MM cities:
Nidros: work farm instead of plains to grow in 2 turns, need to chop out those forests and chain farm to Horse Town
Jeiling: trading post into forge (possible Moai?)
still need a few more workers up north, especially after Izzy is gone.
Well, I MM'd Nidaros as Cripp indicated. Forgot, however, to MM it again back after the growth. Sorry, I'm a poor micromanager. Rather I'm lazy. I can do it well, but often forget what I've set forth. Especially in war. (More on that later.)
Regarding the farm chain to Horse Town, I did clear the forest, but I'm not seeing an irrigation path that makes sense. We'd have to either rip up a mine on iron, a camp on beavers, or any of several options for taking out villages. This for a couple of plots in horse town that already have cottages on them? Someone smarter than me show me the path and the wisdom, please.
Anyhow, on to the game. Autolog dump is below in the spoiler, but the highlights are that are economy went south after the war declaration and that I lost a horse archer and chariot on a pillaging run. Otherwise...
I declared on turn 2
And was promptly declared upon turn 3
With that, I decided that an ally would probably be best. Once Biz declared on us, Sully went down to cautious with Biz and the price dropped.
He wouldn't take any less. I tried. Still, this would keep Biz from dumping a huge stack on our doorstep.
The Battle of Cordoba
While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 81.1%) While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 91.6%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Trebuchet loses to Spanish Longbowman (2.76/6) (Prob Victory: 91.6%) While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, War Elephant (5.44/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%) While attacking, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
This generated a great general
My vote is to either make a great medic of one of the warriors/archers or to hold on to him until we can build an academy in Nidaros. I've left him in Upsala.
Meanwhile, Germany managed to field a respectable army and sent him up to Upsala. It forced me to whip a longbow, promote two warriors to pikemen, and give odd promotions, but otherwise, over a couple of turns, Biz mourns his stack.
While attacking, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 96.4%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (8.00/8) defeats German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 96.4%)
While defending in Viking territory at Haithabu, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While defending in Viking territory at Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (3.66/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
While attacking, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates German Archer (Prob Victory: 98.7%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (5.76/8) defeats German Archer (Prob Victory: 98.7%) While attacking, Pikeman decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, Pikeman (4.32/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) While attacking, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (4.62/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%)
While attacking, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 89.8%) While attacking in Viking territory near Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (2.82/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 89.8%)
While attacking, Pikeman decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 90.3%) While attacking in Viking territory at Birka, Pikeman (3.48/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 90.3%)
Biz will now take peace but he'll only give gold and a map. I recommend we hold out for a while. He's not going to menace us with Ottoman troops in his territory. (Which I've seen he has.)
The Battle of Madrid
This was much quicker than expected. THanks to my predecessors for giving me so much siege. City defenses went down in one turn, with two trebs to spare. Still, I waited for full strength. Here's the setup.
While attacking, Trebuchet 1 (Haithabu) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 21.1%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Trebuchet 1 (Haithabu) loses to Spanish Longbowman (4.08/6) (Prob Victory: 21.1%) While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 52.1%) While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 57.4%) While attacking, Trebuchet 3 (Uppsala) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 88.1%) While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 93.7%) While attacking, Trebuchet 2 (Birka) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Trebuchet 2 (Birka) loses to Spanish War Elephant (2.00/8) (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking, Catapult 1 (Nidaros) (Catapult) escapes from Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 75.8%) While attacking, Catapult 2 (Horse Town) (Catapult) decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (5.44/8) defeats Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker (4.16/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker 1 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Axeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 1 (Nidaros) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Axeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.9%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.9%) While attacking, War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker 2 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 2 (Nidaros) (6.88/8) defeats Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker 3 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 3 (Nidaros) (7.04/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
I kept Madrid, but it came with no buildings.
Someone with a better knowledge of the code needs to explain to me how that happened. First, I was certain that a shrine couldn't get destroyed when you take over a city. Second, I know Izzy must have built all sorts of buildings here. Can they all get destroyed???
Anyhow, the only other thing worth mentioning is that I calculated that my spy would arrive too late to help with the Spanish, so I sent him to Germany, where he might make a difference.
