The Capo
godless Heathen
Actually, you said exactly the same thing!
It was a Yakov Smirnoff joke.
Leaderhead Database and Request thread
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It was a Yakov Smirnoff joke.
I got it. What I meant is that Madman tried to say the opposite, but if you think about the two sentences, they have the same meaning.
As you know (or don't know), I'm working now on updating the LH database. I'm doing it when I have the time (and I don't have much since I have a few university projects and it is also Novyy God (the New Year) now, and I'm also working on a LH, but I'm trying). Now, I noticed Ramkhamhaeng is not in the LHs database. Would you like me to upload it? If so, I will need to know who made this LH. I believe it is Amra, but I would like to be sure I'm giving proper credit.
Ekmek
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oh no its already beginning. I'm already hearing from religious people we need a christian president and things will be better. When I say George W Bush was a christian president (born-again, evangelical to be exact) I already hear "no, he wasn't a real christian." 
idealists, can't live with them, don't want to.Back on topic, the goths would be cool. I remember Bismarck in Civ3 as an ancient barbarian. could be cool and I could use it for Mare Nostrum. But I'm so slow on getting anything out on my current list I cant take them on
Yes, I did that a long time ago. I'm not sure if I remember how to do a LH anymore, to tell the truth.
Anyway, thanks for caring enough to give the proper credit (although not really necessary). That is very kind of you.Yes, I did that a long time ago. I'm not sure if I remember how to do a LH anymore, to tell the truth.
Amra, I knew you were watching us! I understand you are giving me the green light to upload your Ramkhamhaeng to the database in your name. It is really wrong that such a great LH isn't available for direct download. I'm going to fix this issue.
Thank you for the compliment and please feel free to upload or, for that matter, use anything I ever did here in the past. Everything is free for all and credit is not really necessary (Nice but never necessary).
And yes, I peek in every now and then but never seem to have the time or desire anymore to do any actual modding, oh well...
ambrox62
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I can't believe to my eyes: the "mitical" Amra is back 
Welcome back
Happy New Year to ALL LH makers
Recently I've seen lots of interesting LHs and really well done
Followers of Ekmek "the teacher", you guys have produced lots of good stuff,
to be continue next year
Welcome back
Happy New Year to ALL LH makers
Recently I've seen lots of interesting LHs and really well done
Followers of Ekmek "the teacher", you guys have produced lots of good stuff,
to be continue next year
The Capo
godless Heathen
I can't believe to my eyes: the "mitical" Amra is back
Welcome back
Happy New Year to ALL LH makers
Recently I've seen lots of interesting LHs and really well done
Followers of Ekmek "the teacher", you guys have produced lots of good stuff,
to be continue next year
Thank you Ambrox, Happy New Year to you too!
I put up a "Vercengetorix version of Clovis" in the DB that you might find useful for your mod.
Ok, i'm entirely new to Civ IV. Hell, im completely new to the civilization game franchise as a whole, i just got the civ iv, warlords and bts pack a few days ago and im completely hooked already. One little thing though... As you might guess im in this thread looking for someone to maybe make me a face i can put on my special type of gameplay. That is, a megalomaniac, power-hungry despot. Yes, i realize he's not exactly a historical figure nor is he much of a leader, but that face is something i grew up with associating with the previously mentioned characteristics and to completely immerse myself into the game and my type of rule i want this guy spearheading the operation 
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Allow me to present to you, Mr. Albert Wesker. Polymath, aspiring god and megalomaniac extraordinaire. You might ask me why the hell i would not just use one of the vanilla heads we already have. The reason is quite simple, when i play a game like this, i don't want to play someone else's story, not a guy or woman whos been dead for god knows how many years, not a nation who has long fallen into decadence (or is still up and running for that matter) but my own. I simply cant immerse myself into a long campaign with the identity of the chosen nation looming in the back of my mind. Im not role-playing some twisted version of resident evil the rts either, wesker just has a cool face and fits the arrogant megalomaniac picture well.
The glowing cats eyes and carbon fiber coat probably aren't necessary. Anything fitting his character would be great though if you would oblige.
Also, i tried making my own but 3d applications has never been my forte.
Personally, i was thinking the animation of the byzanthine Justinian I and the base model of possibly us roosevelt (?) would be fitting but thats only because i dont know the limitations of the program you use or what boundaries the game sets for the heads. So if someone could enlighten me a bit that would be great.
.Allow me to present to you, Mr. Albert Wesker. Polymath, aspiring god and megalomaniac extraordinaire. You might ask me why the hell i would not just use one of the vanilla heads we already have. The reason is quite simple, when i play a game like this, i don't want to play someone else's story, not a guy or woman whos been dead for god knows how many years, not a nation who has long fallen into decadence (or is still up and running for that matter) but my own. I simply cant immerse myself into a long campaign with the identity of the chosen nation looming in the back of my mind. Im not role-playing some twisted version of resident evil the rts either, wesker just has a cool face and fits the arrogant megalomaniac picture well.
