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Join the Empire

Which do you support

  • The good Empire

    Votes: 23 47.9%
  • The evil Rebel Alliance

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • The powerful Yuuzhan Vong

    Votes: 5 10.4%
  • Giant Radioactive Monkeys that don't need more adjectives

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Total voters
    48
What the heck? The lots of you don't even mention Alderaan.. This single event should be enough for anyone sane in their mind to come to the simple conclusion that The Empire is the incarnation of Evil. Not only that, they are a bunch of elitist fags reguarding down non human species.
What about Alderaan? You aren't seriously buying all that rebel BS about the Alderanians are you? They were no peaceful people, they were actively working to bring down the Empire and got just what they deserved for their treachery. As for your drivel about non humans, yeah, the Empire does think we are better than those filthy monsters, as would anyone with a shred of sanity. The Emperor is the best leader the human race has had in mellenia and if you had any sense, you would see it also. And if you think Imperials are fags, you obviousy haven't been in a spaceport when the Imperial Navy has shore leave there. Most brothels work overtime then.

I didn't know they were gay. But come to think of it, I don't remember seeing any women on the Empire Ships. ;)

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a gay empire would also explain why they had to use clones to fill out their stormtrooper ranks.
That is because women do not belong on warships. It is the duty of men to fight and protect their people. Women do not belong in wars. Also, the Imperial Military no longer relies on cloning, and the only clones in the military are leftovers from the last days of the republic.
 
By the way, does anyone played Star Wars Galaxies before the combat revamp and "NGE"? I played on the Kauri server. Anyway, back on topic.

I'm sure some you play the card of The Empire because (i do aswell), bad guys are always cool. I remember playing around as a kid thinking i was a stormtrooper (screw jedi), or bounty hunter (boba fett of course). But you can't say The Empire was good. Order? Forcing order through militarist (sp?) actions means there's something fishy 'bout this so called Empire.
 
That is because women do not belong on warships. It is the duty of men to fight and protect their people. Women do not belong in wars. Also, the Imperial Military no longer relies on cloning, and the only clones in the military are leftovers from the last days of the republic.

A long time ago
In a galaxy far far away
Stormtroopers were told
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
 
While the author of the article makes a very good point, the stability of the Empire, and the potential Chaos after Episode VI... I kinda still side with the Rebels.

This Empire Apologist ignores some very important things when finding excuses for the Empire's atrocities.

Alderaan - The lack of weapons and "peaceful" nature of the Alderan people would have been historically established in the Galaxy by the point of it's destruction. The Imperial officer did not argue this point, in fact I think he responded "I know" (little rusty on that though). He only wished Alderan to be "an example to others." And the destruction of the population of an entire planet is hardly called for in response to the covert treachery of it's monarchy leadership.

Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen - Yes, they did hide Luke from the Empire, however this fact was not established when they were murdered, nor is there any evidence that what they were doing with Luke was against the laws of the Empire itself. Not like they were evading relevant tax on Luke or anything. On "harboring the droids" they had no knowledge of who the droids were, only Luke had any inclination of the significance of the droids, and he didn't find out the full extent until about the time his family was killed.

The Jawas - They again were killed for "harboring the droids" of which they had no knowledge of the extent of their signfiicance, if they did I'm sure they woulda turned 'em over. Particularly in the hopes for a large bounty.

Darth Vader's Discipline - When one of his subordinates does a poor job or question his authority (forget which) he uses the force to choke him to death. The proper responce to this would be a cut in pay, or demotion to Garbage compactor maintenance.

Younglings - Darth Vader's slaughter of the "younglings" along with the rest of the Jedi in Episode III. He did not even attempt to explain to them the failure of their teachers and the need to turn to the "Dark side."

Also, it would appear from the movies that the Jedi's abilities while they seem to be passed down genetically (illustrated by Luke), this is NOT what supports the Jedi's survival. The Jedi still have to "comb" the galaxy for younglings with suitable midi-chlorians levels for training, and once a Jedi Knight vow an oath of chastity, thus why Anakin's relationship with Padme so concerned Padme at first. As a result, there would be no "lineage" of Jedi's. Also, they are in every living thing, but only those with high amounts are "in touch" enough with the force to become Jedi's.

Though at the same time, many Ruthless Warlords is worse then one malevolent dictator... And that's the best point this article has in it's defense.

So while I'm admittantly kinda on the fence, I lean twoards Rebels because of my ideals of freedom and ideological distaste for malevolant dictatorships.
 
But you can't say The Empire was good. Order? Forcing order through militarist (sp?) actions means there's something fishy 'bout this so called Empire.
Order is a requirement for any civilized society to exist. Without the Imperial Military to enforce order, anarchy would reign throughout the galaxy, and the human race would most certainly be forced to carry an alien yoke. The reason the republic fell is because it's institutions were corrupted by permitting aliens to participate in the governing process. Only under human rule can the galaxy be effectively governed as a single unit.


Alderaan - The lack of weapons and "peaceful" nature of the Alderan people would have been historically established in the Galaxy by the point of it's destruction. The Imperial officer did not argue this point, in fact I think he responded "I know" (little rusty on that though). He only wished Alderan to be "an example to others." And the destruction of the population of an entire planet is hardly called for in response to the covert treachery of it's monarchy leadership.
The will of a king is the will of his people, and his actions are theirs. The Alderanians betrayed the Empire and yes, I do hope what happened to them makes other potential traitors think twice before they do something foolish.

Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen - Yes, they did hide Luke from the Empire, however this fact was not established when they were murdered, nor is there any evidence that what they were doing with Luke was against the laws of the Empire itself. Not like they were evading relevant tax on Luke or anything. On "harboring the droids" they had no knowledge of who the droids were, only Luke had any inclination of the significance of the droids, and he didn't find out the full extent until about the time his family was killed.

The Jawas - They again were killed for "harboring the droids" of which they had no knowledge of the extent of their signfiicance, if they did I'm sure they woulda turned 'em over. Particularly in the hopes for a large bounty.
Those droids contained classified information about a top secret Imperial project. During the time the droids were on Tatooine, either the Jawas or the farmers could have accessed the information. Anyone untrustworthy who even potentially comes into contact with such information is to be exterminated as soon as possible. The deaths of Imperial citizens is regrettable, but if sensitive information leaks to our enemies, it puts everyone in the Empire at risk.

Darth Vader's Discipline - When one of his subordinates does a poor job or question his authority (forget which) he uses the force to choke him to death. The proper responce to this would be a cut in pay, or demotion to Garbage compactor maintenance.
The Imperial Military has no room for fools or insolence. Orders are to be carried out completely, without question, and with no regard to casualties. Discipline is what makes us strong.

Younglings - Darth Vader's slaughter of the "younglings" along with the rest of the Jedi in Episode III. He did not even attempt to explain to them the failure of their teachers and the need to turn to the "Dark side."

Also, it would appear from the movies that the Jedi's abilities while they seem to be passed down genetically (illustrated by Luke), this is NOT what supports the Jedi's survival. The Jedi still have to "comb" the galaxy for younglings with suitable midi-chlorians levels for training, and once a Jedi Knight vow an oath of chastity, thus why Anakin's relationship with Padme so concerned Padme at first. As a result, there would be no "lineage" of Jedi's. Also, they are in every living thing, but only those with high amounts are "in touch" enough with the force to become Jedi's.
Lord Vader did not need to explain himself to the younglings. What he did was no different than killing infant snakes before they become a threat. And since the Empire is seeking to purge the galaxy of Jedi, anything that lowers their survivability is fine with me.

Though at the same time, many Ruthless Warlords is worse then one malevolent dictator... And that's the best point this article has in it's defense.

So while I'm admittantly kinda on the fence, I lean twoards Rebels because of my ideals of freedom and ideological distaste for malevolant dictatorships.
Do not let the empty words of the rebels sway you. Their way of thinking is the same as that of the corrupt and incompetent old republic. You have seen the fruit of their thinking, it is failed and of the past. The Empire is the way of the future.
 
You'll have to explain how the creme de la creme Stormstroopers got their butts kicked by a bunch of fury balls on feet though. :D
 
They were getting old and forgot what they learned on previous missions to forest lands.
 
You'll have to explain how the creme de la creme Stormstroopers got their butts kicked by a bunch of fury balls on feet though. :D
Their equipment was clogged by the hairballs from Ewoks shedding.;) We plan to vaporise the moon's atmosphere from orbit soon, that should teach them. We also are planning an expedition to earth to arrest one George Lucas for putting a dumb ending to what was a pretty neat trilogy.
 
You'll have to explain how the creme de la creme Stormstroopers got their butts kicked by a bunch of fury balls on feet though. :D

And what's with their pathetic armor? It can't stop blasters, it can't stop lightsabers, heck it can't even stop sling stones from incapacitating the wearer. We're talking about a civilization that has mastered intersteller, faster than light travel, and they can't make a decent mobile body armor?
 
I tend to favor the Galactic Empire ;)
 
Rebels. A government which will not let the people freely enter and exit cannot have just powers.
 
And what's with their pathetic armor? It can't stop blasters, it can't stop lightsabers, heck it can't even stop sling stones from incapacitating the wearer. We're talking about a civilization that has mastered intersteller, faster than light travel, and they can't make a decent mobile body armor?
The research department blew it's budget on the Death Star. Effective body armour was never much of a priority, much to the dismay of those of us who have to wear it.
 
I believe that the armor is build to withstand civillian power blasters. I can't remeber exactly.
 
I believe that the armor is build to withstand civillian power blasters. I can't remeber exactly.
That was a brilliant idea, especially when you consider that most of our work involves fighting people using military grade equipment. Also, I have no proof of this, but I suspect we have been using low bid contracts for blasters. I'm in charge of a boarding party, and I swear, we have the most amazing difficulty hitting the rebel scum even at point blank range.
 
That's because you're not using rifled barrels in your blasters, causing the light beam to tumble inaccurately instead of spinning and maintaining an accurate flight path.
 
That was a brilliant idea, especially when you consider that most of our work involves fighting people using military grade equipment. Also, I have no proof of this, but I suspect we have been using low bid contracts for blasters. I'm in charge of a boarding party, and I swear, we have the most amazing difficulty hitting the rebel scum even at point blank range.
Meh, somehow the Empire I am in control (The Republic of Coruscant) uses laser weapns and machine guns ;).
 
The research department blew it's budget on the Death Star. Effective body armour was never much of a priority, much to the dismay of those of us who have to wear it.

Just make another clone...
 
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