Autolog dump in spoiler
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------------------------------------------------ Turn 235 (900 AD) [05-Jul-2010 10:27:58] Uppsala begins: Longbowman (19 turns) Jelling begins: Trading Post (30 turns) 80% Research: 222 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 20% Gold: -46 per turn, 521 in the bank
After End Turn: A Town was built near Uppsala GP finishes: Trading Post
Turn 236 (910 AD) [05-Jul-2010 10:31:42] GP begins: Trireme (19 turns) LP1 Ragnar (Vikings) declares war on Isabella (Spain) While attacking, Horse Archer 1 (Horse Town) (Horse Archer) decimates Spanish Warrior (Prob Victory: 96.9%) While attacking in Viking territory near Haithabu, Horse Archer 1 (Horse Town) (5.10/6) defeats Spanish Warrior (Prob Victory: 96.9%) 70% Research: 194 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 30% Gold: -34 per turn, 475 in the bank
After End Turn: Uppsala finishes: Longbowman A Hamlet was built near Horse Town
Other Player Actions: Bismarck (Germany) declares war on LP1 Ragnar (Vikings) Attitude Change: Bismarck (Germany) towards LP1 Ragnar (Vikings), from 'Pleased' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards LP1 Ragnar (Vikings), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Isabella (Spain) towards LP1 Ragnar (Vikings), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Turn 237 (920 AD) [05-Jul-2010 10:43:29] Tech traded to Suleiman (Ottomans): Code of Laws Tech traded to Suleiman (Ottomans): Theology Suleiman (Ottomans) declares war on Bismarck (Germany) Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) promoted: City Raider I Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) promoted: City Raider II Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I Trebuchet promoted: City Raider II War Elephant promoted: Combat I While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 81.1%) Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I Trebuchet promoted: City Raider II While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 91.6%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Trebuchet loses to Spanish Longbowman (2.76/6) (Prob Victory: 91.6%) Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I Trebuchet promoted: City Raider II While attacking, Trebuchet escapes from Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) War Elephant promoted: Combat II While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, War Elephant (5.44/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 99.8%) While attacking, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Cordoba, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Captured Cordoba (Isabella) Razed Cordoba Cordoba lost 50% Research: 129 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 50% Gold: -1 per turn, 526 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Trebuchet Horse Town finishes: War Elephant
Other Player Actions: While defending in Spanish territory near Birka, Horse Archer 1 (Horse Town) loses to Spanish Horse Archer (3.84/6) (Prob Victory: 23.1%) While defending in Spanish territory near Birka, Chariot 2 (Horse Town) loses to Spanish War Elephant (8.00/8) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) Attitude Change: Bismarck (Germany) towards Suleiman (Ottomans), from 'Pleased' to 'Annoyed' Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards LP1 Ragnar (Vikings), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased' Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards Bismarck (Germany), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Isabella (Spain) towards LP1 Ragnar (Vikings), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious' Civics Change: Suleiman(Ottomans) from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'
Turn 238 (930 AD) [05-Jul-2010 10:55:11] Nidaros begins: Spy (2 turns) Horse Town begins: Longbowman (5 turns) Chariot 1 (Bjørgvin) (Chariot) promoted: Combat I A Cottage was built near Birka 50% Research: 129 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 50% Gold: -3 per turn, 521 in the bank
After End Turn: Horse Town finishes: Longbowman
Turn 239 (940 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:01:19] Horse Town begins: Spy (4 turns) Horse Town begins: Trireme (5 turns) A Hamlet was destroyed by Viking Chariot 1 (Bjørgvin) (Chariot) (23 gold) 50% Research: 130 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 50% Gold: -4 per turn, 541 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Spy A Hamlet was built near Haithabu Birka finishes: Trebuchet
Turn 240 (950 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:05:29] Nidaros begins: Pikeman (3 turns) Birka begins: Library (34 turns) A Town near Madrid was destroyed by Viking Chariot 1 (Bjørgvin) (Chariot) (7 gold) 50% Research: 132 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 50% Gold: -5 per turn, 544 in the bank
After End Turn: Haithabu finishes: Crossbowman A Hamlet was built near Birka Horse Town finishes: Trireme
Other Player Actions: Civics Change: Isabella(Spain) from 'Caste System' to 'Slavery'
Turn 241 (960 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:10:06] Haithabu begins: Longbowman (9 turns) Horse Town begins: War Elephant (6 turns) Crossbowman 1 (Haithabu) (Crossbowman) promoted: Shock Crossbowman 1 (Haithabu) (Crossbowman) promoted: Medic I A Town near Madrid was destroyed by Viking Chariot 1 (Bjørgvin) (Chariot) (43 gold) A Mine was built near GP 50% Research: 134 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 50% Gold: -8 per turn, 224 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Pikeman
Other Player Actions: A Cottage was built near Haithabu A Hamlet near Haithabu was destroyed by German Horse Archer A Cottage was destroyed near Haithabu A Cottage near Haithabu was destroyed by German Horse Archer A Farm was destroyed near Haithabu While defending in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (6.80/8) defeats Spanish Catapult (Prob Victory: 87.8%) Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards Bismarck (Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 242 (970 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:18:39] Nidaros begins: Berserker (3 turns) War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) promoted: Combat I War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) promoted: Shock While attacking, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 96.4%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (8.00/8) defeats German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 96.4%) Berserker promoted: Shock Berserker promoted: Cover Trireme 2 (Horse Town) (Trireme) promoted: Combat I A Village near Madrid was destroyed by Viking Chariot 1 (Bjørgvin) (Chariot) (28 gold) 40% Research: 102 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 60% Gold: 15 per turn, 20 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Berserker Haithabu finishes: Longbowman GP finishes: Trireme
