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[Stella]

I'm currently playing a Prince game on Pangea, and I'm in a bit of a jam. Every Civ in the game converted to Hinduism, including me, and everybody loves everybody. I barely got 5 cities up before I was boxed in by Bismark and Hammurabi, and I'm currently neck and neck in the tech race with the tech-monster and Hinduism founder Mansu Masa who has a larger population than me and is on the other side of the map. He just won the head seat in the Apostolic Palace, but I don't believe he has the votes to win the game that way just yet. I just won the Liberalism race against him by a hair. No civ is below 'Pleased' with any other civ, and I'm wondering what I can do from here.

I could continue along the same course and hope I can gain the tech lead for a space race win, or I suppose I could go for a culture win although I haven't really been planning for it and wouldn't really know where to begin as I've never played that way. I managed to found Taoism so I'm thinking I could build a bunch of missionaries and try to convert my neighboring civs to it so I could invade them without penalty. Never really tried that before but it sounds fun. Think it would work and would you try it?

 

[AlienSexFilth]

pick 2 AIs that are good friends and spam them with Taoism. make them convert, then attack and then make everybody attack them as well. that should screw up everyone's tech rate and you might get a chance to come on top.

That is why I never play Pangaia btw :-D

 

[Gwynnja]

Research techs that the AI ignores. Bismarck and Mansa can be bribed into war at pleased. Who is the 5th civ? This is a good opportunity to work on your diplo and tech paths.

 

[nbcman]

pick 2 AIs that are good friends and spam them with Taoism. make them convert, then attack and then make everybody attack them as well. that should screw up everyone's tech rate and you might get a chance to come on top.

That is why I never play Pangaia btw :-D

I believe that to force a religion change your civ must have that religion as your state religion. It would be better to try to bribe either Mansa or Bismark into war as Gwynnja has suggested.

 

[amit9up]

Change your religion and then next turn change 2-3 Civs religion (choose the powerful ones), Or you can use espionage to change religions

 

[Kevie]

i agree with others; spam tao, and then spy revolt a city to tao, and war on them! (with other ai's of course)

 

[Whiskey_Lord]

Remember not to convert their cities manually. I mean, build the missionaries and gift them to your target neighbors so you have a much better chance of spreading it faster.

 

[Banana Bunny]

Drop the tech rate, increase espionage, steal steal and steal.

 

[Stella]

Thanks for the replies guys...

As fun as it would have been to do the espionage thing (never really fooled with it before), it wasn't really needed. Mansa founded Islam, promptly converted, and the whole world dogpiled him while I gained the tech lead and cruised to a space race win.

Before Mansa suicided himself, I tried to ask my 2 neighbors to convert to Tao but neither would do it because they didn't like me enough. The 'close borders spark tensions' thing brought me down to 'pleased' with them and I guess you have to have them at friendly before they'll agree.

Anyway, while I have a thread going, I'm thinking about changing maps from Pangea. I've only played maybe 4-5 games to completion and all of them have been on Pangea, partly because the friend who got me into the game only plays Pangea and party because I think I would be confused/overwhelmed by naval warfare. I can barely wrap my head around the land-based stuff for now.

But Pangea does get a bit crowded and this isn't the first time I've been in a situation like this. Anyone have suggestions for a better map to play on?

 

[AlienSexFilth]

I love the Terra maps... Pre Astronomy it's practically a pangaia with a small chance to have some small island/peninsulla available to settle on (or make a colony) while post Astronomy you have a chance to claim a whole new world to yourself (which rocks :-D). I think it's the next step before continents :-D

 

[burly]

Remember not to convert their cities manually. I mean, build the missionaries and gift them to your target neighbors so you have a much better chance of spreading it faster.

Why is that? What's the difference?

 

[Cam_H]

Why is that? What's the difference?

In

Your Missionary Fails to Spread Religion, VoiceOfUnreason provides percentages for your own and opponents' missionaries relative to the number of existing religions in the target city. In a nutshell; if a Missionary belongs to the same tribe as the target city, the percentage of success will be greater in spreading that religion.

 

[CossackProblem]

I had a game similar to this where the other continent was bananas for each other until the U.N. motioned for free religion and about one or two turns later their continent imploded.

A civ suiciding by taking a religion no one else has is always an amusing out, tho..

 

[Firestorm94]

I had a game similar to this where the other continent was bananas for each other until the U.N. motioned for free religion and about one or two turns later their continent imploded.

A civ suiciding by taking a religion no one else has is always an amusing out, tho..

wow, I'd love to have a game like that.

To the OP, that's some really good luck right there. Since MM's favorite religion is Islam, he converted and was destroyed. Just so awesome.

 

[beestar]

wow, I'd love to have a game like that.

To the OP, that's some really good luck right there. Since MM's favorite religion is Islam, he converted and was destroyed. Just so awesome.

Leaders have favourite civics, but I didn't think they had preferred religions.

 

[nbcman]

@ beestar

Many leaders have favorite religions. Check out dj_anion's reference guide for more info.

Also, leaders will tend to convert to religions that they have founded.