ls612's C2C Units

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Walker Artillery
Graphic: (See Above)
Icon: (See Above)
Type: Siege Unit
Strength: 160
Movement: 3
Cost: 1300
Req Tech: Super Strong Alloys AND Warmachines
Req Resource: Semiconductors AND Titanium OR Nanotubes
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • This Unit is Tradable
  • Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
  • Maximum 90% Damage to Enemy Upon Attack
  • Causes Collateral Damage (Max 70% of 15 Units)
  • Immune to Collateral Damage from Siege Units
  • +50% vs Siege Units
  • Can Perform Ranged Attacks
  • Range 2
  • Accuracy 90
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-30%/turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Costs 10 Extra :gold:
  • Starts with Rugged III.
 
Hydromancerx said:
Hows this sound?

Walker Artillery
Graphic: (See Above)
Icon: (See Above)
Type: Siege Unit
Strength: 160
Movement: 3
Cost: 1300
Req Tech: Super Strong Alloys AND Warmachines
Req Resource: Semiconductors AND Titanium OR Nanotubes
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • This Unit is Tradable
  • Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
  • Maximum 90% Damage to Enemy Upon Attack
  • Causes Collateral Damage (Max 70% of 15 Units)
  • Immune to Collateral Damage from Siege Units
  • +50% vs Siege Units
  • Can Perform Ranged Attacks
  • Range 2
  • Accuracy 90
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-30%/turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Costs 10 Extra :gold:
  • Starts with Rugged III.
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Range should be 3, the NLOS cannon has a range of 2 and can upgrade to the Levitation Arty, which also has a range of 2. The main drawback I want for the Hover units is that they are less strong/have less range than their normal counterparts. So, The Walker Artillery should have a range of 3. Otherwise, it looks good, although I'm sad it has no animation.:(
 
So I am looking at the Walker Robots and this is their stats ...

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Assault Droid
Type: Robot
Strength: 130
Movement: 2
Cost: 1100
Req Tech: Advanced Computers
Req Resource: Semiconductors AND Titanium OR Nanotubes
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • This Unit is Tradable
  • Ignores Terrain Movement Costs
  • Causes Collateral Damage (Max 70% of 8 Units)
  • Immune to Collateral Damage from Siege Units
  • +25% vs City Attack
  • Can Perform Ranged Attacks
  • Range 2
  • Accuracy 80
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-30%/turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Costs 5 Extra :gold:

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Siege Droid
Type: Robot
Strength: 175
Movement: 2
Cost: 1600
Req Tech: Superstrong Alloys
Req Resource: Semiconductors AND Titanium OR Nanotubes
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • This Unit is Tradable
  • Doesn't Receive Defense Bonuses
  • Ignores Terrain Movement Costs
  • Causes Collateral Damage (Max 85% of 8 Units)
  • Immune to Collateral Damage from Siege Units
  • +25% vs City Attack
  • +25% vs Hill Attack
  • Can Perform Ranged Attacks
  • Range 2
  • Accuracy 90
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-40%/turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Costs 5 Extra :gold:

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Where do you think The Walker Artillery should fir in and what stats should be changed? Seems like the Assault Droid should upgrade into the Siege Droid.
 
oh snap, i better start adding the new TECHS!

-Remember..I moved Warmachines days ago alot closer..to x86 (before Advanced computers)
 
And for refence here is the NLOS Artillery stats.

NLOS Artillery
Type: Siege Unit
Strength: 90
Movement: 3
Cost: 820
Req Tech: Micromecanics
Req Resource: Oil Products
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • This Unit is Tradable
  • Doesn't Receive Defensive Bonuses
  • Maximum 90% Damage to Enemy Upon Attack
  • Causes Collateral Damage (Max 90% of 10 Units)
  • Immune to Collateral Damage from Siege Units
  • +50% vs Siege Units
  • Can Perform Ranged Attacks
  • Range 2
  • Accuracy 90
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-26%/turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Costs 1 Extra :gold:

I think this probably should cost more gold per turn and the Walker Mech along with the greater range should probably have better Collateral Damage.

Also I think the resource requirements for the NLOS Artillery should be changed to say ...

Req Resource: Titanium AND (Oil Products OR Biofuel)

If not titanium then at least the Oil Products OR Biofuel as a choice.
 
