LK18 - China, mod, low corruption.

[smegged]

Inherited - boy the world has changed since I last came to power. I move much of our fully healthy cav into place.

Aztecs and India sign MPP. Our Cavalry stack'o'doom is attacked by a Russian cav. The Cav takes one damage. Our elite cav takes two, down to three. We knock another hp off the enemy cav. Another hp off our cav. Another hp off our Cav! We are down to one hp! The enemy cav dies! "You have produced a great leader - Ghengis Khan" - WOOHOO.

Leader sent to Athens to rush fp. Germany declares war on us. I don't like it that a ROP was broken. But such is life. Nobody will make an ROP with us without US paying an arm and a leg. And we are HUGE.

Rome and France sing a mil alliance vs us! Both declare war on us :/

I've taken Kiev and Razed Severastapol or whatever it's name is.

We get peace with the Americans for Denvir + their treasury (10 gold). We make peace with France for 80 gold.

A Japanese cav army attacked Nagasaki. It gets the treatment. We only lost one cav taking it (and the rifle it killed on it's turn).

Joanie will give us Ivory for Dyes Wines and Silks! Since we have nothing better for the lux to do, we'll take it! I make Peace with India for 40 gold.

Overall, I tried to consolidate as much as possible, and to finish off Russia. There is still a few cities left in Russia, but that is because Blitzing a country without railroads sucks .

We have Hoover Well, we have a leader waiting to rush the Toe next turn, which means we will have Hoover anyway . (I could have possibly gotten more leaders on my turn, but I didn't want to risk not having one when hoover came along. Don't give any tech out now. It is the time for us to take a lead techwise.

You will see that there is a Russian town up north that has merely a spearman in it. PHEAR DA SPEAR! That sole guy forced an ELITE cav to retreat without taking a SCRATCH. Notice that the town is surrounded in many many men, ready to strike next turn. We have heaps of cannons that are inneffective because our cav leave them behind . We are at war with half of the world, which suits us fine, as it keeps them in communism, and we are stuck in Monarchy anyway. We might as well make use of the bloodbath

The city with the Iron Works will be a good hoover builder, but for the moment it's cranking one cav/turn. Keep it that way. Tanks are still a long way off yet, and Cav are THE best unit for their age (non-unique unit that is).

EDIT: There was one thing I forgot to mention all throughout my report MMMMMMMMOW. (Much much much much much much much movement of workers.)

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by smegged
We have Hoover Well, we have a leader waiting to rush the Toe next turn, which means we will have Hoover anyway . (I could have possibly gotten more leaders on my turn, but I didn't want to risk not having one when hoover came along. Don't give any tech out now. It is the time for us to take a lead techwise.

The city with the Iron Works will be a good hoover builder, but for the moment it's cranking one cav/turn. Keep it that way. Tanks are still a long way off yet, and Cav are THE best unit for their age (non-unique unit that is).

[dance]2 leaders in a short time
I agree, rushing ToE will be great.
Finally, a tech lead. Only trouble - can we hold it stuck in Monarchy?

LeeKendter (on deck)
Dark Sheer
smegged
Thiazi (playing) <<<<<

Goals - FINISH Russia.
From there?? - We have got to get out of constant war mode.
Calvalry will be useless soon - depending when replacable parts arrive.

Fighting the other continent would be a joke.

 

[Dark Sheer]

Taking the whole of the other continent might not be possible. BUT.....taking a few german towns to set as a future beachhead is a possibility since all our Cavalries will be pretty useless after Russia is gone.

 

[LKendter]

Well we also have the war with Japan.

That is the probably the other target -
I don't see Calvary staying usefull THAT long.

 

[smegged]

At the moment, Germany WILL NOT talk to us. So it does look like we are stuck in war (and therefore Monarchy for quite some time). I do not reccomend going into wartime mobilisation, as that will be worse for us than anything else one could conceive of (short of giving away all our cities) .

 

[LKendter]

LeeKendter (on deck)
Dark Sheer
smegged
Thiazi (playing) <<<<<
24 hour warning

 

[Thiazi]

Got it! Will post my turns shortly.

Edit: I will post things later in the day, the turns are taking longer than I expected and I need to work on a couple of projects.

