I haven't changed any civics after the initial HR, vassalage, slavery, OR, except that I adopted resettlement after astronomy, which helps a lot with stability. I am switching to PS, nationhood, emancipation, FR and occupation as soon as I get Fascism and Cristo Redentor.
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I haven't changed any civics after the initial HR, vassalage, slavery, OR, except that I adopted resettlement after astronomy, which helps a lot with stability. I am switching to PS, nationhood, emancipation, FR and occupation as soon as I get Fascism and Cristo Redentor.
Hmm, perhaps I'll take Istanbul then.
ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
not in a history textbook
ilduce349
(Financial, Philo)
which economic civic will u choose?
Kullervo
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Great story. Such a pity Russia's history was not like this in real life... 
My advice: Attack the turkish mainland. The fact that your espionage against Turkey is so strong means that you will be able to cause city revolts, unhappiness, and sickness anytime you want to. I think you have a real chance of conquering Istanbul, Ankara, and Konya very soon. After that, settle for a peace, whatever they give you. Do not worry about Portugal... they are never very powerful in any of my games.
PLEASE don't conquer Finland... I would have to decide where my patriotic loyalty lies then, and I can't handle the stress...
In all seriousness, though, Why would you want to conquer it? It's under Viking influence (who are your friends, and they are a very useful friend to have), and frankly it's not that great land.
My advice: Attack the turkish mainland. The fact that your espionage against Turkey is so strong means that you will be able to cause city revolts, unhappiness, and sickness anytime you want to. I think you have a real chance of conquering Istanbul, Ankara, and Konya very soon. After that, settle for a peace, whatever they give you. Do not worry about Portugal... they are never very powerful in any of my games.
PLEASE don't conquer Finland... I would have to decide where my patriotic loyalty lies then, and I can't handle the stress...
In all seriousness, though, Why would you want to conquer it? It's under Viking influence (who are your friends, and they are a very useful friend to have), and frankly it's not that great land.@Ilduce: I don't have a economy civic in use EDIT: but I'll use State Property, of course
@Kullervo: Conquering turkish mainland would seriously hurt my stability so I can't really do it. And I have just played ahead of this, so it's too late anyways. Don't worry I am not going to take Finland, though my culture dominates over there. Vikings have the west coast and Vasa.
I'll update soon so you'll see how it all worked out.
@Kullervo: Conquering turkish mainland would seriously hurt my stability so I can't really do it. And I have just played ahead of this, so it's too late anyways. Don't worry I am not going to take Finland, though my culture dominates over there. Vikings have the west coast and Vasa.
I'll update soon so you'll see how it all worked out.
The Russo-Turkish War was the last hit for the struggling Arabian Empire. The war cut off all trade routs in Middle East and once mighty empire collapsed into several city states. However, after the dust had settled, the Turkish controlled Armenian city states also rebelled and united with the Mesopotamian city states in order to form a Middle Eastern alliance, which named after the ancient civilization of Babylonia. All this brought Turkey on the brink of collapsion, which suited Catherine and Russia extremely well as Turkey couldn't anymore militaristicly threaten Russia.
Nontheless, the Ottoman Emperor sent a small army through the Caucasus Mountains in order to surprise the Russians. This proved to be a mistake as the Russian Cossacks encountered and quickly annihilated the Ottoman Cavalry Platoons just north of the Mountains.
The war was at a standstill as neither side felt the need to attack eachother. The Turks were too weak and troubled by their internal disputes that a direct attack against Russia would surely collapse the deteriorating Ottoman rule. Catherine on the other had no real interest to conquer Turkish lands, at least not yet while the Ottomans were still standing and able to resist an invasion.
However, apparently the Nordic Viking Empire was not well informed about the situation of the Russo-Turkish War and in 1820 they declared on Russia as they probably thought that they could catch Russia off guard.
The Norrmen had the elements of surprise on their side, but in the end they failed to exploit it. When the Viking army crossed the border to Russia started to advance towards weakly defended Murmansk, Catherine ordered all her European Platoons to ride north and encourter this new threat. The Russian reinforcements would have not made in time unless the Viking General had not ordered the cannons to soften the way first. The Norrmen wasted precious time while bombarding the defences in the freezing cold of the Arctic. As a result the Russians had time to build up the defences and gather troops. In order to win time the Russian garrison orchestrated a succesful attack against the sieging army.
The Russian attack slowed the Viking assault even more and they were still doubtful about making the final push, when the Russian Imperial Cavalry Platoons rode straight into their right flank.
The Viking army was completely surprised and the Russian cavalry Platoons crushed the army without second thoughts. Murmansk was saved.
Nontheless, the Ottoman Emperor sent a small army through the Caucasus Mountains in order to surprise the Russians. This proved to be a mistake as the Russian Cossacks encountered and quickly annihilated the Ottoman Cavalry Platoons just north of the Mountains.
