Joe Biden's Achievements

[Remorseless1]

What pathogens are affected by whether you are wearing shirt or shoes? I have always assumed that rule was more about an excuse to not serve "undesirables".

So you're walking on city sidewalks in your bare feet and the sidewalk is loaded with germs then go into a restaurant and track the germs all over. As a counterpoint, you can walk through into a clothing store sans shirt and shoes, and no one cares. There is a difference between places where food us prepared and consumed, and a department store. If you think being forced to wear shoes and shirts to a restaurant, ask the owner she public health regulations they must follow. They can reel off a long list of regulations and note the regular inspections restaurants undergo. It's an attempt to ensure that patrons eat healthy food in a healthy environment. Awful, isn't it?

 

[Samson]

So you're walking on city sidewalks in your bare feet and the sidewalk is loaded with germs then go into a restaurant and track the germs all over. As a counterpoint, you can walk through into a clothing store sans shirt and shoes, and no one cares. There is a difference between places where food us prepared and consumed, and a department store. If you think being forced to wear shoes and shirts to a restaurant, ask the owner she public health regulations they must follow. They can reel off a long list of regulations and note the regular inspections restaurants undergo. It's an attempt to ensure that patrons eat healthy food in a healthy environment. Awful, isn't it?

But is that not also true if you are wearing shoes? It does not explain the shirt either.

 

[Farm Boy]

Your shoes are similarly filthy as your feet. It's about class. Regulations are frequently mislabeled. I wouldn't want the liability of shoeless individuals, tho. You might drop a glass and then they step on it.

 

[Remorseless1]

Yeah, everything is a conspiracy, amirite?

Children...

 

[Samson]

It would be easier to believe in a good reason if yours made more sense.

 

[Farm Boy]

Have you ever listened to people talk about folks that don't wear deodorant? I don't know that functional belief in miasma has actually gone away. I don't think that's conspiracy, just people finding other people gross.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Protecting public health is quite legal.

lockdowns need an evidential burden to justify that as the reason. a burden covid never reached. it is likely they did more damage to public health than helping it.

the abuse of "emergency measures" was awful too.

The problem with shutdowns in the US is they didn't last long enough.

if your goal was even longer/more widespread suffering + higher marginal deaths then doing nothing, then sure. that's an awful goal, however.

Biden didn't shut down anything

biden actively attempted to implement measures against the constitution, doing it in advance knowing it would challenge and fail because that was somehow okay for him. he also tried to do really wacky stuff with osha.

As for mask and vaccine mandates, note that none were required.

nonsense. not only did people have to choose between employment and gene therapy, information about the latter was suppressed at direct behest of the government (1st amendment violation), which big tech has now openly admitted. biden administration reached out to them wrt which information gets blocked or suppressed, directly. as this was being done at behest of government, the private organization defense is not relevant in that context.

not only was that a vile act, it was also illegal. will be amusing to see people blame trump for the therapy complications though.

As for global inflation, supply chain woes, and worker shortages - all global issues, all stemming from a once-in-a-century pandemic.

much of the economic damage can be attributed to the response to the disease, rather than the disease itself. not all of it, but a lot.

Perhaps Biden should have gone full socialist, nationalize the economy, and set prices.

"perhaps biden should have deliberately ruined the country and put as much blood on his hands as possible". fortunately, biden's puppet masters are not quite that evil. price fixing is a fast ticket to hell.

"nationalize the economy" = instant impeachment or well-justified secession/civil war. that's looney tunes stuff. political suicide using a process guaranteed to run a country into the ground.

 

[El_Machinae]

"Gene therapy" is shooting yourself in the foot.

I literally don't care about the opinion of someone who thinks that vaccination is gene therapy, and I proactively encourage others to follow my lead. It mangles the term to the point of incomprehensibility. You might as well call the recommendation to spend more time outdoors "gene therapy". Vaccination is fundamentally a medical discussion, which means that being so confused about simple biology removes you from the conversation.

