Is this the end of liberalism?

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That's not what the email says. The email specifically outlines the procedures if you encounter hateful, or hurtful speech or actions and calling 911 if deemed an emergency is one of the sub-categories in their list of procedures.

It says call the regular number for hurtful speech and then has as an aside to call 911 for an emergency. I don't read that as a "hurtful speech" emergency I read that as a real emergency. '

You made a big deal out of it so I thought it was worth a correction but it probably is not as this whole thing is so stupid anyway.
 
It says call the regular number for hurtful speech and then has as an aside to call 911 for an emergency. I don't read that as a "hurtful speech" emergency I read that as a real emergency. '

Call 911 is under the same sub-category that's telling people what to do if they "witness incidents of hateful and/or hurtful speech or actions."

I understand what you're saying, but the way it is worded is at bare minimal ambiguous. Any sane person would assume you don't call 911 for "hurtful speech," but then again they would also not call the police at all over hurtful speech, but apparently that's OK to do now, so who knows - These people aren't sane.

Down is up and up is down. How far down the rabbit hole is this whole ordeal going to go?
 
By these people I assume you mean the University of Missouri Police.

No, I mean the students who would be the one's calling the police because someone hurt their feelings.

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Also here's a video of the administrator who was put on leave today because she yelled into the crowd for "muscle" to forcefully remove journalists. Students also begin yelling for the journalists to leave and start shoving them.


Link to video.

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Mizzou Demonstrators Segregate White Allies to Form "Black Only Healing Space."

Student protesters at the University of Missouri asked white supporters to leave Wednesday night in order to create a “black only healing space.” Steve Schmidt, an activist who was at the protest, tweeted that Concerned Student 1950 group were “asking white allies to leave.”

#ConceredStudent1950 is dividing into seven groups, They're asking white allies to leave #ConcernedStudent1950 https://twitter.com/_SteveSchmidt_/status/664602953123262464/photo/1
— Steve Schmidt (@_SteveSchmidt_) November 12, 2015

Prominent Black Lives Matter activist Johnetta Elzie seemingly confirmed those with Caucasian skin were asked to leave the area, tweeting that the group had created a “black only healing space for the students to share, decompress, be vulnerable & real.”

Black only healing space for the students to share, decompress, be vulnerable & real. #ConcernedStudent1950 https://twitter.com/Nettaaaaaaaa/status/664603626891964416/photo/1
— Johnetta Elzie (@Nettaaaaaaaa) November 12, 2015

KOMU-TV reporter Jared Koller tweeted that white individuals were in another group upstairs. 6 groups are led by original #ConcernedStudent1950 leaders with white participants in another group upstairs @mutv23 https://twitter.com/J_Koll/status/664609283472945153/photo/1
— Jared Koller (@J_Koll) November 12, 2015

Mark Kim, another reporter for KOMU who was at the scene, told TheBlaze that he spoke with some people around the area and confirmed white individuals had formed a separate group upstairs.

“White allies are upstairs in their own breakout group,” he said in a tweet.

The news comes after the Concerned Student 1950 group had blasted the “white media” earlier this week for not “respecting black spaces.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...hite-allies-to-form-black-only-healing-space/

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Mizzou protesters ban "white media" to create a "safe space" for black protesters.

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Earlier in the day, the group of protesters clashed with reporters who were simply trying to cover the demonstrations after the resignation of the Mizzou president. Students formed a human chain around the area to create a “safe space” where the media wasn't allowed to enter and began pushing reporters. “Hey hey, ho ho, reporters have got to go,” many chanted.
 
Segregating safe spaces by race is a good start, but what if people are offended while peeing or drinking water? I think we should have separate bathrooms and water fountains too, just in case.
 
This is too bizarre to me to understand. I think this may be reason why normal students/proffesors do not speak up.
 
Has this thread become a safe space for bigots and those who fear 'cultural Marxism'?
 