Other Player Actions: While defending in Viking territory at Haithabu, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats German Swordsman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While defending in Viking territory at Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (3.66/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
Turn 243 (980 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:30:03] Nidaros begins: Pikeman (3 turns) Haithabu begins: Berserker (14 turns) GP begins: Forge (23 turns) While attacking, Trireme 2 (Horse Town) (Trireme) decimates Spanish Galley (Prob Victory: 88.8%) While attacking in Viking territory near Horse Town, Trireme 2 (Horse Town) (1.36/2) defeats Spanish Galley (Prob Victory: 88.8%) While attacking, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates German Archer (Prob Victory: 98.7%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, War Elephant 2 (Horse Town) (5.76/8) defeats German Archer (Prob Victory: 98.7%) While attacking, Pikeman decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, Pikeman (4.32/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) While attacking, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking in Viking territory at Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (4.62/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%) Longbowman 3 (Haithabu) (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison I Longbowman 3 (Haithabu) (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison II Pikeman promoted: Medic I Pikeman 1 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) promoted: Medic I 40% Research: 104 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 60% Gold: 22 per turn, 35 in the bank
Turn 244 (990 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:40:47] Longbowman 2 (Horse Town) (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison I Longbowman 2 (Horse Town) (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison II Archer promoted: City Garrison I Archer promoted: City Garrison I While attacking, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 89.8%) While attacking in Viking territory near Haithabu, Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (2.82/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 89.8%) Trebuchet 1 (Haithabu) (Trebuchet) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Trebuchet 1 (Haithabu) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 21.1%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Trebuchet 1 (Haithabu) loses to Spanish Longbowman (4.08/6) (Prob Victory: 21.1%) While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 52.1%) Catapult 1 (Nidaros) (Catapult) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 57.4%) Trebuchet 3 (Uppsala) (Trebuchet) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Trebuchet 3 (Uppsala) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 88.1%) Trebuchet promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Trebuchet decimates Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 93.7%) While attacking, Trebuchet 2 (Birka) (Trebuchet) escapes from Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Trebuchet 2 (Birka) loses to Spanish War Elephant (2.00/8) (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking, Catapult 1 (Nidaros) (Catapult) escapes from Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 75.8%) Catapult 2 (Horse Town) (Catapult) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Catapult 2 (Horse Town) (Catapult) decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 97.6%) While attacking, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 4 (Nidaros) (5.44/8) defeats Spanish Crossbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Berserker promoted: City Raider I Berserker promoted: City Raider II While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker (4.16/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Berserker promoted: City Raider I Berserker promoted: City Raider II While attacking, Berserker decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Berserker 1 (Nidaros) (Berserker) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Berserker 1 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Axeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 1 (Nidaros) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Axeman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) War Elephant promoted: Combat I War Elephant promoted: Combat II While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Longbowman (Prob Victory: 100.0%) War Elephant promoted: Combat I War Elephant promoted: Combat II While attacking, War Elephant decimates Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.9%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant (8.00/8) defeats Spanish Maceman (Prob Victory: 99.9%) War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) promoted: Combat I War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) promoted: Shock While attacking, War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (War Elephant) decimates Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, War Elephant 1 (Horse Town) (8.00/8) defeats Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Berserker 2 (Nidaros) (Berserker) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Berserker 2 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 2 (Nidaros) (6.88/8) defeats Spanish War Elephant (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Berserker 3 (Nidaros) (Berserker) promoted: City Raider I While attacking, Berserker 3 (Nidaros) (Berserker) decimates Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) While attacking in Spanish territory at Madrid, Berserker 3 (Nidaros) (7.04/8) defeats Spanish Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%) Captured Madrid (Isabella) Madrid begins: Granary (91 turns) 40% Research: 104 per turn 0% Espionage: 10 per turn 60% Gold: 9 per turn, 219 in the bank
Turn 245 (1000 AD) [05-Jul-2010 11:56:06] Warrior 2 (Nidaros) (Pikeman) promoted: Medic I While attacking, Pikeman decimates German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 90.3%) While attacking in Viking territory at Birka, Pikeman (3.48/6) defeats German Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 90.3%) A Cottage was built near Uppsala A Farm was built near Haithabu
I don't know who's leading this team anymore, but I'm too lazy to post a roster right now. Sorry.