The glowing cats eyes and carbon fiber coat probably aren't necessary. Anything fitting his character would be great though if you would oblige.
Also, i tried making my own but 3d applications has never been my forte
.Personally, i was thinking the animation of the byzanthine Justinian I and the base model of possibly us roosevelt (?) would be fitting but thats only because i dont know the limitations of the program you use or what boundaries the game sets for the heads. So if someone could enlighten me a bit that would be great.
I found a tutorial by ekmek but it seems to be for Civ III?
I'd like to request Golda Meir. I'm no artist and I'm not sure what will feasibly work. But, here are some suggestions for her.
PICTURES:
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/meir_golda.jpg
http://www.takegreatpictures.com/content/images/Golda_Meir.jpg
http://thetroublemakertimes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/golda-meir.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Golda_Meir_03265u.jpg
BASE LEADERHEAD:
Sitting Bull - Don't know if you can use him because of the headdress, but he has some similar facial features, especially the bottom half of his face. He has a broad, square chin. She also had a rather large, but rounded, chin.
Mao Zedong - He's a little too heavy and would have to be thinned down a little. His mole would have to be removed. Although Golda's cheeks were not very pronounced, she did have some prominent lines that outlined her cheek and went past her mouth all the way to nearly the bottom of her chin.
EYES/BROWS - Augustus Caesar or Winston Churchill (minus the "extra skin" between his eyebrows!)
NOSE - It's large but rounded and not extremely wide. It might resemble Hammurabi's nose best.
HAIR - Very plain - perhaps Mao Zedong would be the best starting point here.
CLOTHES - Conservative navy blue dress or suit jacket. Might be able to work with Mao's outfit or possibly Lincoln, DeGaulle or Churchill.
NECKLACE - She's got to have that white simple beaded necklace that kind of looks out of place!
ANIMATIONS - Someone whose demeanor is calm and collected but stern.
BACKGROUND PICTURE - Something plain, like curtains.
PICTURES:
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/meir_golda.jpg
http://www.takegreatpictures.com/content/images/Golda_Meir.jpg
http://thetroublemakertimes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/golda-meir.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Golda_Meir_03265u.jpg
BASE LEADERHEAD:
Sitting Bull - Don't know if you can use him because of the headdress, but he has some similar facial features, especially the bottom half of his face. He has a broad, square chin. She also had a rather large, but rounded, chin.
Mao Zedong - He's a little too heavy and would have to be thinned down a little. His mole would have to be removed. Although Golda's cheeks were not very pronounced, she did have some prominent lines that outlined her cheek and went past her mouth all the way to nearly the bottom of her chin.
EYES/BROWS - Augustus Caesar or Winston Churchill (minus the "extra skin" between his eyebrows!)
NOSE - It's large but rounded and not extremely wide. It might resemble Hammurabi's nose best.
HAIR - Very plain - perhaps Mao Zedong would be the best starting point here.
CLOTHES - Conservative navy blue dress or suit jacket. Might be able to work with Mao's outfit or possibly Lincoln, DeGaulle or Churchill.
NECKLACE - She's got to have that white simple beaded necklace that kind of looks out of place!
ANIMATIONS - Someone whose demeanor is calm and collected but stern.
BACKGROUND PICTURE - Something plain, like curtains.
MadmanOfALeader
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Nice LH instructions, fox! Golda Meir is an excellent choice.
veBear, I'm doing a new list for this database. Be sure your link is included!
Couch Tomato
First Tomato Emperor
Post reiteration time!
It's nice that we're getting leaderheads from all over the world (including like 20 or so for Hungary)... but one civ is getting severe misrepresentation. There has hardly been a new leaderhead for China (aside from Firaxis' Taizong), even though it's one of the most important nations today and has the longest history of all civs...
So I'm gonna request these two modern leaders again in order of preference:
Sun Yat-Sen
First President of the Republic of China
Who he was: In the final stages of the Qing Empire, Sun Yat-Sen was a revolutionary scholar who sought to bring China out of its backwardsness and follow the example of the more advanced western nations and even the rapidly advancing Japan. He was responsible for developing the Three Principles of the People (Nationalism, Democracy, and Socialism). After numerous attempts at bringing about revolution and overthrowing the corrupt and inefficient Qing government, he followed gathered enough support and founded the Republic of China. Unfortunately, he could not oversee his own dream of a democratic and modernized China as he died early from health problems.
Why he needs a LH: Sun is widely revered in both the PRC (China) and the ROC (Taiwan) as the Father of Modern China. In other words, he holds a prestige akin to the likes of George Washington of the US, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk of Turkey, and Mohandas Gandhi of India... That pretty much speaks for itself on the weight of his influence. His lifetime (and especially his rule) was short-lived, but his contributions to his country are enormous. This is no problem, considering Gandhi wasn't even a ruler, yet he is a Civ leader. Sun is an absolute must for China, and would be the only leader who wasn't a tyrant at the same time (Qin, Mao, and even Chiang). So Sun Yat-Sen is my top request at the moment.
