Known virtues and tooltip madness.
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I was cringing every time they left a worker out in the open near to a native unit. Even Pete! When i think of how often i had my workers "dance" with the barbarians in Civ5, because my warrior would be out scouting. The problem in BE might just be that aliens sometimes ignore workers, so the player just might hope for the best (still not worth the risk in my eyes).
Inhalaattori
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I dont see 2 workers being overpowered in any way. With extra production you can build them fast and with extra energy you can buy one.
I agree: it is a one time bonus, doesn't scale, and its only a minor production costs. Would you select that virtue if it gave you old earth relic in the capital or a soldier unit (comparable cost and you'll have build those around the same time also).
Sure, workers are way strong, but in terms of opportunity cost the benefit of this virtue is not a worker (on which you have to pay maintnance too), but the saved production cost and production time of a worker. Which makes it more "meh" in my eyes. Now 15% decrease in improvement time could translate in one worker less to build and to maintain, which would be more in line with industry's "5 gold/turn in the capital" in the long run, but its not that great a virtue either (and neither is central planning compared to the other options in industry).
Inhalaattori
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Number 5 in Prosperity tree is "Colonist iniative". Its effect is: "Gain a free colonist unit"
Source:
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/battling-alien-sea-monsters-and-inventing-the-futu/2300-6421162/
Source:
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/battling-alien-sea-monsters-and-inventing-the-futu/2300-6421162/
ggmoyang
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Prosperity 3 - ?????? - +30% speed towards outpost growth.
Knowledge 6 - ??? Values: -10% culture needed for new virtues.
Knowledge 8 - Networked Datalinks: -50% science penalty from number of cities for new technologies.
Knowledge 9 - Community Medicine: +1 health for every 6 population in a city.
Knowledge 11 - Metaresearch Methods: Leaf technologies cost 20% less science.
form PAX mega panel.
Knowledge 6 - ??? Values: -10% culture needed for new virtues.
Knowledge 8 - Networked Datalinks: -50% science penalty from number of cities for new technologies.
Knowledge 9 - Community Medicine: +1 health for every 6 population in a city.
Knowledge 11 - Metaresearch Methods: Leaf technologies cost 20% less science.
form PAX mega panel.
KrikkitTwo
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Confirmed tech cost increase from city #
ggmoyang
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Someone please read this, what's the name of that virtue
at 7:38
Someone please read this, what's the name of that virtue
at 7:38
can't really make it out. "cohesive" comes to mind.
Do virtue costs for each incremental new virtue increase less than 10%? The way it is it seems a bit lackluster to me. If every additional virtue costs 10% more than the preceding one a 10% decrease would just cover the additional cost by having 1 additional virtue (which may as well be the one granting the 10% reduction). That would reduce it to nothing more like 2/5 of a kicker.
KrikkitTwo
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Either cohesive or coherent probably
GoodSarmatian
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Thank you all for the contributions. I'll update the OP after todays's stream.
Nope, can't decipher it. I wouldn't worry about it. We'll probably get a good look in abot three hours.
Someone please read this, what's the name of that virtue
at 7:38
Nope, can't decipher it. I wouldn't worry about it. We'll probably get a good look in abot three hours.
ggmoyang
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Might 10 - ???: Choose a free affinity level. (probably.)
Damn, I really want to download the video and see images frame by frame...
Damn, I really want to download the video and see images frame by frame...
SupremacyKing
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one of the last virtues in Prosperity is "ecoscaping" and gives +1 production, +1 food, +1 culture to all terascape improvements.
ggmoyang
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Might 8 - ??????: +40?% intrigue from covert operations.
Might 13 - ??????: +3 orbital coverage provided by stations you ??? with.
Prosperity 14 - Ecoscaping: +1 food, production, culture from every terrascape improvement.
Industry 12 - ??????: -25% energy cost to purchase units.
Synergy for 10 Industry virtues: +10% production in every city.
Synergy for 15 Industry virtues: Earn 1% of stockpiled energy every turn, up to 100 energy
source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vufyym8_ySo
Might 13 - ??????: +3 orbital coverage provided by stations you ??? with.
Prosperity 14 - Ecoscaping: +1 food, production, culture from every terrascape improvement.
Industry 12 - ??????: -25% energy cost to purchase units.
Synergy for 10 Industry virtues: +10% production in every city.