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by smegged
At the moment, Germany WILL NOT talk to us. So it does look like we are stuck in war (and therefore Monarchy for quite some time). I do not reccomend going into wartime mobilisation, as that will be worse for us than anything else one could conceive of (short of giving away all our cities) .

I **SUFFERRED** with wartime mobilization once.
I agree - you can't rush temples in newly captured cities - something I feel is critical for reducing flip chances and border expansion - which is actually a powerful defense for keeping cities by keeping slower units away.

 

[Thiazi]

Just skip me for this round, I wont have time to finish my turns in the near future but hopefully, by midweek I will have some time. Sorry, for holding the game up.

-Thiazi

 

[smegged]

post what you've played at least. Please

 

[Thiazi]

1510: Research of Scientiffic Method is complete, we start on Atomic Theory. Theory of Evolution started but leader apparently could not rush it, it will now take 8 turns to complete.

1515: Dnepropetrovsk (sp?) captured. Lower science rate to zero, to maximize profit. I should have tried to get a lower end tech in there but the chance to maximize our fortunes was too tempting. The Aztrecs ask for an MPP and an insane amount of per turn gold, we give them a territory map. The Indians and Russians sign a trade embargo against us, its their loss.

1520: Kharkov captured.

1525: Kuibyshev (sp?) and Grozny captured. New Xinjian founded. France asks for an MPP and tech, we give them a territory map. India and Germany renew their trade embargo against us. America and Japan's trade embargo against us is over.

1530: Science back to 40% in an attempt to boost production, if this does not increase production or the allure of money is too great, then I would go back to stock piling money.

Russia is down to one city and we just need to send troops to finish them off. The war against Japan is at a stalemate and I have yet to deal with our foreign foes, I would be happy if they went into a corner and died.

 

[LKendter]

Pre-Turn (1535 AD)
GACK - Fire the animators.
Destroy Sevastopol - [dance] The Strong Russians are DEAD!
Cut science to ZERO.
I would LOVE to know what happenned with the Leader, we lost potential for more with that one

hanging around.
Trading - $1200 to Egypt for refining.
Peace treaty with ROME
Jerks in Germany still won't walk, I know what to do.
Persia dye price to $48/turn.
It continues Aztecs and France ally vs. Egypt.
Persia, Germany starts ToE!

1540 AD - Start mining plains, we have to many over food cities with lots of railroaded plains.
French Start ToE!
1545 AD - Japan stalemate is over - Izumo FALLS.
BITE ME BIG TIME - Japan has 1 lousy city left by Persia.
I ally with Persia for a mere $480 - I hope he kills Japan - we are stuck with Monarchy until then

- We are NOT getting a tech lead.
New Chengdu is formed - additional furs are secured.
India - ToE
1550 AD - Turn DEAD Germany units that landed by Kursk.
Our Newly elite Ironclad sinks one of the annoying German ships by Kursk.
Persia took Matsuyama, but Japan still live - WHERE?
Japan still won't talk.
ToE is completed - Atomic Theory for free, Electronics for Free.
Researching Replacable parts.
Hoover started.
1555 AD - Hoover is rushed.
The other foolish Germany ship by Kursk is dead.
America allies with Persia vs. Japan - to fight WHAT?
Science rate is cranked up big time.
1560 AD - Rome and France ally vs. Egypt.
I swear, I have never seen such a war happy mess
[dance] Persia and Egypt ally vs. Germany.
Unreal - Persia and Egypt ally vs. France.
A ton of WLTC days end - Why? - Up luxuries to 10%
1565 AD - Japan still a jerk.
Incense prices goes up - now have to give away furs also.
Peace treaty between France and Egypt.
1570 AD - New Hangchow is formed.
!Cheers! Peace treaty with the Mystery Japan !Cheers!
1575 AD - 1 ironclad heading back to port - after 3 dead German ships
1580 AD - Japan and Germany trade embargo us - WHO CARES?
Replaceable parts completed - going for Steel.
We have rubber.
1585 AD - Another weak landing on the Kursk island results in 2 dead units, 1 dead ship - all