This is coming from someone who suspects that we overdid social distancing and pushed vaccine mandates too hard.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I literally don't care about the opinion of someone who thinks that vaccination is gene therapy, and I proactively encourage others to follow my lead. It mangles the term to the point of incomprehensibility. You might as well call the recommendation to spend more time outdoors "gene therapy".

it's good enough for the canadian minister of health, so why not good enough for me?

Vaccination is fundamentally a medical discussion, which means that being so confused about simple biology removes you from the conversation.

i'm not leaving the conversation, though nobody is forced to discuss either.

note that gene therapy is also fundamentally a medical discussion. i don't know what else it could possibly be. genetics and gene therapy are taught throughout medical school, and there are physicians which specialize in it. it's a growing field, and it could well be an extremely important/decisive one to the course of humanity in the near future. i don't see how you can make a legit claim that calling something that "removes one from the conversation". there are people with far more credentials than me (and probably any of us) using the term.

this feels similar to when people got annoyed with me for talking about the covid stuff as "experimental", even though in the timeframe i was referencing the cdc itself was technically calling it that. but that's not how it works. 1) it really was experimental at that time, per the governments own definition and 2) that does not mean that a reasonable person shouldn't use it.

 

[EnglishEdward]

Still no more Biden achievements after another day.

 

[El_Machinae]

it's good enough for the canadian minister of health, so why not good enough for me?

I am 99.9% sure that you are confused about what they said, though temporary confusion on their end might be explainable because they're not scientists or scientifically trained. But if you want to cite it, I would appreciate it, legit appreciate it. Another arrow with which to criticize Trudeau usefully.

there are people with far more credentials than me (and probably any of us) using the term.

Then I encourage you to learn how to sort information sources. To call vaccines gene therapy is an abuse of the term.

Obviously there are people with more credentials than me, but I actually have genetically modified organisms. It writes you out of the conversation.

To be clear, the choice wasn't employment or gene therapy. The only choice is whether someone who's completely unqualified to make a medical decision gets to make a medical decision for everybody. The pluralist in me cares that they care, but the only reason why you need to respect the reason why they're wrong is because you need to know why they're wrong in order to help them

 

[Senethro]

Who ordered the gene therapy-ing and how did they get everyone to lie about it?

 

[EnglishEdward]

So what has the POTUS Joe Biden actually done in the
last 17 days, apart from turning up late for a funeral ?

I half suspect he died and was replaced by a lifelike robot.

 

[Hygro]

What are you talking about? How monumental and unilateral does an action need to be for there to be something he “did”?

 

[EnglishEdward]

It is clear to me from the comparative balance of the threads that the USAians here are still grotesquely nostalgic about Donald Trump.

 

[E.man]

It is clear to me from the comparative balance of the threads that the USAians here are still grotesquely nostalgic about Donald Trump.

'Balance '. Now that would be a fine thing.

 

[Hygro]

It is clear to me from the comparative balance of the threads that the USAians here are still grotesquely nostalgic about Donald Trump.

Oh you mean 17 days without committing a crime. Carry on.

 

[EnglishEdward]

Well I suppose that having a POTUS who now seems to do nothing more than the bare
minimum required by the constitution and basic politeness, is not necessarily a bad thing.

It all seems to me just a little like having a rather aged queen as one's head of state.

 

[Hygro]

Well I suppose that having a POTUS who now seems to do nothing more than the bare
minimum required by the constitution and basic politeness, is not necessarily a bad thing.

It all seems to me just a little like having a rather aged queen as one's head of state.

Oh, he’s actually doing a lot.

 

[EvaDK]

The current political problems in the US aren't really caused by the actions of the President; they are caused by a stalemate in the Congress and Senate. The President - no matter who it is - has no constitutional power to override that stalemate. The two-party political system has finally rammed its head into a brick wall, just as it has in the UK.

It's also pretty bad that a clear majority of American voters want action on universal healthcare, climate, affordable education, crime and gun policy, but the people they vote into power don't follow through.