Synergy for 15 Industry virtues: Earn 1% of stockpiled energy every turn, up to 100 energy
source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vufyym8_ySo
KrikkitTwo
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It seems they might have switched that one from the early Industry
its still there. You can have both the virtue and the synergy bonus für a combined 2% interest per annum up to 200 gold.
The lifestream today was very exhaustive on the issue, only one virtue had been overloocked (prosperity T1): its +30% to outpost development speed.
ggmoyang
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I believe the second T2 synergy bonus was skipped too.
And what was 3rd prosperity synergy bonus? I think they mentioned it but couldn't find it...
T3 virtues:
Might T3:
M11. Brutal Efficiency: +50% quantity from sources of strategic ressources
M12. Integrated Arms: +10% Production towards Units for each upgrade it has
M13. Joint Operations: +3 Orbital coverage by stations you trade with
M14. Democratized Quartering: -50% maintainance for Units
M15: Channeled Wrath: +10% Strength and ranged strength for all units
depth kicker: 15 virtues: Choose 1 Free Affinity Level
Prosperity T3:
P11. Natures Bounty: +1 Production from every Basic Ressource
P12. Joy From Variety: +1 Health from every type of Basic Ressource that is improved
P13. Hand never idle: +2 energy from any Population acting as a Specialist
P14. Ecoscaping: +1 food, +1 production, +1 culture from every Terrascape Improvement
P15. Eudaimonia: 25% less negative health
depth kicker: 15 virtues: unknown
Knowledge T3:
K11. Metaresearch Methods: Leaf Technologies cost 20% less science
K12. Information Warfare: Recruit 1 new Covert Agent
K13. Learning Centers: +2 Science from every Academy Improvement
K14. Technoartisans: earn extra Science equal to 25% of the Culture you generate
K15. Monomyth: +7 culture for every Great Wonder
depth kicker: 15 virtues: 1 free tech
Industry T3:
I11. Social Investment: +2 Production from every Manufactory Improvement
I12. Liquidity: -20% Energy cost to purchase Units
I13. Civic Duty: Each City tile generates +0,5 Production for every Population
I14. Magnasanti: Each City generates +0,2 Health for every Building
I15. Superior Engineering: Orbital Units stay in orbit 50% longer before deorbiting
depth kicker: 15 virtues: earn 1% of stockpiled Energy amount every turn, up to 100 Energy
T3 synergy bonus:
10 virtues: +10% Growth, Production, Science, Culture and Energy in every city.
Disclaimer: Capitalisation of words is *sic Firaxis, not some strange german notion of mine (but you have to agree that it looks better the german way ;-) )
Might T3:
M11. Brutal Efficiency: +50% quantity from sources of strategic ressources
M12. Integrated Arms: +10% Production towards Units for each upgrade it has
M13. Joint Operations: +3 Orbital coverage by stations you trade with
M14. Democratized Quartering: -50% maintainance for Units
M15: Channeled Wrath: +10% Strength and ranged strength for all units
depth kicker: 15 virtues: Choose 1 Free Affinity Level
Prosperity T3:
P11. Natures Bounty: +1 Production from every Basic Ressource
P12. Joy From Variety: +1 Health from every type of Basic Ressource that is improved
P13. Hand never idle: +2 energy from any Population acting as a Specialist
P14. Ecoscaping: +1 food, +1 production, +1 culture from every Terrascape Improvement
P15. Eudaimonia: 25% less negative health
depth kicker: 15 virtues: unknown
Knowledge T3:
K11. Metaresearch Methods: Leaf Technologies cost 20% less science
K12. Information Warfare: Recruit 1 new Covert Agent
K13. Learning Centers: +2 Science from every Academy Improvement
K14. Technoartisans: earn extra Science equal to 25% of the Culture you generate
K15. Monomyth: +7 culture for every Great Wonder
depth kicker: 15 virtues: 1 free tech
Industry T3:
I11. Social Investment: +2 Production from every Manufactory Improvement
I12. Liquidity: -20% Energy cost to purchase Units
I13. Civic Duty: Each City tile generates +0,5 Production for every Population
I14. Magnasanti: Each City generates +0,2 Health for every Building
I15. Superior Engineering: Orbital Units stay in orbit 50% longer before deorbiting
depth kicker: 15 virtues: earn 1% of stockpiled Energy amount every turn, up to 100 Energy
T3 synergy bonus:
10 virtues: +10% Growth, Production, Science, Culture and Energy in every city.
