Latest BNP charm offensive

[Yom]

I'm not sure he objects to being racist, Yom.
(By the way, you said "our" country- are you actually Ethiopian? I guess I had assumed that you were an Ethiopian-American with an intense appreciation of your heritage.)

I am an Ethiopian who was born in America, but I consider my country to be Ethiopia.

 

[Britannia]

Brittania, does the BNP, or you specifically, proudly admit to being racist? Or is there a euphemism for it in party terms?

We proudly admit that we want an all European Briton. So that makes us racist in a lot of people's eyes. But I dont view the white race as superior or anything like that I just want the Britain and Europe to be kept European.

Not true. Look up Richard Pankhurst to see an "ethnically" white person who is by all other standards an Ethiopian. There are many Ethiopians who have done less to help our country than he has.

By all other standards he may be Ethiopian(I'll take your word for it) but ethnically he is not. A racially unified aswell as culturally unified country is far stronger than if it was multi racial/multi cultural.
Someone will have to explain to me why diversity is strength. For example why are 300 million Americans, say 60% European 40% other, stronger than 300 million Americans that is 100% European?

Why would you redefine the definition of being British just to include them? If they're not ethnically British, then why include them while excluding other non-ethnic Brits? Do you see the disrepancy and racism in that view?

Because England, Scotland and Wales make up the nation of Britain. Therefore only Englishmen, Scots and Welshman can be British as Africans, Arabs etc. cant be English or Scottish.

 

[Hamlet]

Despite the propagans you've heard from people like ComradeDavo the majority of British people do not dislike us,

What do you base that on?

 

[privatehudson]

Some British people cant

Therefore they should be removed from the country...

I dont think so, the situations are different but the principles invlolved are the same.

It's rather impossible for the Israelis to "Invade" a land they've been living in in considerable numbers for quite some time. I'd argue it's equally ridiculous to claim immigrants are "invading" the uk, but I doubt you'd listen.

Despite the propagans you've heard from people like ComradeDavo the majority of British people do not dislike us, the liberal elite intellectuals might but the majority do not

Now you know that's funny, because I don't know anyone who's actually voting for you, and only one who even hinted he might consider it, and that was in jest

What do you base that on?

Very little concrete facts, undoubtedly we're all either brainwashed against the BNP or too frightened to admit liking them

 

[Britannia]

Eyrei- Its not a fantasy mate, just look at the recent European/local elections for proof.

What do you base that on?

On my own experiences, I leaflet/canvass for the BNP and when I go to doors I am not received with hatred but rather curiosity. Though I admit the majority say they wont vote BNP, in some part thanks to the electoral system, most say to me that they sympathise with the BNP on some issues. They talk about things like losing their country, our crime and anti social behaviour policy is a popular one and many people, I would even say the majority of people that I talk to agree with the BNP on that one.
I had one pensioner who let me in then started calling me a Nazi etc. and saying he fought against Hitler and all that, and then it turned out that I'd served in the same regiment as him and after a lengthy discussion of the BNP policies I left with a certain BNP voter behind me.

Now I do mostly do working class areas so it may be different among the more well off but in pubs and that if you shout out that you support the BNP you wont be hurled out the door or anything. Also alot of people even if they are not BNP supporters are angry about the anti free speech laws etc. So from my point of view that is why I'm so optimistic about the BNP's future.

 

[Britannia]

Therefore they should be removed from the country...

No they have a right to be here the Muslims do not.

It's rather impossible for the Israelis to "Invade" a land they've been living in in considerable numbers for quite some time. I'd argue it's equally ridiculous to claim immigrants are "invading" the uk, but I doubt you'd listen.

The Palestinians would not agree, they were the majority in the area even if the Jews had been living there for centuries. The Jews won Israel through immigration first and foremost. More and more Jews migrated there over the decades until the Palestinians couldnt take it anymore.

Now you know that's funny, because I don't know anyone who's actually voting for you, and only one who even hinted he might consider it, and that was in jest

Our support is very regionalised. Have a look how many people in your area voted for the BNP in the recent European election, I bet it was quite a lot.

Very little concrete facts, undoubtedly we're all either brainwashed against the BNP or too frightened to admit liking them

As I've pointed out on several occasions the BNP is growing at a tremendous rate.

 

[phoenix_night]

Hmm...

Well I'm Welsh; "original" Briton - as in, before those English turned up. So, Britannia, how about you get the hell out of our country and leave it for the ethnic Britons?

 

[Britannia]

Well I'm Welsh; "original" Briton - as in, before those English turned up. So, Britannia, how about you get the hell out of our country and leave it for the ethnic Britons?

Nope, sorry . That would not be in the English peoples best interest or half of the Scottish and Welsh populations for that matter.

 

[Yom]

Nope, sorry . That would not be in the English peoples best interest or half of the Scottish and Welsh populations for that matter.