I think I'm next..good set, Ol Bizmark didn't put up much of a fight!
Someone with a better knowledge of the code needs to explain to me how that happened. First, I was certain that a shrine couldn't get destroyed when you take over a city. Second, I know Izzy must have built all sorts of buildings here. Can they all get destroyed???
Just a ping, Cripp, to make sure you're still with us.
Roster:
Norvin_Green - on deck
Admiral Kutzov
Rex Tyrannus - just played
cripp7 - up
Oh, and I did look through the buildings xml. Any building with culture gets blown up immediately except world wonders and shrines, which always remain. So, Izzy did not have the shrine. She does have other holy cities, though. Maybe she burnt a prophet on one of them? Seems unlikely, but it also seems unlikely that she'd not have had a prophet yet. This is Izzy, right?
Not that this is a definitive answer but I took a look back at AK's save and Madrid is the Buddhist Holy city but Izzy hadn't built a shrine there yet. Once the dust settles we should try to accomplish that.
A few bersekers are still in the other cities, need to regroup stack with more trebs to go for Bismark. He has a big stack in Cologne, lots of phants/HAs/few cats
Can trade Otto Compass+330>Paper (or CS), would like to get Guilds, maybe a turn or 2 into it.
I was going to build a temple in GP farm to run a priest plus we can spread variable religions there for more temple (and more priests). Seeing as we have stone we can probably build Maoi there too.
I will probably play Sunday morning.
Yes or no to Taj?
Taj would be great, but I would suggest that we spend the golden age building grenadiers or using golden age gold on upgrading CR berserkers to grenadiers. So I guess my preference is to push up chemistry in the research order. I guess the problem is that we have no idea who on the other continent might be close to liberalism.
Switch Nidaros to Taj. MM tiles for 18 turns (down from 20). Uppsala hires 2 merchants and a scientist. Haithabu fires two scientists and begins an LB.
Turn 257
Roskilde completes stable and starts a market.
Turn 260
Make this deal mostly for the cash though harbors are nice.
GP > temple.
Turn 261
GP whips temple.
Suleiman asks for aid in his battle against the Germans. Not quite yet my friend. Monastery is whipped in Seville.
Turn 262
Jelling whips forge.
Turn 263
Education arrives. Slot in Lib though we are out of cash. Will alternate from 0% to 100% and stop it with 1 turn to go.
Turn 266
Haithabu starts a Uni.
Turn 267
Roskilde whips a market.
Nidaros can whip Taj but I'd rather see us go a little easy on the whip (Someone has a heavy hand) as we should grow into our cottages. We need to MM within 1 turn of Lib. It would also be great to get Literature to build the HE and NE. Currently we can see research for both our foes. Once whip unhappiness dies down in Uppsala I'd fire the specialists and hope GP Farm can pop us a priest. I started cottaging over workshops in Spanish territory especially Madrid. When we go for Germany we should head for Berlin as the Pyramids will allow us to go US or Police State as we see fit. I'd continue to build infra during our upcoming GAge.
Well, my set was really, really boring. No screenies. Sorry.
Basically, I MMed research until we were 3 beakers away from liberalism and switched over to gunpowder. That came in on turn 279 and I selected chemistry, though we have few enough beakers invested to switch.
I then MMed specialists, firing all of the specialists in Upsala, where we would have had another scientist in 20-something turns. I switched to GP, but we could only work one priest. Still, I fired the two scientists and hired an engineer because we were about 50% - 50% between prophet and scientist there.
