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lice-call-us-about-harmful-or-hurtful-speech/
"Wow. Note the pattern, so familiar now — things start with extremely offensive speech that might actually be punishable (e.g., racial epithets addressed in person to a Missouri student, which apparently is part of what triggered the protests). Add other speech that seems similar but is potentially much broader, and vaguely defined, such as “hateful” speech. Then add other speech that’s even broader, such as “hurtful” speech. Now you’ve covered a vast range of speech on controversial topics."
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This is what all of this reminds me of:
Link to video.
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Update: Another University of Missouri Professor forced to resign
As members of the Missouri Legislative Black Caucus met with student activists at a closed meeting Monday morning, an anonymous caller phoned in a threat to MU’s Oldham Black Culture Center.
A white professor, however, challenged his students to come to class, to prevent the “bullies” from winning:
“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dale Brigham wrote in an e-mail to his Nutritional Science 1034 class.
“I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class.
“If you give into bullies, they win. The only way bullies are defeated is by standing up to them. If we cancel the exam, they win; if we go through with it, they lose.
“I know which side I am on,” Brigham said in the e-mail.
“You make your own choice.”
Brigham’s message drew anger from several of his students.
My Teacher had the nerve to email me, "If we cancel class, then we let the bullies win." Like this is a game or something.
— JJ not Jay-Jay (@nugget2times) November 11, 2015
If you are black and on campus GO HOME there is a racist meeting in speaker circle they are threatening us saying dont come tmmrw
— Hailey (@mariehaileyy) November 11, 2015
I am terrified ! We just literally walked passed a racist cult in speakers circle i dont feel safe at Mizzou anymore im ready to go
— Hailey (@mariehaileyy) November 11, 2015
Brigham confirmed to The Washington Post that he had sent the e-mail.
As for being the headline of a Washington Post story the night before, Dr. Brigham responsed by at 9:43 Wednesday, saying:
The exam in cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of point. No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-students-to-defeat-bullies-and-attend-class/
Also a professor has been placed on administrative leave:
"Effective Nov. 11, 2015, Janna Basler has been placed on administrative leave and relieved of her duties as Director of Greek Life while we conduct an investigation regarding her recent actions..."
"Basler was among students, faculty and staff who were trying to keep reporters away from protesters with the group Concerned Student 1950."
Some say the events that led up to the protests could be a hoax:
There's even some debate that the entire incident that began this protest could be fabricated. I'm not saying if it is, or isn't, but the truth is the original allegation of a "poop swastika" was never confirmed and the alleged group of students in a pick-up truck who are accused of making a racial slur haven't been identified.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...he-entire-mizzou-protest-based-on-lies-111115
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/10/was-the-poop-swastika-incident-at-mizzou-a-giant-hoax/
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The police report is unable to confirm that the alleged incidents occurred and eyewitnesses names are redacted from the report. The police report can be found here:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/here-is-the-police-report-from-the-mizzou-poop-swastika-incident/
"The so-called poop swastika has been the subject of intense speculation in recent days. University police and other school officials and staffers have declined to provide any information on who observed the scrawling, whether police saw it and whether it was photographed."
"The police department had also declined The Daily Caller’s repeated requests for more information. But TheDC was able to obtain an incident report through a Freedom of Information Act request filed with the school’s custodian of records.
It shows that a university police officer responded to a call at 2:12 a.m. from members of the residential services staff. The staffers’ names and identifying information is redacted. A third person who's name is redacted is listed as a victim on the report."
As members of the Missouri Legislative Black Caucus met with student activists at a closed meeting Monday morning, an anonymous caller phoned in a threat to MU’s Oldham Black Culture Center.
A white professor, however, challenged his students to come to class, to prevent the “bullies” from winning:
“If you don’t feel safe coming to class, then don’t come to class,” Dale Brigham wrote in an e-mail to his Nutritional Science 1034 class.
“I will be there, and there will be an exam administered in our class.
“If you give into bullies, they win. The only way bullies are defeated is by standing up to them. If we cancel the exam, they win; if we go through with it, they lose.
“I know which side I am on,” Brigham said in the e-mail.
“You make your own choice.”
Brigham’s message drew anger from several of his students.
My Teacher had the nerve to email me, "If we cancel class, then we let the bullies win." Like this is a game or something.
— JJ not Jay-Jay (@nugget2times) November 11, 2015
If you are black and on campus GO HOME there is a racist meeting in speaker circle they are threatening us saying dont come tmmrw
— Hailey (@mariehaileyy) November 11, 2015
I am terrified ! We just literally walked passed a racist cult in speakers circle i dont feel safe at Mizzou anymore im ready to go
— Hailey (@mariehaileyy) November 11, 2015
Brigham confirmed to The Washington Post that he had sent the e-mail.
As for being the headline of a Washington Post story the night before, Dr. Brigham responsed by at 9:43 Wednesday, saying:
The exam in cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of point. No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-students-to-defeat-bullies-and-attend-class/
Also a professor has been placed on administrative leave:
"Effective Nov. 11, 2015, Janna Basler has been placed on administrative leave and relieved of her duties as Director of Greek Life while we conduct an investigation regarding her recent actions..."
"Basler was among students, faculty and staff who were trying to keep reporters away from protesters with the group Concerned Student 1950."
Some say the events that led up to the protests could be a hoax:
There's even some debate that the entire incident that began this protest could be fabricated. I'm not saying if it is, or isn't, but the truth is the original allegation of a "poop swastika" was never confirmed and the alleged group of students in a pick-up truck who are accused of making a racial slur haven't been identified.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...he-entire-mizzou-protest-based-on-lies-111115
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/10/was-the-poop-swastika-incident-at-mizzou-a-giant-hoax/
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The police report is unable to confirm that the alleged incidents occurred and eyewitnesses names are redacted from the report. The police report can be found here:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/here-is-the-police-report-from-the-mizzou-poop-swastika-incident/
"The so-called poop swastika has been the subject of intense speculation in recent days. University police and other school officials and staffers have declined to provide any information on who observed the scrawling, whether police saw it and whether it was photographed."
"The police department had also declined The Daily Caller’s repeated requests for more information. But TheDC was able to obtain an incident report through a Freedom of Information Act request filed with the school’s custodian of records.
It shows that a university police officer responded to a call at 2:12 a.m. from members of the residential services staff. The staffers’ names and identifying information is redacted. A third person who's name is redacted is listed as a victim on the report."
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