Kingdom Come: Deception (Game Thread)

If there's a tie and I am voting for someone, whoever I am voting for is lynched.

--> When I am a caught wolf, I don't panic. I stop talking. I wouldn't have posted hardly anything today had I been a wolf. People forget about non-posters.

WOOF WOOF

BARK BARK

Now, you're wafling. This dog's dad was on old wolf and his mother stray cat. He's the most cunning of foxes, Sigismund.

Vote Takhisis

This kind of rping is not helping to sort you out.

Healer(Town): Csargo

Masons(Town): Dolbster, Samson

Dog/Crazy person(????): Tak

Tiebreaker(????): topsecret

If scum don't have some strongman ability, then there's potentially a poisoner/vigilante among us, but it seems unlikely they'd both target Visor.

Ok, Dolbster/Samson masons makes sense. I would nevery risk that as a fake claim this early.
Samson radiates a purity that only comes from first game town. If he flips scum I won't know what to say. That's my 99% read right there

Also, if we have both cop and masons, mafia can't win this game. That's basically four or five people lock clear by now.
In terms of claims only, is there any mechanical reason to take TS's power as town power?


Dolbster you have betrayed me for the last time. That signature change was the last straw. Even though I have uncountable reasons to vote Tim, I shall vote: Dolbster. May you die the Takhisis' death you deserve. Also did I miss something or did the doctor out themselves? I assume we all knew about the doctor and poisoner due to the morning message, but why would they come out? Did I misread something? Is someone copying my usual gameplay?

This doesn't look so good now. Also, it looks like you're trying something new by not claiming.
 
Eh, I personally think that it’s more likely than not that TS’s power is town because if it’s not it slightly cheapens the “voice and vote” thing. But I wouldn’t 100% commit to it. I don’t think that he’s lying about his role, that’s just begging to get tied up at EoD
 
Hey Zelda

Could I ask you how you feel about how Tak is acting

Worse then yesterday. I defended him quite hard against Tim, because Tim's reasons for voting him weren't that good and he could suspect for low content many other players such as Joanne. Which is interesting, because he didn't have any content at that point and Tim chose to take it as Johanna and left it be.
Today, Tak taking on role of dog is a funny gimmick and I can see him that by reposting certain posts he've been trying to bring our attention to them. But why these posts? It could be random.
I guess it could be just tak, but if he's town I want him to stop the gimmick for a while and post few real thoughts worded in language known to bohemians (english or old czech).

Eh, I personally think that it’s more likely than not that TS’s power is town because if it’s not it slightly cheapens the “voice and vote” thing. But I wouldn’t 100% commit to it. I don’t think that he’s lying about his role, that’s just begging to get tied up at EoD

I guess it might be. We probably can let him use it in Town's favour and if there's a cop, they can check him meanwhile.
 
Can you make a tier list Zelda? Doesn’t need reasoning just want to know where you’re at rn

I also don’t think that TS is the most productive cop inspect if we have a cop
 
Can you make a tier list Zelda? Doesn’t need reasoning just want to know where you’re at rn

I also don’t think that TS is the most productive cop inspect if we have a cop

Sure, on it

VVV - Dolbster, Samson, Csargo
VV - Tim
V - Rask, Jovian, Golden Knight
W - Johanna, Topsecret, LordArgon, GamezRule
WW -
WWW -
DOG - Takhisis

I'm moving tak around a lot. LordArgon's more of a null, but I went from him being Argon again to seeing some more intricacy in his posts. It's like he has a plan, maybe even agenda.
Jovian's position in V is weak. I was satisfied with his top three scumreads, but he haven't appeared later on and struggles to join the discussion. Also, looking at his list again, it's still horrendously hollow.
Golden Knight I need to read more from. He's quite good at defending his action, but there's not much of original in his analysis.
I think I might try to sort through the pile of Vs a Ws before deadline and put them in more defined tiers.
 
Well, that was an eventful few hours. There are 11 hours left in which to vote.

Afternoon Tally
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Topsecret (4): Rrrask, Csargo, GamezRule, Golden1Knight
Dolbster (3): Topsecret, MarcherJovian, Lord Argon
Timsup2nothin (2): Takhisis, Dolbster
Rrrask (1): Timsup2nothin
Takhisis (1): Pzelda

Not Voting (2): Samson, JohannaK


Also, a point of order: please don't ask me questions in the main thread. You all have private threads for that reason.


(*Errors & Omissions Excepted)
 
Three people voting Dolbster is a travesty. I could vote TS, but I don't see need for that right now as he already has four votes. It would be nicer to make a good counter wagon to that.
Tims and Rask aren't people I would like to vote there and honestly, if ever vote them it would be to see who else jumps on the wagon.

I talked about this a little before but what are even chances of w Tim changing his read on v Tak? They could be w/w, but I don't see reason for Tim to distance by almost lynching his partner d1. On the other hand, he could be angry that Tak wasn't active. The progression towards not pushing was little weird as he started d2 with another soft push and then without any new real contribution from Tak stopped it.
Rask I think was towny, but I def need to take another look at his posts or see him post more to be certain his analysis has been bringing something new to the table.
 