Chiang Kai-Shek
President of the Republic of China, Chairman of the Kuomintang (Nationalist Party)
Who he was: More people would probably be familiar with Chiang, the leader of the Republic of China during WWII, and the successor of Sun Yat-Sen to the mantle of the Kuomintang. He lead an extreme war against the communists during WWII and after into the Chinese Civil War. One interesting thing was that he believed that the communists were more of a threat than the Japanese invaders. Either way, the nationalists lost and fled to Taiwan due to inefficiency, corruption, losses from the war against Japan, and losing moral support. Although he was committed to leading "free China," he himself was a very dictatorial and oppressed his people and their freedoms especially in Taiwan to achieve his goals.
Why he needs a LH: The answer is obvious. We have all the major Allied leaders (Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, DeGaulle) except Chiang. Note that's also four of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council represented (Mao does not count as the PRC wasn't recognized until decades later). Given that a lot of mods focus on this timeline, he's pretty important (understatement). LH's of Chiang do exist, but they're nowhere near the quality of current ones, which is why he's still requestable. If I had to pick only one between these two Chinese leaders though, I'd have to go with Sun Yat-Sen.
On a side note, three of my other previous requests have been done since I requested them: Atatürk, Gustavus Adolphus, and Nasser.
So please, LH artists, before making more (relatively) obscure leaders, can we at least get two of the last major historical figureheads up and going?
It's nice that we're getting leaderheads from all over the world (including like 20 or so for Hungary)... but one civ is getting severe misrepresentation. There has hardly been a new leaderhead for China (aside from Firaxis' Taizong), even though it's one of the most important nations today and has the longest history of all civs...
So I'm gonna request these two modern leaders again in order of preference:
Sun Yat-Sen
First President of the Republic of China
Who he was: In the final stages of the Qing Empire, Sun Yat-Sen was a revolutionary scholar who sought to bring China out of its backwardsness and follow the example of the more advanced western nations and even the rapidly advancing Japan. He was responsible for developing the Three Principles of the People (Nationalism, Democracy, and Socialism). After numerous attempts at bringing about revolution and overthrowing the corrupt and inefficient Qing government, he followed gathered enough support and founded the Republic of China. Unfortunately, he could not oversee his own dream of a democratic and modernized China as he died early from health problems.
Why he needs a LH: Sun is widely revered in both the PRC (China) and the ROC (Taiwan) as the Father of Modern China. In other words, he holds a prestige akin to the likes of George Washington of the US, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk of Turkey, and Mohandas Gandhi of India... That pretty much speaks for itself on the weight of his influence. His lifetime (and especially his rule) was short-lived, but his contributions to his country are enormous. This is no problem, considering Gandhi wasn't even a ruler, yet he is a Civ leader. Sun is an absolute must for China, and would be the only leader who wasn't a tyrant at the same time (Qin, Mao, and even Chiang). So Sun Yat-Sen is my top request at the moment.
Chiang Kai-Shek
President of the Republic of China, Chairman of the Kuomintang (Nationalist Party)
Who he was: More people would probably be familiar with Chiang, the leader of the Republic of China during WWII, and the successor of Sun Yat-Sen to the mantle of the Kuomintang. He lead an extreme war against the communists during WWII and after into the Chinese Civil War. One interesting thing was that he believed that the communists were more of a threat than the Japanese invaders. Either way, the nationalists lost and fled to Taiwan due to inefficiency, corruption, losses from the war against Japan, and losing moral support. Although he was committed to leading "free China," he himself was a very dictatorial and oppressed his people and their freedoms especially in Taiwan to achieve his goals.
Why he needs a LH: The answer is obvious. We have all the major Allied leaders (Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, DeGaulle) except Chiang. Note that's also four of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council represented (Mao does not count as the PRC wasn't recognized until decades later). Given that a lot of mods focus on this timeline, he's pretty important (understatement). LH's of Chiang do exist, but they're nowhere near the quality of current ones, which is why he's still requestable. If I had to pick only one between these two Chinese leaders though, I'd have to go with Sun Yat-Sen.
On a side note, three of my other previous requests have been done since I requested them: Atatürk, Gustavus Adolphus, and Nasser.
So please, LH artists, before making more (relatively) obscure leaders, can we at least get two of the last major historical figureheads up and going?
The Capo
godless Heathen
Chiang Kai Shek and Sun Yat Sen are good requests. I might do one, but I'm too busy ATM.
Another problem is that we have three Firaxis LHs for China- I don't need more. Ekmek made Cixi and MO made Yu, so that's five, and The Capo doesn't need more. Other LH makers are busy with other projects. Again, I do advise you to take a look at the CHiang LH in the database.
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