Disclaimer: Capitalisation of words is *sic Firaxis, not some strange german notion of mine (but you have to agree that it looks better the german way ;-) )
and T2:
Might T2:
M6. Scavenging: Earn 100% of a native lifeform's strength as Science after killing it
Earn 30 Science (on normal speed) from destroying native nests
M7. Adaptive Sciences: +20% Affinity earned from researching technologies
M8. Special Service: +40% Intrigue from Covert Operations
M9. Army Engineering Corps: +1 Production, +1 Energy from every Strategic Ressource
M10. Martial Meditations: Choose 1 Free Affinity Level
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +5% Strength and +5% Ranged Strength for all Units
Prosperity T2:
P6. Pathfinders: Explorer Units can build 3 additional Expeditions
P7. Pioneer Spirit: -25% culture needed for border expansion
P8. Gift Economy: +3 Energy from your land- and sea-based Trade Routes to foreign Cities
P9. Settler Clans: +2 Population for newly founded Cities
P10. Mind over Matter: +7 health
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: 1+ Health in every City
Knowledge T2:
K6. Cohesive Values: -10% Culture needed for new virtues
K7. Applied Aesthetics: Earn extra Energy equal to 50% of the culture you generate
K8. Networked Datalinks: -50% Science penalty from numer of Cities for new technologies.
K9. Community Medicine: +1 Health for every 6 Population in a City
K10. Memeweb: -50% Culture penalty from numer of Cities for new Virtues.
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +10% Science in every City
Industry T2:
I6. Investment: earn 1% of stockpiled Energy amount every turn, up to 100 Energy
I7. Entrepeneurial Spaceflight: +25% Production towards Orbital Units
I8. Profiteering: +0,5 Health for every Trade Unit under your command
I9. Alternative Markets: Trade Routes with Stations grant +6 Energy per Station tier
I10. Interdependence Network: +25% more yields from your Trade Routes to your own Cities
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +10% production in every City
T2 width Synergy boni:
8 virtues: Choose 1 free virtue, Recruit 1 new Covert Agent
12 virtues: unknown
Again: strange capitalization is not a hallmark of german origin.
Might T2:
M6. Scavenging: Earn 100% of a native lifeform's strength as Science after killing it
Earn 30 Science (on normal speed) from destroying native nests
M7. Adaptive Sciences: +20% Affinity earned from researching technologies
M8. Special Service: +40% Intrigue from Covert Operations
M9. Army Engineering Corps: +1 Production, +1 Energy from every Strategic Ressource
M10. Martial Meditations: Choose 1 Free Affinity Level
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +5% Strength and +5% Ranged Strength for all Units
Prosperity T2:
P6. Pathfinders: Explorer Units can build 3 additional Expeditions
P7. Pioneer Spirit: -25% culture needed for border expansion
P8. Gift Economy: +3 Energy from your land- and sea-based Trade Routes to foreign Cities
P9. Settler Clans: +2 Population for newly founded Cities
P10. Mind over Matter: +7 health
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: 1+ Health in every City
Knowledge T2:
K6. Cohesive Values: -10% Culture needed for new virtues
K7. Applied Aesthetics: Earn extra Energy equal to 50% of the culture you generate
K8. Networked Datalinks: -50% Science penalty from numer of Cities for new technologies.
K9. Community Medicine: +1 Health for every 6 Population in a City
K10. Memeweb: -50% Culture penalty from numer of Cities for new Virtues.
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +10% Science in every City
Industry T2:
I6. Investment: earn 1% of stockpiled Energy amount every turn, up to 100 Energy
I7. Entrepeneurial Spaceflight: +25% Production towards Orbital Units
I8. Profiteering: +0,5 Health for every Trade Unit under your command
I9. Alternative Markets: Trade Routes with Stations grant +6 Energy per Station tier
I10. Interdependence Network: +25% more yields from your Trade Routes to your own Cities
Depth kicker: 10 virtues: +10% production in every City
T2 width Synergy boni:
8 virtues: Choose 1 free virtue, Recruit 1 new Covert Agent
12 virtues: unknown
Again: strange capitalization is not a hallmark of german origin.