Well I plan on switching off Dolbster today, but I am still feeling betrayed by his actions. To further elaborate on my role, it is a limited use nightkill protection. I am glad I am suspicious so the doctor would never think of guarding me and wasting their action. I also don't mind the suspicions since I hope that will keep the wolves off me and let me save my power. Unvote
 
Dolbster you have betrayed me for the last time. That signature change was the last straw. Even though I have uncountable reasons to vote Tim, I shall vote: Dolbster. May you die the Takhisis' death you deserve. Also did I miss something or did the doctor out themselves? I assume we all knew about the doctor and poisoner due to the morning message, but why would they come out? Did I misread something? Is someone copying my usual gameplay?

I nearly posted yesterday you would vote this way so I didn't have to... good joke for sure. But an easy one mate.

Except...

Vote: Raskol

Now that I think about it.

Lemme guess...you're a cop.

illiterate vanilla.

This is what I was looking for to (temporarily) clear Tim in my mind. He said in the Franklin wolf chat that Town Tim second guesses himself even when both tunneling and accusing. (There was more context and info.) Even if this doesn't matter to anyone else, I am not inclined to lynch Tim rn.

vote: RRRaskolnikov

Nailing me to a wall and in a coffin is too easy. But if it's not you, find me a better person besides me (or Dolby, Tim, Csargo, and Samson.) I am not voting any of them. Or Tak. We are running out of options here unless someone is lying in claims.

You found the energy to vote me after Tim's one? afraid of OMGUS accusation or just a sheeping wolf. I am not forgetting you.

After he lied in Franklin as a vanilla townie, I'm admittedly dubious

Yeah LA is in for another possible fake claim. high on my lunch pool he is.

Me: I'm town, I've been town, and my new approach to the game was working okay until I got irritated that no one else was gonna put Dolbster to the test. As a result the entire game blew up in my face and once again instead of catching wolves I seem to have outed every power role the town was blessed with and wound up behind the eight ball.

You need to actually stop doing this, that is if you want to go on pretending you are town. Last time you forced claims, and for the matter called to lunch lurkers (did it with MJ or Johanna in this game already), you were scum (we lunched TCD for nothing iirc in Franklin)

LodArgon: Has unsurprisingly made a 'mystery claim' that I find hard to take at face value based on past games. In the suspect pool.

TopSecret: Has claimed "tiebreaker." Dolbster believes this is a town tilted power, if real. I think it is real because it is too obscure and borderline useful to be claimed in the heat that it was claimed in if it were fake. I am mostly inclined to defer to Dolbster on application, which would make TopSecret town. Just having a weird power might account for him playing a little weird, so that also tips me in his favor. Edge of the pool.

Takhisis: Takhisis is the town dog, just like I am the stablehand at the inn. Anyone else would have taken that as meaningless flavor, but this role fell to Takhisis because of course it did, and now we are stuck with him barking. Maybe the barking in the night means something in relation to him having some sort of watchdog powers, and maybe it doesn't but we can count on either a restriction from Arakhor or his commitment to roleplaying to keep him from telling us. Ultimately, this is all too weird to include being a wolf. I can buy 3P survivor, and I can buy town, and either way I see no benefit in lynching him.

Pzelda: Hasn't claimed anything yet. I believe him wholeheartedly when he says he would rather play town, but I know he is very capable if the RNG hands him a short straw. He's been solvey but with all my strongest suspects suddenly out of the pool how he reacts to this turn of events is going to be like a new first impression

Raskol: Same thing as far as a new first impression goes, but I think he actually likes playing wolf. He is also one of the people I have to consider as the kind of strong wolf to take the lead in the wolf den and produce such a flailing mess for the town.

Johanna: Coming and going in regular Johanna style, but I was strongly considering as a wolf teammate for my more active suspects. With them fading out I'm left with Jo as maybe my best bet suspect.

Csargo: claimed doctor. The EoN read clearly indicates that there IS a doctor. Unless someone coughs up a counterclaim I have to believe this one, and on the face of it knowing that there is a doctor would make an out of the blue fake claim totally absurd.

Marcher: I was thinking town. I'm still sorta thinking town. But again the pool got a lot smaller so reassessment has to be done.

Dolbster: Went from number one suspect to town in the flurry of claims. The end. Glad to have you on board to try to sort this mess out.

Gamez: You're in it now. You've shown some spark, and you've had time to shake the rust off. Time to show what you are made of, on way or the other.

Samson: Vouch for Dolbster and you are both in the clear. I can't quite put my finger on any scenario where that doesn't happen.

AuKnight: If I lynch Raskol and he flips town you are my best remaining suspect for lead wolf, man of mystery who knows Visor from way back, so you need to step up and hand me a wolf on a plate.


Anyone who doesn't like their status is free to explain why not before I get back. I'm gonna have four or five hours before EoD and I'm planning to rally a serious mob and lynch somebody, just to make myself feel better.