Well they were left wing. Facts are facts. Nazi is an acronym for National Socialist after all and people during that time certainly considered them left wing according to historical accounts.
Of course except the left wing people in the Communist party, who were having regular street fights with the SA in the thirties. And except for the left wing people in the Social Democratic Party who were the only party to vote against the Enabling Act that handed unlimited power to Hitler in the first place. And all the communists, socialists and social democrats who were incarcerated in concentration camps.

Apparently also the entire Soviet Union, considering Nazi rhetoric against them and their attempt to create the image of an international Jewish conspiracy that was allied with/controlling the world revolution, and their generally more belligerent attitude towards Russia compared to Britain and the US who they preferred to keep friendly relations with?

Now look at the people who enabled Hitlers rise to power, either by passivity or outright support. Industrialists, monarchists, revanchists, the Catholic Center party (contrast the Social Democrats here). Hard to argue that those are not conservative.

So we have a political party that systematically imprisoned leftists, antagonized leftist ideology and states publically and relied on conservatives on their rise to power. But they have socialist in their name which counts for more I guess. Especially if you don't know anything else about them apparently.

These kinds of tyrannical governments are allowed to emerge because of big government. Liberals like big government. Conservatives do not.
That's not only a very close minded understanding of the difference between liberalism and conservatism (never mind that you are erroneously equating those terms to the left and right respectively), it's also a very modern one. If you base your claims about political science on post-Reagan Republican campaign slogans, you should not be surprised if people who take the subject seriously roll their eyes at you.

Not to mention that it's really questionable if you can just go ahead and equate liberal ideas about "big" government and totalitarianism, but nuance has already gone out the window five paragraphs ago so who cares.

Really, what you're doing here is projecting. You're essentially saying "They were bad so they must have been right wing." When there really isn't any evidence to back that up.
No, I'm not saying that. You can really only come to that conclusion if you think there are two political ideologies and one is good and one is bad. That is the position you've taken, and the actual point I was disagreeing with.
 
Really, what you're doing here is projecting. You're essentially saying "They were bad so they must have been right wing." When there really isn't any evidence to back that up.
Wow, talk about irony...
 
Of course except the left wing people in the Communist party, who were having regular street fights with the SA in the thirties.

Apparently also the entire Soviet Union, considering Nazi rhetoric against them...

They're different power blocks. I'm not saying Nazis were Communists, I'm saying they were both left wing ideologies and in historical records from they time that was the consensus. Just because monarchies fought other monarchies doesn't mean they both couldn't be monarchies. Your reasoning isn't sound here.

Now look at the people who enabled Hitlers rise to power, either by passivity or outright support. Industrialists, monarchists, revanchists, the Catholic Center party (contrast the Social Democrats here). Hard to argue that those are not conservative.

Most of these are groups that Hitler infiltrated and oppressed, especially the Catholic Church and Catholic institutions - it's quite well documented. Also keep in mind at the time a religious institution would not have been considered "right wing." Also monarchists aren't "right wing" or "left wing" and neither are industrialists. Revanchists, you may have a point there, but I don't know enough about them. However, once again it's not who supported Hitler that determines if the Nazis were left or right. It's their policies.

So we have a political party that systematically imprisoned leftists, antagonized leftist ideology...

They imprisoned any political opposition left and right. You're looking at the situation with blinders on.

Not to mention that it's really questionable if you can just go ahead and equate liberal ideas about "big" government and totalitarianism

I'm not equating big government with totalitarianism. That's how you're interpreting it. I am simply saying that big government and totalitarianism originate from the same end of the political spectrum and by modern Conservative standards you cannot have a totalitarian government.

You can really only come to that conclusion if you think there are two political ideologies and one is good and one is bad. That is the position you've taken, and the actual point I was disagreeing with.

No, I have explained my reasoning for why I said the Nazis were left wing. If I didn't we wouldn't be having a conversation right now. This is entirely your assumption and really does nothing except reinforce your own biases. In order to believe what you believe you have to ignore some blatantly obvious facts about the Nazi regime. The biggest being that they named themselves "The National Socialist German Worker's Party" and published a 25 point socialist manifesto.