MrAzure said:
oh snap, i better start adding the new TECHS!

-Remember..I moved Warmachines days ago alot closer..to x86 (before Advanced computers)
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- NLOS Artillery (Micromecanics)
- Assault Droid (Advanced Computers)
- Siege Droid (Superstrong Alloys)

Have all been in the mod since the RoM/AND days. We also have some other futuristic units too. Such as ...

- Power Armored Infantry (Powered Exoskeleton)
- Anti-Personnel Mech (War Machines)
- Scout Mech (War Machnes)
- Assault Mech (Advanced Warmachines)
- Walker Droid (Cognitive Robotics)
- Sentinel (Terra Computer)
- Hi-Tech Robot (Sentient Earth)
- Nanite Cloud (Weather Control)
- Nanite Spy (Smart Dust)
- Nanite Swarm (Nanobiotics)
- Automatons (Bionics)
- Genetic Soldier (Regenerative Medicine)
- Super Soldier (Homo Superior)
- Canis Superior (Homo Superior)
- Cyborg (Cybergentics)
- Special Infantry (Invisibility)
- Walker Mech (Wireless Electricity)
- Tesla Infantry (Wireless Electricity)
- EMP SAM Infantry (Superstrong Alloys)
- Hi-Tech ACP (Military Robotics)
- Dropship (War Machines AND Skyroads AND Military Robotics)
- Fusion Transport (Invisibility AND Fusion)
- Fusion Battleship (Advanced War Machines)
- Fusion Destroyer (Invisibility AND Fusion)
- Fusion Cruiser (Warmachines AND Nanobiotics)
- Fusion Carrier (Megastructure Engineering AND Fusion)
- Fusion Submarine (Fusion AND Sonar AND Biomemetics)
- Lithorial Combat Ship (Military Robotics)
- Hi-Tech Sniper (Superstrong Alloys)
- Plasmathrower (Controlled Plasma)
- Orbital Bomber (Orbital Flight)
- Orbital Fighter (Orbital Flight)
- Hi-Tech Hovercraft (Military Robotics AND Skyroads)
- Plasma Armor (Controlled Plasma AND Railgun)
- Heavy Leviathan Tank (Skyroads)
- Dreadnaught Armor (Advanced Shielding)
- Thermobaric Tank (Rapid Prototyping)
- Stealth Armor (Biomemetics)

*Phew* I am probably forgetting some.
 
@Hydro:

OK, here are my thoughts on this issue. I think that the Siege and Assault droids should have their collateral damage nerfed, as that is more the realm of the artillery. Also, why does the Assault Droid not upgrade to the Siege Droid? It would seem like the logical path to me for the Assault mech.

The NLOS can get 5 :gold: extra cost, same as the Hover Arty. The NLOS should require Oil Products/Biofuel, but later units should not, as they will be using Fusion power mostly. Does this all sound OK?
 
You would have to ask Zappra and/or Afforess why since one of them added most of units we have. Its only recently that we have added new units like the culture units and the ones you have been adding.

Its our mod now so we can tweak and chnage any of those units however we want. That includes making them fit out upgrade tree and tech tree and even resources.

For isntance the Flamethrower I think was a stand alone unit back in the day. Then it was removed and then put back in. Now it is in a line of units thanks to your help.

We should really focus on these Robots and Assault Mechs ...

Assault Mechs
- Assault Mech
- Power Armored Infantry
- Anti-Personnel Mech
- Scout Mech

Robots
- Walker Droid
- Assault Droid
- Siege Droid
- Hi-Tech Robot
- Sentinel

These units do not upgrade nor have anything upgrade to them. We need to figure out where they should fit in and what stat changes we need to do to them.

ls612 said:
The NLOS can get 5 :gold: extra cost, same as the Hover Arty. The NLOS should require Oil Products/Biofuel, but later units should not, as they will be using Fusion power mostly. Does this all sound OK?
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Sounds good. However it got me thinking, perhaps we should make a new resource called like "Fusion Core" or something for all the fusion powered units.
 
@ls612

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Here is a better model for the Levitation Artillery. I merged the NLOS Cannon top with the Heavy Levitation Tank bottom. I think they merge surprisingly well. I also provided a button/icon for it too.
 
@Hydro:

Those models look very nice! One question though, did that tool I linked to help you to figure out animations? It would be nice not to have to add more units without animations, as then they look odd to those of us who use the animations ingame.

