Jews most persecuted people in history?

[Knight-Dragon]

Yes, blindside - basically the early history of Japan is extremely obscure, but I understand that it's thought that what would later become the Japanese state first emerged in around 300 (perhaps slightly earlier than I suggested). It's a time shrouded in myth and legend, from which practically no records survive. So quite when the Japanese actually arrived there isn't really known, but they certainly weren't the dominant power on the archipelago for some time.

The first Japanese arrived via Korea - there're probably a few waves.

I know that some of the earliest Japanese courtly aristocrats were actually Korean. Korea proved to a great transmitter to Japan.

The earliest 'tributary' mission fr Japan was recorded during the period immediately after the late Han IIRC (3-4th century CE). There're some dispute over where this 'Japanese' entity was actually located... i.e. whether on Kyushu island or in the Honshu Kansai region...

 

[Ozz]

The Beuthuk of Newfoundland, they are extinct.

 

[Adso de Fimnu]

The Beuthuk of Newfoundland, they are extinct.

Who are these Beuthuk? Native Americans? It doesn't look like a Native American name... are they (silly guess) Scandinavian, or something? Never hoid of 'em.

 

[Ozz]

Who are these Beuthuk? Native Americans? It doesn't look like a Native American name... are they (silly guess) Scandinavian, or something? Never hoid of 'em.

Native Americans on Newfoundland

 

[HalfBadger]

Native Americans on Newfoundland

Wouldn't that make them Native Canadian? Or First Nations/Aboriginal?

 

[Ozz]

Wouldn't that make them Native Canadian? Or First Nations/Aboriginal?

Native North Americans, Canada didn't exist.

 

[HalfBadger]

Native North Americans, Canada didn't exist.

ahhh Ic that sounds better.

 

[Lord_Sidious]

In Europe the Jews were obvious the most presecuted people. Example: first in Spain and then in Portugal (that's why many Jews fled to Holland) the Holy Inquisition burned many. And the in WW2

 

[Domen]

In Europe the Jews were obvious the most presecuted people. Example: first in Spain and then in Portugal (that's why many Jews fled to Holland) the Holy Inquisition burned many. And the in WW2

Someone I know recently asserted that the Jews have been persecuted longer than any other culture and still survived intact. I was wondering what your thoughts are on this?

Jews weren't persecuted everywhere in Europe, that's why they managed to survive there during the Medieval era and later (until the Second World War):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8C0l3mT0G0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFwtPt8ibg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi2KImJ_eOk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pht9ngGQXI4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CM8LYxQrsU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_JaBMn7SmI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYJ0B14WS8Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16mDR5XILUk

 

[Masada]

Jews weren't persecuted everywhere in Europe, that's why they managed to survive there during the Medieval era and later (until the Second World War):

Looks like your just given links for Poland and Poland-Lithuania. Doesn't prove that they weren't persecuted everywhere does it? They were certainly persecuted under the Czarist state.

 

[Ondskan]

Pfft. The jewish community has partly themselves to blame for its persecution.

In its holy book it states that they are the children of god, the only ones who god loves. They are to forcibly remove 9 civilizations from their homeland and create Israel.

They are not to marry others from other races, it is near impossbile for a non-jew to convert to Judaism. They are very nationalistic. Actually one of the few nations who has their nationalism NAMED after something: Zionism.
They are, at least some of them, racist.

In terms of global developement we often see jewish individuals preaching world peace and world unity while at the same time defending their homeland with zealousness.

In terms of economic wealth they weild considerable power in the world and have special interest groups all around our planet working for the benifit not of humanity, not of the nation, not even of the corporations but of Judaism and its people.



One must ask oneself why they have been persecuted as they have.


It is my firm belife that millions of jews are innocent, the vast majority are good people who actually teach with good example. They are people who are calm, thoughtfull, idealistic.

But sadly they have not as a people rejected the many parts of their society which are a threat to themselves and the world. The Jewish people are full of contradictions.


Ofcourse if one would claim which side is the worst then it is clear that humanity as a whole bares a bigger burden towards the jews than the jews bare towards humanity.




So what was the point of my reply? Well the point is that parts of the foreign aggression against jewish peoples must be justified and thus it cannot fall under persecution. This is often not the case with indigenous peoples for example.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

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