German.
I don't blink at $1360 + $1200 + $140 in upgrade costs.
I buy Sanitation for a meer $300.
1590 AD - Get to hit 'f' quite a bit.
Avaris (German) is taken.
Turn on America - Attack St. Louis - Get another leader -
Hmmm.... Guess it pay to send 100% elite Calvary.
The problem, how to use him?
St. Louis then falls.
India and Persia sign an alliance against the vapor enemy - Japan.
Rome and France sign an alliance against Persia - Kiss Rome goodbye.
1595 AD - Detroit falls - America is dead


Summary - 2 dead weak countries, Japan all but dead.
Germany will talk - I didn't make peace, for me that is an instant revolution to Democracy.
I hate to start the next player in Anarchy.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/LK18-1060AD.zip

LeeKendter
Dark Sheer (playing) <<<<<
smegged (on deck)
Thiazi

 

[smegged]

Are you sure that is the right save file? It looks like it was one from a while ago.

 

[Dark Sheer]

The correct link to the savegame should be:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/LK18-1595_AD.zip

I will get the game once I get home this evening.

 

[smegged]

But I recon that we should take out Egypt and Japan before we go to world peace. That way, we have the WHOLE continent to ourselves . All we would have to worry about defensively then is a naval invasion, which is NOT going to happen.

Cavalry do not become obselete until tanks. And even then, they serve to remove any wounded infantry/rifles. For a country that doesn't have rubber, Cav are just as deadly as ever. They can also blitz very well.

 

[LKendter]

Well Japan **IS** gone -
All they have is a mystery city somewhere -
Or they have a settler in a ship somewhere.

However, they are NOT on our continent -
forget Japan.

As for Egypt - well, I don't think we will win by domination...
We have enough cities for SpaceRace...
DarkSheer call, but we would need to build a few more Calvary!


The link, well I shouldn't play that late, DUH!

 

[smegged]

We can choose our victory style here I think. We have the potential and power to take out any other civ on the planet. However, I think (personal opinion) taking Cleo and holding our continent may be the order of the day.

btw, it's cavalry, Calvary is supposed to be the place where Jesus died

 

[Dark Sheer]

1595AD(0) - Pre-turn. Peace Treaty with Germany and immediate revolution for the Chinese people.
1600AD(1) - Railroad frenzy.
1605AD(2) - Railroad frenzy & chasing pollution. Persian demand fur and we said NO! Persian declare war on us. :/
1610AD(3) - Railroad frenzy. Signed military alliance with French & Germany against Persia. India & Persia alliance against Rome. Germany & India against Japan.
1615AD(4) - Railroad frenzy & chasing pollution.
1620AD(5) - Railroad frenzy & chasing pollution. Aztec and India alliance against Japan. Aztec & Egypt signed Peace Treaty.
1625AD(6) - Railroad frenzy & chasing pollution. Egypt & Persia alliance against us. Looks like we need to fight Egyptian after all. Egypt & German signed peace treaty. Egyptian captured Izumo. We lost a number of workers along the border with Egyptian.
1630AD(7) - Democratic China is formed. Pi-Ramesses liberated. Loosing 3 Cavalry in the process. Heliopolis liberated and we lost another 2 Cavalry. Buffalo captured with no lost. Seattle liberated. New Orlean liberated. Indian destroyed the Romans.
1635AD(8) - Railroad frenzy and minor skirmishes.
1640AD(9) - Railroad frenzy and various skirmishes. Chicago liberated.
1645AD(10) - Hieraconpolis liberated.


I have only played 10 turns as the last SG (PLXI) took its toll on me. The war is pretty tough going as Egyptian now has infantry. There is a Leader in Beijing which I am leaving to the next player. I have gotten 2 Leader and utilised 2 Leader to hurry improvement as there is nothing to rush in the immediate future and since we still have alot of Elite Cavalry, chances of getting more Leaders are pretty high.

Here is the savegame.

 

[TheWatcher]

Cavalry vs. Infantry - OUCH!

How long to tanks?

 

[LKendter]

LeeKendter
Dark Sheer
smegged (playing)
Thiazi (on deck)


OK, smegged, you get your wish.
You may kill egypt.

However, please don't start another revolution back to Monarchy.
We are plenty cash rich, and can afford to increase luxuries.