I like the idea of a Fusion Core resource, it should require a chain of a few buildings.
 
Hydromancerx said:
@ls612

Can you please move the "Heavy Levitation Tank" and "Hi-Tech Hovercraft" to "Antigrav" tech.

Thanks! :goodjob:
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Heavy Levitation Tank, sure, Hovercraft, not so much. I though you said that units named Hovercraft was not using antigrav or magnetic means to stay afloat. Also, the Hi-Tech Hovercraft is not balanced for the late Transhuman Era, it is balanced for the Mid-TH era.
 
Hydromancerx said:
Here is a preview of an awesome new unit I am making. However it doesn't want to export. :(
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ls612 said:
@Hydro:

Those models look very nice! One question though, did that tool I linked to help you to figure out animations? It would be nice not to have to add more units without animations, as then they look odd to those of us who use the animations ingame.

I like the idea of a Fusion Core resource, it should require a chain of a few buildings.
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Yeah, i'd rather NOT have any that DIDNT have animations added, sorry.

You need to get ahold of "Premier Valle", "The_Coyote", or "asioasioasio" and find out how they do such a great job of getting the animations from other games to work here in C2C or CFC, thx.
 
strategyonly said:
Yeah, i'd rather NOT have any that DIDNT have animations added, sorry.

You need to get ahold of "Premier Valle", "The_Coyote", or "asioasioasio" and find out how they do such a great job of getting the animations from other games to work here in C2C or CFC, thx.
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Yes, I agree with that. However, I'd rather add the unit w/o anims if I knew that the animations could be made later. That's why I linked Hydro to the KFM editing tool, I hope he'll be able to learn how to use it. It reads like greek (or alternatively, some of Koshling's technical explanations) to me.:crazyeye:
 
ls612 said:
It reads like greek (or alternatively, some of Koshling's technical explanations) to me.:crazyeye:
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ahaa:lol:

Now as long as we are on the subject, can we get a replacement for the Horse Crossbowman, its looks and sounds really (no offense) "stupid" for a crossbow to act and sounds like a "gun.":crazyeye: Thx in advance.

Also ls612, i have another task for ya , but only WHEN you have alot of time ok. PM me, when you do, thx.
 
ls612 said:
@Hydro:

Those models look very nice! One question though, did that tool I linked to help you to figure out animations? It would be nice not to have to add more units without animations, as then they look odd to those of us who use the animations ingame.

I like the idea of a Fusion Core resource, it should require a chain of a few buildings.
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I have not gone through it yet. :blush:

ls612 said:
Heavy Levitation Tank, sure, Hovercraft, not so much. I though you said that units named Hovercraft was not using antigrav or magnetic means to stay afloat. Also, the Hi-Tech Hovercraft is not balanced for the late Transhuman Era, it is balanced for the Mid-TH era.
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Oh oops! :blush: Your right. Brainfart. :crazyeye:

strategyonly said:
ahaa:lol:

Now as long as we are on the subject, can we get a replacement for the Horse Crossbowman, its looks and sounds really (no offense) "stupid" for a crossbow to act and sounds like a "gun.":crazyeye: Thx in advance.
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Potentially in the future if I learn how to do animations. However I could easily make it non-animated now. :p
 
@ls612

Please add this unit.

Dolphin Mech [ National Unit - Limit 15]
Graphic: (See Attachment)
Button: (See Attachment)
Type: Assault Mech
Strength: 120
Movement: 1
Cost: 900
Req Tech: Species Uplifting AND Powered Exoskeleton
Req Resource: Cetacea Sapien AND (Aluminum OR Titanium OR Nanotubes)
Req Resource: Mech Assembly Plant
Upgrades To: -

Special Abilities
  • 1 First Strike
  • Can Intercept Aircraft (20% Chance)
  • +10% City Attack
  • Can Bombard City Defenses (-10% Per Turn)
  • Ignores Building Defense
  • Can move in Ocean and Coastal Terrain
  • Starts with Blitz, Amphibious
  • +5 :gold" Per Turn

Notes: Use Power Armored Infantry as a Base

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Also can you add (Aluminum OR Titanium OR Nanotubes) for the Armored Infantry o it can have a 3rd resource choice? Thanks! :goodjob:
 
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