LUA peace with barbs

[Pazyryk]

Alternative leader

Watch it! I've got a barb leader you would not want me to post...

 

[Gedemon]

(or perhaps it only triggers if you lose your last city, and if you never have a city you never lose it ... if that makes sense)

I think it works exactly like that.

 

[whoward69]

These guys had their own little kingdom within 40 turns - http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=350546&d=1368568669

 

[Pazyryk]

OK, so let's say I want to add my own "Barb Faction" (let's call them Pirates) which is really just a minor civ never given a start plot (which means they never get an initial settler, I've found). I write my own Lua to spawn units. I use Lua to set who is and isn't at war with them over the course of the game. And I edit UI files so they don't show up for human player.

There's two loose ends I can't figure out. If a player is at peace with Pirates, how do I prevent:

1. Pirates from giving quests
2. AI players from bribing Pirates trying to become friends or allies

Not sure if that is a fatal flaw for my minor-civs-as-barb-factions idea.

 

[whoward69]

Not easily are the answers

The first one you could fix by adding an event to the DLL CanHaveQuest or some-such, the second is more tricky as there are a number of places the AI can give a gift.

There's also the issue of spies, elections and coups (unless you have espionage switched off)

 

[killmeplease]

how will cs without a city behave? wont its units just standing? or what?
i thought of making an animal faction for a prehistory mod - mainly for a mammoth hunting gameplay. mammoths should wander around, is it possible?

 

[Craig_Sutter]

I am pretty certain you can use lua to keep their attitude such that they will not be giving things away.

 

[Pazyryk]

I am pretty certain you can use lua to keep their attitude such that they will not be giving things away.

Really? So if I keep relationship at -59 and at peace, then:

1. Full civ AI will never give gift (of any kind) to CS.
2. CS will never give quest to full civ.

Is that what you are saying? Is it true?

 

[Craig_Sutter]

I'm not certain... you can certainly adjust attitude as per code I use:

function SetWessexWihtFriendship()

if Game.GetGameTurn() >= 0 then

local pWiht
local pWessex
local Wessex

for iPlayer=0, GameDefines.MAX_MAJOR_CIVS-1 do 

local pWessex = Players[iPlayer]
	
  if (pWessex:IsAlive()) then
		if (GameInfo.Civilizations.CIVILIZATION_ENGLAND.ID == pWessex:GetCivilizationType()) then
     
	   	Wessex = iPlayer
		

for iWiht = GameDefines.MAX_MAJOR_CIVS, GameDefines.MAX_CIV_PLAYERS-2, 1 do

local pWiht = Players[iWiht]

   if (pWiht:IsAlive()) then
		if (GameInfo.MinorCivilizations.MINOR_CIV_WIHT.ID == pWiht:GetMinorCivType()) then
										
      pWiht:ChangeMinorCivFriendshipWithMajor(Wessex, .67)

		end
    end
  end
end
end
end
end
end

Events.ActivePlayerTurnEnd.Add(SetWessexWihtFriendship)

You would need to determine attitude and whether the civ was aggressive or not (to see how many points per turn it changes its attitude). I'm not certain if a lua function does this or not.

I do not know the ramifications of keeping it at -59 either... I rarely play the game actually, but if -59 in a normal game leads to those results you mentioned, I do not see why it wouldn't work.

You would have to anticipate all the things that adjust attitude and have lua shift in the minor's attitude change accordingly.

 

[Craig_Sutter]

Something like:

pCityState:ChangeMinorCivFriendshipWithMajor(pPlayer, X+Y+Z-59)

Where X,Y and Z would be things that influence a minor's attitude positively or negatively. Hopefully lua functions exist to determine all those or they are factors that do not change. X, Y and Z would have to change dynamically using lua methods that determine the current attitude... perhaps there's one function that does this, or a variety. A glance through the lua reference (which I've not time to do at the moment) would tell the tale.