As soon as I could, I shipped a Buddhist missionary over to GP and 2-pop whipped a temple. That will come in on the Admiral's first turn. Please set GP to work a second priest and any other non-scientist specialist right away. We should have a prophet in 20-ish turns barring very unlucky RNG.
Taj came in and I pretty much wasted the first half of our golden age on very little exciting.
Biz and Sullieman made peace on my second turn and our only spy was caught in Germany.
Other than that, it's just that stupid period where the only things workers can do is put a road on every last f---ing tile. Sigh.
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Logging by BUG Mod 4.3 [Build 2139] (BtS 3.13-3.19)
------------------------------------------------ Turn 270 (1250 AD) [13-Jul-2010 20:49:30] 100% Research: 423 per turn 0% Espionage: 12 per turn 0% Gold: -189 per turn, 281 in the bank
After End Turn: A Hamlet was built near Haithabu Birka finishes: Courthouse A Hamlet was built near Birka A Village was built near Birka Barcelona finishes: Granary
Other Player Actions: Suleiman (Ottomans) and Bismarck (Germany) have signed a peace treaty Attitude Change: Bismarck (Germany) towards Suleiman (Ottomans), from 'Furious' to 'Cautious' Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards Bismarck (Germany), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Turn 271 (1255 AD) [13-Jul-2010 20:49:33] Birka begins: Harbor (24 turns) Barcelona begins: Library (68 turns) A Cottage was built near Haithabu 0% Research: 11 per turn 0% Espionage: 14 per turn 100% Gold: 198 per turn, 92 in the bank
After End Turn: A Town was built near Uppsala A Village was built near Haithabu Madrid finishes: Courthouse
Turn 272 (1260 AD) [13-Jul-2010 20:57:12] Madrid begins: Forge (20 turns) A Cottage was built near Stuttgart A Cottage was built near Haithabu 100% Research: 439 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 0% Gold: -179 per turn, 290 in the bank
Turn 273 (1265 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:01:25] Research begun: Gunpowder (184 Turns) 0% Research: 11 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 100% Gold: 210 per turn, 111 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: The Taj Mahal A Hamlet was built near Uppsala A Hamlet was built near Haithabu A Town was built near Birka
Other Player Actions: Attitude Change: Suleiman (Ottomans) towards Bismarck (Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Turn 274 (1270 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:07:00] 60% Research: 340 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 40% Gold: 23 per turn, 321 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Trebuchet Horse Town begins: Trebuchet (6 turns) Horse Town finishes: Trebuchet
Turn 275 (1275 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:16:11] Nidaros begins: Buddhist Missionary (2 turns) 60% Research: 344 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 40% Gold: 22 per turn, 344 in the bank
After End Turn: A Hamlet was built near Haithabu
Turn 276 (1280 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:18:30] 60% Research: 356 per turn 0% Espionage: 16 per turn 40% Gold: 29 per turn, 366 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Buddhist Missionary Jelling finishes: Courthouse
Turn 277 (1285 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:19:30] Nidaros begins: Berserker (3 turns) Jelling begins: Berserker (9 turns) A Cottage was built near Birka 60% Research: 359 per turn 0% Espionage: 18 per turn 40% Gold: 35 per turn, 395 in the bank
After End Turn: A Hamlet was built near Haithabu Roskilde finishes: Library
Turn 278 (1290 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:21:23] Roskilde begins: Berserker (7 turns) 60% Research: 370 per turn 0% Espionage: 18 per turn 40% Gold: 32 per turn, 430 in the bank
After End Turn: Nidaros finishes: Berserker A Village was built near Izmir A Village was built near Roskilde Seville finishes: Market
Turn 279 (1295 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:23:04] Nidaros begins: Trebuchet (3 turns) Seville begins: Courthouse (11 turns) GP begins: Buddhist Temple (10 turns) 60% Research: 378 per turn 0% Espionage: 18 per turn 40% Gold: 37 per turn, 462 in the bank
After End Turn: Tech research finished: Gunpowder Horse Town begins: Trebuchet (6 turns) Horse Town finishes: Trebuchet
Turn 280 (1300 AD) [13-Jul-2010 21:26:08] Research begun: Chemistry (9 Turns) A Workshop was built near Seville A Workshop was built near GP
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into forge (possible Moai?)
is stripped out from buildings.
, ok I'll wrap up Izzy and post today.
to 0%