Nazi is an acronym for "National Socialist." Socialists are on the left of the political spectrum and that is why historical records from the time refer to the Nazis as being left wing. The truth of the matter is if you compare the actions and policies of the Nazis to that of the Soviet Union at the time what they did respectively is almost identical. It wasn't until recent history that the public began equating Nazi with "right wing" referencing racism and genocide, but selectively ignore that the Communists also committed genocide as well, but they are still considered "left wing" and this is often completely ignored. Therefore, this kind of behaviour is neither "left," nor "right."


Here's some policies from "The National Socialist German Worker's Party's" Manifesto, that would be unequivalently considered lefitist policies:

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

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The entire 25 point document can be viewed here:
Spoiler :
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child labour, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:

a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race.

b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language.

c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

- See more at: http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/nazi-party-25-points-1920/#sthash.PerFbnmI.dpuf

As you can see their policies are quite Socialist, that's why they named themselves "The National Socialist German Worker's Party" after all.




This is an interesting topic, however if we are going to continue to discuss it we should probably make a new thread because it's quite off topic.
 
I know this is more of a joke within the US Army, but I feel like we need to hand some of these out:

Spoiler :
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The only sentence I agree with is that this is getting off topic. But I don't see the need for a new thread either.
 
I know this is more of a joke within the US Army, but I feel like we need to hand some of these out:

Spoiler :
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Lol, I like that, but you would probably have to pick a more "race neutral" colour for that form. We wouldn't want to "trigger" anyone because right now that form is one giant micro aggression!
 
Moderator Action: No more talk about whether the Nazis were socialist, please. Everybody seems to be in agreement that this is not on topic for this thread. If you want to discuss this, start a thread about it rather than posting here.

edit: the thread has already been started. It is here
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BREAKING: Claremont McKenna Dean of Students resigns

Full resignation letter:

Dear CMC Community:

Since 2010 I have been privileged to serve as Dean of Students at Claremont McKenna College. Today I am submitting my letter of resignation, effective immediately. I do so with sadness beyond words, because these nearly six years have been the most rewarding and fulfilling of my life, but also with the conviction that it is the right thing to do for the school and the students I care about so deeply.

I have been grateful for the support of the Administration and the heartening encouragement I have received from so many of my students, former students and colleagues. Among the calls, texts and emails I have received is a student who wrote:

“You’ve inspired me in my time at CMC. Please stay strong and realize students like me need you to stay here…I will always be honored to consider you a mentor, a role model, and above all, friend.”

And a faculty member who wrote:

“I also recognize how much you have worked to make our community more inclusive… I know I join many fellow faculty members and students in expressing my full support and confidence in you as Dean of Students here at CMC.”

To all who have been so supportive, please know how sorry I am if my decision disappoints you. I believe it is the best way to gain closure of a controversy that has divided the student body and disrupted the mission of this fine institution. Most important, I hope this will help enable a truly thoughtful, civil and productive discussion about the very real issues of diversity and inclusion facing Claremont McKenna, higher education and other institutions across our society.

Sincerely,

Mary

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The SJWs have taken over Yale - They are cleaning house!

SJWs at Yale say black people cannot be racist!


Link to video.


SJWs declare a "Million Student March" for free tuition.

Link to video.

A statement from the activists reads: “We are people of all colors, genders, and sexual orientation, and we are united to fight for education as a human right.” Protesters are calling for tuition-free public college, cancellation of student debt, and a $15 minimum wage for college workers… plus a lot of other stuff about “straight white male patriarchy” and rape culture on campus.

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Last night, students at Yale held a “teach-in” to discuss racial issues, described by Yale Daily News as “A forum dedicated to educating the community about the issues faced by people of colour at Yale.” Panel topics included “mental health and microaggressions,” “women of colour,” and “systemic racism.” This followed weeks of protests and attempted Maoist-style purges at Yale after a professor at Silliman College suggested that offensive Halloween costumes might not be a crime against humanity.
 
It's not a problem with "the left" or liberalism or pumpkins.

It's a problem with stupid college kids and the college administration staff who empower them.

It's a problem with normal and expected that when stupid college kids teenagers and 20 somethings are the customers and the college administration staff who empower them that the people running the business will cater to their customers.
Fixed;)
 
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