LA: yeah, I am with u there
topsecret: I can totally see the claim true and mafia aligned. Buy another day to the mafia team to do their thing.
Tak: I really dunno why he his a TRed. Ofc it would be weird to RP a dog but then he was lynched for RPing last game, and many players here are the same. He may be playing that card actually. Him barking isn't really helping the town u know. Though he is one of my last lynch target, since we have better suspects.
pzelda: meh, people are lying u know so potentially all these claims are fake, no need to drop everyone else from your suspect pool.
me: thanks for the kind word. and yeah I like being a wolf, maybe another game though. You aren't lunching me today.
Jo: yeah maybe. I need to reread him since Dolbster's analysis. He may be on something there.
Csargo: the best, tonight he will deliver. I find it funny Arakhor is trolling him and Tak by assigning a barking dog role to Tak, and a shouting woman one to Csargo.
MJ: I agree. I would like to see some more presence in the thread though. Dropped two (admitidly decent) read lists and that is all?
Dolbster & Samson: may want to lunch one of them to check the claim. But that would waste their power. Still, if we aren't lunching TS (which we should trully), Samson is in for the lunch imo
GK not cleared but liking his posts. Not his votes though.
GZ: yeah, need to step up.

my take on lunch pool. TS/LA > Samson/Tak. Jo among the rare posters.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, if we are all telling the truth, for it narrows the suspects and gathers a town "base."

The problem is are we all telling the truth? But that usually comes out in the wash relatively soon.

lol. It his a bad thing D2. Arakhor wouldn't make it possible to solve the game with mass claiming.

Ok, Dolbster/Samson masons makes sense. I would nevery risk that as a fake claim this early.


Also, if we have both cop and masons, mafia can't win this game. That's basically four or five people lock clear by now.
In terms of claims only, is there any mechanical reason to take TS's power as town power?

Dolbster had high chances to be lynched prior to claiming, it has to be accounted for. Add the potential TS power, and he was set to die D2 imo. So there is a possibility of him being a wolf and going for a false claim we don't wanna test.

As said, I think TS's power (wchich I sorta believe but need to be put up to test) may be a wolf one.

(*Errors & Omissions Excepted)

I belive TS is also voting me. (it might be a welcome omission on your part though :thumbsup:)
 
(*Errors & Omissions Excepted)
I believe Dolbster is voting for me. Which, actually, I'm surprised nobody else is. ALERT: I can't backspace or press Enter or the browser gives me an exception error(!?) so no paragraphs or line breaks. All I can offer up is that I literally haven't been on CFC for 16 hours and I am confused. Right now, very confused. So many roles. What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is having apparently two couples of masons in Tim-Tak and Dolby-Samson, even if Tim & Tak aren't masons proper. Presumably the power roles have a profession or title? Personally I only got my name. So if the dog and the stablehand are supposed to be 'soft' masons... ? Something doesn't add up but, then, they'd have to be scum pairs and I really don't think this level of exposure would be risked by anyone. There could be a couple of lovers instead.
 
Eh, I personally think that it’s more likely than not that TS’s power is town because if it’s not it slightly cheapens the “voice and vote” thing. But I wouldn’t 100% commit to it. I don’t think that he’s lying about his role, that’s just begging to get tied up at EoD
I want to be tied at EoD. My power will break the tie.

@Arakhor I am voting for Rask (for now but not sure I will stay there.)
 
I belive TS is also voting me. (it might be a welcome omission on your part though :thumbsup:)
I believe Dolbster is voting for me.

Huh. You're both right. I think that CFC dropped some of my post-in-progress when I was switching pages.

Corrected Tally
Topsecret (4): Rrrask, Csargo, GamezRule, Golden1Knight
Dolbster (2): MarcherJovian, Lord Argon
Rrrask (2): Timsup2nothin, Topsecret
Timsup2nothin (1): Takhisis
Takhisis (1): Pzelda
JohannaK (1): Dolbster

Not Voting (2): Samson, JohannaK
 
Huh. You're both right. I think that CFC dropped some of my post-in-progress when I was switching pages.
Yeah I started using notepad after that happened to me once. Maybe that would help you.
 
I should do that, yes. My pre-game notes are all on Notepad++, as it is.
 
What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is having apparently two couples of masons in Tim-Tak and Dolby-Samson, even if Tim & Tak aren't masons proper.

I am assuming Dolby/Samson are masons and Tak handled that letter to Tim. Need confirmation.
 
I don't like any of the contenders. TS is looking more sketchy, but that wagon hardly needs any more votes. I've been waffling on Dolby, and I would rather lynch Samson to test his claim. I give up. I can't write a post without backspacing, it's like the 6th time half the post gets deleted.
 
I also get the exception if I press the BOLD button??? Holy mess. vote: Samson
 
I don't like any of the contenders. TS is looking more sketchy, but that wagon hardly needs any more votes. I've been waffling on Dolby, and I would rather lynch Samson to test his claim. I give up. I can't write a post without backspacing, it's like the 6th time half the post gets deleted.
Sometimes the same thing happens on my phone. Press the "no format" editor and you can write correctly.

I don't want to Lynch Dolby anymore.
 
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