King of the World #2 Pre-game Thread

[Neal]

Hey, all. I started this thread to discuss the who and the what of the next KotW. Here's what I know so far:

• I plan on getting Beyond the Sword, but I'd like to play one more game without it. Judging from the current ALC, Better AI scares me.
• I'd like to play a Eurasian power. We did isolation last time.
• I want to go to war! I didn't want to deal with the logistics of an oceanic invasion, so we ended up turtling in the last game. Let's not do that again.
• I don't want to do Rome. I've already done the cheap Praet rush (fun, but it doesn't really teach you anything other than that Rome is overpowered-at least on this map).
• I don't want to do Japan. Toku's a favorite of mine on Earth (he has that Australia in Risk thing going). I'd like to try something new.
• We went cottages last game, so maybe we should try an SE this time around. I'm less adamant on this than the other criteria, though.

So with those ground rules in place, what do you all think? I'd love to try Alexander, but maybe it's worth waiting for the beefed up Phalanx. We could do Hatty and just dominate with War Chariots. If Persia's overdone, I'm willing to skip (or at least put off) Cyrus.

Let the debate begin!

 

[r_rolo1]

If you want a SE and a Eurasian power, why not Peter?... Having so much land avaliable can be quite a chalenge. Or maybe as the Germans....

 

[Melon Head]

Go Hateshput! Early War Chariots to take out Darius, expand peacefully while beelining cavalry, then tech cav asap and conquer europe. Tech up to tanks and blitz china. It'll be the last big hurrah for tanks before anti-tank infantry.

 

[dankok8]

I suggest taking Germany for a real challenge and a lot of land grab through wars Egypt and Persia are way too strong on the Earth Map and in a good position so using them to win would be pretty much a breeze for you.

I say Go Freddy Go

 

[RockTheCazbah87]

France is wedged right in the middle of Germany, Spain, Rome and England... I'd like to see you go for a cultural, that'd be tough.

 

[BARBEERIAN]

I second the motion to go with Peter the Great. Philo is the trait to have if you're going SE, and expansive's cheap workers will help you chop more early troops and make those farms. As Peter you've got alot of irrigated grassland to work with so from an economic standpoint that's great for your SE. Early rush a neighbor or two to grab some big hammer cities and then beeline Cossacks and overrun Europe, Asia and Africa! (Might as well do a cossack blitz before they require rifling making the Cav beeline muuuuuuuuuuuch slower)

 

[Neal]

To all of you clamoring for Peter...

Unfortunately, Russia is locked into Catherine. As much as I love beelining Computers with Peter for all those free Philosophical scientists in the late game, he's off the table.

 

[Whitefire]

Turkey. Poor starting Terrain, but a nice UU/UB.

 

[slaze]

Or Mali ....
Or Shaka ...

 

[r_rolo1]

Ok ,then Germany. Philo leader AFAIK and LOTS of warmongering just to get 3decent cites... And a good time to say goodbye to the golden Panzer age...

 

[svv]

"The Revenge of Roosevelt." Or even tougher, Huyana. Give a chance to the civ you wiped out/vasselized in the last game.

 

[I play 4 fun]

do arabia. one of the harder civs to play

 

[Brave Jay]

G-e-r-m-a-n-y!!!!!!!!

 

[Brave Jay]

I'm not sure the economy will be as significant since your in europe with loads of resources and trading partners all around. Hammers are what you want and need for wars

 

[AThousandYoung]

You should be Mongolia!

Or what about Spain? That way there's no gimped AI (due to settler position at start).

 

[Jet]

Turkey. Poor starting Terrain, but a nice UU/UB.

My Warlords Earth18 doesn't have Turkey. Are you thinking of a different version?

My main suggestion would be that if you're considering Domination, use Epic speed. I think there's no reason not to try a strong leader/start, if you don't mind changing the handicap level.

 

[AThousandYoung]

Turkey would be the Persians I imagine. Right?

 

[Whitefire]

My Warlords Earth18 doesn't have Turkey. Are you thinking of a different version?

My main suggestion would be that if you're considering Domination, use Epic speed. I think there's no reason not to try a strong leader/start, if you don't mind changing the handicap level.

Ah yes, the one where I added in more civs, heh.

 

[Morgrad]

Spain!

I'd love to see Spain not 1 square away from the coast and totally gimped. You could have 3 capital city sites after a monster axe-rush-'o-rama into France, Germany, and Rome - slap Russia and Greece with uber-Catapults and Swords, burn your way through the middle east and Africa with Conquistadors, crush half of Asia with grenadiers and uber-promoted cannon (from the UU) and the other half with tanks and infantry!

WAR WAR WAR WAR! (break for lunch) WAR WAR WAR WAR!

Hmm.... maybe I'll start an Isabella game tonight after I get home. I think if anyone is ideally set up for a constant-war SE domination win on a map that freakin' huge, it's Isabella.

 

[AThousandYoung]

Ok ,then Germany. Philo leader AFAIK and LOTS of warmongering just to get 3decent cites... And a good time to say goodbye to the golden Panzer age...

Something happening to the Panzers in BTS?