Why wouldn't it be in their interests? The ethnically "non-Britons" would be out of their country, leaving them with the jobs that they deserve, and allowing their culture to flourish once again. The non-Britons (English) have done a lot to suppress Welsh and Cornish language and culture in the past; now, the invasion can be reversed and the real Britons can live in their country again.

 

[Britannia]

Why wouldn't it be in their interests? The ethnically "non-Britons" would be out of their country, leaving them with the jobs that they deserve, and allowing their culture to flourish once again. The non-Britons (English) have done a lot to suppress Welsh and Cornish language and culture in the past; now, the invasion can be reversed and the real Britons can live in their country again.

Well for a start the Welsh and Scottish population is not exactly pure Celt. The Anglo Saxons, Norse and others have migrated and intermarried into those populations. That is why I do not accept the idea of Welsh, Scottish and English ethnicities on their own but rather as a sub ethnic group of British ethnicity, sure there are differences between us but they are much smaller than Scottish/Welsh/English nationalists make them out to be.

Also the populations of England, Scotland and Wales have been unified now for centuries, we have been living in these Islands together now for a thousand years. The Scots and Welsh may have been here before us but it is in all of our interests to keep the British nations our own.

 

[Yom]

Well for a start the Welsh and Scottish population is not exactly pure Celt. The Anglo Saxons, Norse and others have migrated and intermarried into those populations. That is why I do not accept the idea of Welsh, Scottish and English ethnicities on their own but rather as a sub ethnic group of British ethnicity, sure there are differences between us but they are much smaller than Scottish/Welsh/English nationalists make them out to be.

Not all have mixed with Anglo Saxons and others. There are some pure Welsh and Scots. Why shouldn't they have a right to kick out others, based on your logic for kicking out non-Britons?

 

[Britannia]

Not all have mixed with Anglo Saxons and others. There are some pure Welsh and Scots. Why shouldn't they have a right to kick out others, based on your logic for kicking out non-Britons?

They have a right if they want, not using our logic though we wouldnt kick out people of European ethnicity. But its not like the Welsh haven't tried its just that we're too strong for them .
Obviously wheher they had a right or not wouldn't matter to me and every other Englishmen as England is our homeland and so has Britain become.

 

[Mise]

England is our homeland and so has Britain become.

You have a penchant for hypocrisy, don't you...

 

[Babbler]

So you think it is right for your ancestors to displace, with force, the previously existing inhabitants for Great Britain to remain; whereas newcomers from around the globe, coming with (mostly) good intentions, should be kicked out?

Talk about cognitive dissonance.

 

[Yom]

Obviously wheher they had a right or not wouldn't matter to me and every other Englishmen as England is our homeland and so has Britain become.

Okay. Using this statement, you cannot expell non-ethnically English Britons who have adopted Britain as their homeland (which is what the BNP and you are suggesting). End of story; case closed. Quod erat demonstrandum.

 

[Mise]

And your solution is kicking them out of the country? Yeah...that will help immensely...and there aren't gangs of white people beating up muslims for being muslims? I'd imagine your party secretely likes such instances at any rate, as it helps your 'cause'.

"Secretly likes"? They're the ones organising them...

 

[Britannia]

You have a penchant for hypocrisy, don't you...

Of course not, you seem to come at it from a point of view of what is morally right, I come at it from a point of view of what is right for the British people. Which is a micture of Anglo Saxon, Norse and Celts. These are all North Western European peoples.

So you think it is right for your ancestors to displace, with force, the previously existing inhabitants for Great Britain to remain; whereas newcomers from around the globe, coming with (mostly) good intentions, should be kicked out?

Again this isn't about whats right this is about whats best for my people. Do you think the Angles and Saxons who invaded in the 5th century just sat by as the vikings invaded in the later centuries because they were immigrants too? Of course not, they fought beacause they had made England their homeland.

Okay. Using this statement, you cannot expell non-ethnically English Britons who have adopted Britain as their homeland (which is what the BNP and you are suggesting). End of story; case closed. Quod erat demonstrandum.

How is that? The BNP is the party of the British people, those of European descent whether that be Norse, Celt or Anglo Saxon. Or any other European descent for that matter.


Take a look at the genetic survey done by the BBC, it seems that there is about the same propotion of Anglo Saxon and Norse in the Scottish population as there is in the English.

www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/genetics_results_04.shtml

 

[Britannia]

"Secretly likes"? They're the ones organising them...

And you accuse us of lying, the amount of lies you use against the BNP is unbelievable.

 

[Britannia]

I am an Ethiopian who was born in America, but I consider my country to be Ethiopia.

Also Yom by that statement you have partly proved my point.

 

[Mise]

And you accuse us of lying, the amount of lies you use against the BNP is unbelievable.

Hah! The whole country knows who starts the fights...