The war was at a standstill as neither side felt the need to attack eachother. The Turks were too weak and troubled by their internal disputes that a direct attack against Russia would surely collapse the deteriorating Ottoman rule. Catherine on the other had no real interest to conquer Turkish lands, at least not yet while the Ottomans were still standing and able to resist an invasion.
However, apparently the Nordic Viking Empire was not well informed about the situation of the Russo-Turkish War and in 1820 they declared on Russia as they probably thought that they could catch Russia off guard.
The Norrmen had the elements of surprise on their side, but in the end they failed to exploit it. When the Viking army crossed the border to Russia started to advance towards weakly defended Murmansk, Catherine ordered all her European Platoons to ride north and encourter this new threat. The Russian reinforcements would have not made in time unless the Viking General had not ordered the cannons to soften the way first. The Norrmen wasted precious time while bombarding the defences in the freezing cold of the Arctic. As a result the Russians had time to build up the defences and gather troops. In order to win time the Russian garrison orchestrated a succesful attack against the sieging army.
The Russian attack slowed the Viking assault even more and they were still doubtful about making the final push, when the Russian Imperial Cavalry Platoons rode straight into their right flank.
The Viking army was completely surprised and the Russian cavalry Platoons crushed the army without second thoughts. Murmansk was saved.
Yes, that was the plan. I don't know what to do with Trabzon and Tebriz though, as Trabzon is on Turkey and Tebriz in Iran, but I feel that I should have some influence in the Caucasus region.
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I see Turkey has corporation soon. Better make peace soon until you get Assembly Line.
Vassalize the Vikings and you'll be safe from all sides.
Vassalize the Vikings and you'll be safe from all sides.
Okay, I just thought that it was because in almost every place where i've seen it being mentioned it was spelled tsardom. But English is not my first language and i totally trust that you know how it's spelled.
Yes, they do and there will be peace soon, though they don't seem that powerful anymore afte Babylonian spawn. I don't feel that the vikings are a good enough vassal, so I'll just make peace to save some money.
You are forgetting China, which has been really strong throughout the game, and France, which has grown more powerful after Germany collapsed.
Pryphthygm
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Yes, both tsar and czar are considered acceptable. I was going to say that earlier, but I decided not to. However, tsar isn't necessarily "more correct", but it is, as you quoted, considered to be a more accurate transliteration, but that does not mean it is "more correct", or at least in my opinion, in the same way that Qur'an is not necessarily more "correct" than Koran; and all four of those are orthographical, according to common standards. Personally, I prefer the spelling, czar.
After the destruction of the Viking Army, Catherine ordered the Russian forces to retaliate the gutless declaration of war. Therefore when the Russian 1st and 2nd European Infantry Battallions accompanied by the Hungarsk Musketmen and 1st Royal Guard of Moskva arrived at Murmansk, the Russian Army crossed the Viking border and marched towards Lulea.
The assembled Russian Army attacked Lulea without hesitation and caught the Norrmen of guard. The city fell quickly under the pure mass of Russian forces, though. Catherine had ordered the city to be burned as a reminder of the Russian power.
The Vikings had seeked protection from the Ottomans after their loss at Murmansk and had agreed to vassalize under them. Therefore after the burning of Lulea Ottomans approached Russia in terms of peace on every front. Catherine felt that Russia had proved her power and the effectiness of the Russian Imperial Army, so she agreed and a peace treaty was signed between Russia and Turkey.
Manwhile the official census organized by Catherine herself proved that Russia inhabitet more than 100 million citizens.
Russia also copied new technologies from the Turks.
The assembled Russian Army attacked Lulea without hesitation and caught the Norrmen of guard. The city fell quickly under the pure mass of Russian forces, though. Catherine had ordered the city to be burned as a reminder of the Russian power.
The Vikings had seeked protection from the Ottomans after their loss at Murmansk and had agreed to vassalize under them. Therefore after the burning of Lulea Ottomans approached Russia in terms of peace on every front. Catherine felt that Russia had proved her power and the effectiness of the Russian Imperial Army, so she agreed and a peace treaty was signed between Russia and Turkey.
Manwhile the official census organized by Catherine herself proved that Russia inhabitet more than 100 million citizens.
Russia also copied new technologies from the Turks.
Spoiler :
Well, the more correct was also a direct quote from Etymology Dictionary just didn't put it there, but here it is:
Though, I completely get your point, I just wanted appoint that it wasn't my personal opinion.
Pryphthygm
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The spelling czar seems to be from the usage of Freiherr Sigismund von Herberstein in his book Rerum Moscoviticarum Commentarii.
Sorry, though, if I am getting too off-topic...
Sorry, though, if I am getting too off-topic...
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