Japan's Kit

[crdvis16]

If anything, I'd say Japan's UA has anti synergy with Tradition, or at least anti synergy with wanting to work GA/GW/GM specialist slots. The more you utilize the UA and gain GA/GW/GM GPPs from GG/GA spawns the more your specialist slots become less able to produce those great people. Every time you get a general or admiral you increase the GPP needed to get your next artist/writer/musician, essentially making the GPP from working for slots less beneficial.

For instance, one could probably create a scenario where a Japan game went so well in terms of war, Hero Worship, and faith buying GG/GA that past the relative early game you could work every available GA/GW/GM slot in your tradition capital but those slots could never catch up to the ever increasing GPP cost for the next artist/writer/musician due to generals/admirals constantly increasing it. In practice, this doesn't probably happen until maybe late game but it does illustrate the anti synergy with Tradition's specialist working theme. If the generals/admirals gave free great people like Maya's UA without increasing GPP costs then this anti synergy wouldn't be present.

Not to say that Tradition isn't still a good choice, but that might have more to do with Tradition v Authority than Japan in particular?

Edit: also, some of the ideas sound cool in this thread. And I think Authority having a science issue is spot on.

 

[azum4roll]

White Tower is a unique Ironworks.

 

[azum4roll]

For instance, one could probably create a scenario where a Japan game went so well in terms of war, Hero Worship, and faith buying GG/GA that past the relative early game you could work every available GA/GW/GM slot in your tradition capital but those slots could never catch up to the ever increasing GPP cost for the next artist/writer/musician due to generals/admirals constantly increasing it. In practice, this doesn't probably happen until maybe late game but it does illustrate the anti synergy with Tradition's specialist working theme.

The GPP from specialists is still always useful in the capital as they contribute to spawning GWAM. The specialists in other cities basically won't give anything but yields, but it's ok - Tradition only gives bonus to capital anyway.

 

[crdvis16]

Yeah- a Tradition capital with the extra specialist slots and the bonuses to GPP generation typically outstrip other cities. Satellite cities might not ever spawn a GP.

I'm saying that Japan's UA in particular could actually make a Tradition capital's GPP generation pointless due to how it can constantly increase the GPP needed to spawn those artists/writers/musicians. That case is probably hard to pull off, but I believe even the more normal case of just spawning a typical number of generals/admirals works against making artists/writers/musicians through working slots. Hence why I'd call Japan's UA anti synergy with that part of Tradition.