Let's compare: Colosseum UB's

[Bast]

One reason the Odeon is good is that you can conquer a city with a Colosseum and immediately have a culture building in it. (All buildings that were already producing culture get destroyed, but Colosseums don't produce culture.)

If it weren't for this, I would much rather have the happy/health than three culture and artist slots.

This can be huge. I've found this really useful. I once conquered a city and looked into the built list and saw an Odeon and thought it was a bug. And then I realized. Oh it's just a colosseum and they already have one. Neat!

 

[Antilogic]

Ball Court seems generally better than Odeon.

People who are obsessed with having everything be equally good drive me nuts. It's a plus for Civ, in my view, that some of the leaders and unique units and buildings are better than others. More variety. If you think a particular advantage is too large or too small, you can always play at a higher or lower level of difficulty, to compensate.

Same here, to an extent. I would rather see a bunch of decent bonuses, but ones that are completely distinct from each other. For example, the swarm of +2 happiness and +2 health UBs makes me sick. There are several other ideas for UBs (and I won't pollute this thread by starting a discussion on which ones could be changed except if it specifically relates to Colosseum UBs) that are not used.

 

[hoopsnerd]

Same here, to an extent. I would rather see a bunch of decent bonuses, but ones that are completely distinct from each other. For example, the swarm of +2 happiness and +2 health UBs makes me sick. There are several other ideas for UBs (and I won't pollute this thread by starting a discussion on which ones could be changed except if it specifically relates to Colosseum UBs) that are not used.

Yeah I totally agree with this. Can't we be a bit more creative with the types of things a UB does? UBs should actually do things that help you in some "unique" (it's a Unique Building, after all) way, like the Aztec UB halves your whipping unhappiness or the Russian UB helps you build spaceships faster. I can get health or happiness from so many sources, why do I need my UB to give me a little extra?

 

[Lance of Llanwy]

Yeah I totally agree with this. Can't we be a bit more creative with the types of things a UB does? UBs should actually do things that help you in some "unique" (it's a Unique Building, after all) way, like the Aztec UB halves your whipping unhappiness or the Russian UB helps you build spaceships faster. I can get health or happiness from so many sources, why do I need my UB to give me a little extra?

I don't think they're bad in themselves, it is merely that they are overused as bonuses.

 

[Antilogic]

I don't think they're bad in themselves, it is merely that they are overused as bonuses.

That's precisely the reason why I am so querulous on this issue. I'm modding the game to add in some new ideas I have...and the major catalyst for that was the repetitive UBs.