Lula, the film

[sophie]

I feel that if a company wants to make a film, they should have every right to make said film. (Same goes for pieces of Literature). In other words if someone wants to make a film praising Lula, portraying Bush in an extremely negative light (or even making a pornographic film with Palin as the central character ), and they can secure funding for the film, there should be nothing to prevent them from doing so.

 

[gugalpm]

Lula is a major joker and a real opportunist, but all this whining is pathetic. Looks like a little girl complaining about another little girl taking her dolls. If you don't like the movie, don't watch it.

 

[luiz]

Lula is a major joker and a real opportunist, but all this whining is pathetic. Looks like a little girl complaining about another little girl taking her dolls. If you don't like the movie, don't watch it.

I have problems with companies that receive government money using money to finance government propaganda. People like you, who can't see that, are the pathetic ones. BTW I did not expect to see you posting on this forum after you made such an idiot of yourself with your claim that the entire Brazilian security forces of the military regime was trained in the US.

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[gugalpm]

I have problems with companies that receive government money using money to finance government propaganda. People like you, who can't see that, are the pathetic ones. BTW I did not expect to see you posting on this forum after you made such an idiot of yourself with your claim that the entire Brazilian security forces of the military regime was trained in the US.

If you have a problem, then don't do any business with those companies - act, don't whine.

Keep attacking me. Won't take you nowhere.

Moderator Action: Just report the posts.

 

[Agarwaen]

Luiz, a Brazilian once told me that Lula cut off his own finger to get injury benefits. Is this a popular rumor or is it true?

Its a popular rumor, I doubt it has any truth.

 

[luiz]

If you have a problem, then don't do any business with those companies - act, don't whine.

Keep attacking me. Won't take you nowhere.

Don't do business with Andrade & Gutierrez or Oderbrecht?
Do you ever know what you're talking about?

Contractors don't do business with individuals. They do business with governments. They're not like Walmart or Microsoft. They take public money and so should refrain from financing government propaganda. That's basic common sense.

 

[innonimatu]

And lambs and wolves should all sing and dance together. Yeah, sure, in fairy-land!

There is only one way to avoid having private contractors buying their way into overpriced public contracts, and that is to have no private contractors. Which I guess you would disagree with.

 

[gugalpm]

And lambs and wolves should all sing and dance together. Yeah, sure, in fairy-land!

There is only one way to avoid having private contractors buying their way into overpriced public contracts, and that is to have no private contractors. Which I guess you would disagree with.

I guess he wouldn't complain a single bit if the government were controlled by a different party. Some people in Brazil feel very very bitter that the country is doing decently with Lula as president. Again, I would never vote for Lula or his party, and I could say I despise them, but at least I'm not a resented, begrudged person. Must feel bad, though.

 

[ainwood]

Moderator Action: gugalpm, Luiz: Stop making it personal. Stick to discussing the issues.

 

[plarq]

And lambs and wolves should all sing and dance together. Yeah, sure, in fairy-land!

There is only one way to avoid having private contractors buying their way into overpriced public contracts, and that is to have no private contractors. Which I guess you would disagree with.

Now replace private contractors with bureau of bureaucracy, same game, different players.

 

[Agent327]

Aww, it should have been a musical.

And that's about all the attention such a movie deserves.

"Thank you. Don't call us, we'll call you. Next, please!"

 

[luiz]

And lambs and wolves should all sing and dance together. Yeah, sure, in fairy-land!

There is only one way to avoid having private contractors buying their way into overpriced public contracts, and that is to have no private contractors. Which I guess you would disagree with.

That would just replace one type of corruption for another... public companies are extremely corrupt in Brazil, and they too use their revenue to finance government propaganda... after all they are directly controlled by the government!

BTW, if you dislike creepy state-capitalism and dodgy deals between the government and private conglomerates, you should hate Lula. His government saw the absolute peak of this sort of corruption in the history of the nation; contractors and marketing companies were caught red-handed making huge payments to top government officials, on several occasions.

I guess he wouldn't complain a single bit if the government were controlled by a different party. Some people in Brazil feel very very bitter that the country is doing decently with Lula as president. Again, I would never vote for Lula or his party, and I could say I despise them, but at least I'm not a resented, begrudged person. Must feel bad, though.

I love it how after you make an absurd statement you just ignore it and move on.
"All Brazilian Security Forces during the military regime were trained in the US".
"If you have a problem, don't do business with those companies [contractors]"



You should really think a bit before you write. And I would appreciate it if instead of accusing me of bitterness and insisting on your petista nonsense you would actually address the points I made about why it is wrong for those companies to do what they did.