lets face it....the game isnt very good....

[Tapewormlondon]

You know I have sat on the fence since release but its time to make my self heard. Maybe you wont hear me 2K/ Fireaxis but i want to put it down anyway.

This game is average. Its not awful, its not crap.....ts just not good. You had potential here to turn every lifelong fan into a static buyer of your franchise for ever. And following Civ4 that shouldnt have been hard.

I dont know how (actually I do, but its been said before) but im bored with this game, have been after 2 play throughs (although i sterched to 6 before writing this - bought game at release). Im writing this off the back of 4 other threads on games that have (I Feel) catered for a more casual crowd and destroyed themselves in the long run.

Why?? you especially will not have repeat buyers from your new "casual crowd" the game was buggy and lets not mince words.....unfinished.

I was a lifelong Civ fan. and i thank you for one thing. the boredom of civ5 made me find Paradox games........WOW just WOW. Merry Xmas dear Civ I hope you find peace.

 

[Ran88dom99]

You don't play mods?

 

[The Mad Russian]

I fled to Paradox games myself because of this game, mainly Europa Universalis III. I've been playing Civ since Civ III and this game has become a joke. After 14 months or so since it's release, many bugs have STILL not been fixed. The AI STILL is a complete joke, and even though I don't care, MP is STILL having problems. They're too busy dealing with the idiotic facebook game and other channels to funnel CiV through, but they don't realize they are alienating the people that have been with this series for so long.

If it wasn't for CivNIGHTS, I'd be done with this game, and probably the series for good.

OK, enough talk. I have to get back to forming Germany as Prussia in EUIII. To me, that game buries this one in every facet, feature and in gameplay.

-Mark

 

[Derpy Hooves]

Like I just wrote down somewhere else, CiV is basically the Phantom Menace, only now do I realise how godamn apt that description was.

 

[oPunchDrunko]

Don't know what you guys are talking about. I've had this game since release and I still enjoy playing it. Mods really increase the enjoyment of the game for me.

 

[Skwink]

Don't know what you guys are talking about. I've had this game since release and I still enjoy playing it. Mods really increase the enjoyment of the game for me.

Yeah, I'm loving Civ V.

 

[Thormodr]

You know I have sat on the fence since release but its time to make my self heard. Maybe you wont hear me 2K/ Fireaxis but i want to put it down anyway.

This game is average. Its not awful, its not crap.....ts just not good. You had potential here to turn every lifelong fan into a static buyer of your franchise for ever. And following Civ4 that shouldnt have been hard.

I dont know how (actually I do, but its been said before) but im bored with this game, have been after 2 play throughs (although i sterched to 6 before writing this - bought game at release). Im writing this off the back of 4 other threads on games that have (I Feel) catered for a more casual crowd and destroyed themselves in the long run.

Why?? you especially will not have repeat buyers from your new "casual crowd" the game was buggy and lets not mince words.....unfinished.

I was a lifelong Civ fan. and i thank you for one thing. the boredom of civ5 made me find Paradox games........WOW just WOW. Merry Xmas dear Civ I hope you find peace.

Good post. I think there were some very bad decisions made that potentially have totally derailed if not destroyed this franchise.

I also agree that Firaxis' stumbles have been Paradox's gains. If you want to see how different the companies operate consider how little real information we were getting about Civilization 5 before it's release and contrast that with the upcoming Crusader Kings II. There are some very good Let's Plays up on You Tube as we speak and the game won't even be released until February. A plethora of developer diaries and video developer diaries as well. Firaxis treated Civilization 5 like a state secret in comparison.

I do hope that Firaxis can learn from this debacle and turn things around somehow. However, with Christoph Hartmann being in charge and Strategy games apparently not being contemporary, I have my doubts.

 

[anandus]

I fled to Paradox games myself because of this game, mainly Europa Universalis III. I've been playing Civ since Civ III and this game has become a joke.

I've been playing Civ since Civ 1, put hundreds if not thousands of hours in Civ 3 and Civ 4, and a few hundred in Civ 5. I do love it, I think it's a great game in itself.
Both in singleplayer and definitely in multiplayer I (and my friends, all also Civ-veterans since the first game) really enjoy the game.

Games like EU3, Victoria, etc, which I also play are very good but wholly different than Civ-games. Yes, they are strategy games. Yes, they are historic games and in a way, yes, they are turn based games (sort of), but they are very limited in timescope and will not give you the creative possibilities Civ give you.
Great games, but not comparable.

And if you thought Civ 5 was buggy on release, then nobody has played a Paradox-game on release, then?
(Especially Sword of the Stars 2, I even asked for a refund on that, first time in my life!).
A buggy releasy with a Paradox-game is sort of the norm Mind you, not slagging off Paradox, I love them as a developer and publisher!

 

[apocalypse105]

Don't know what you guys are talking about. I've had this game since release and I still enjoy playing it. Mods really increase the enjoyment of the game for me.

I thinx you can compare civ with c&c generals zero hour

This game was from finished there where hidden AI codes that wheren't used in the game.

But it was a succes because it was easy to mod this game.

 

[KevinMiles90000]

Thinking back on civ 4 and how terrain was almost completely meaningless for warfare, civ 5 has made an incredible stride in that direction.

 

[Ruler]

Good successor in my opinion. Civ series are almost unique so they can release some average/unfinished stuff. We need competitor, but question is if theres enough Civ players around the world or no I guess its 5+ mill.

 

[PhilBowles]

I've been playing Civ since Civ 1, put hundreds if not thousands of hours in Civ 3 and Civ 4, and a few hundred in Civ 5. I do love it, I think it's a great game in itself.
Both in singleplayer and definitely in multiplayer I (and my friends, all also Civ-veterans since the first game) really enjoy the game.

Games like EU3, Victoria, etc, which I also play are very good but wholly different than Civ-games. Yes, they are strategy games. Yes, they are historic games and in a way, yes, they are turn based games (sort of), but they are very limited in timescope and will not give you the creative possibilities Civ give you.

There's a phenomenon I've noticed with people 'driven' to these games by disappointment with Civ V that banks heavily on nostalgia - people will say "I found this and, look, it's much more detailed/realistic than Civ V", when it's equally true that games like EU III and Total War are also much more detailed and realistic than Civs I through IV, and all the arguments people offer for preferring that game to Civ V would apply to any other Civ game as well.

As for Civ V, I can sympathise with people's frustration about both the slow pace of updates and the bad AI. Mechanically the game is very good and very much in the vein of its predecessors, but the diplomatic AI in particular tends to force particular strategies to placate opposing civs, which can be frustrating and does lead to repetitive games.

 

[The_J]

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