Takhisis said:
Onagers can´t defend themselves at close combat, you always have to protect them. Their aim is terrible unless they have at least 2 silver chevrons. And they don´t always scare elephants or chariots away.
What? then it means you don´t know how to use them! Of course you have to keep them out of range until there´s a gap, or you can put them into the first line with some armored cavalry and/or chariots just behind, and make an all-out charge.
the cheaper phalanxes are very vulnerable to missile weapons. A company of Greek Archers or Illirian mercs can get rid of half a hoplite company very fast.
Defend onagers? Let me think? Did i metioned phalanx? What else you need, besides if you keep killing them, you adversary will just have to attack you phalanxes, and thats just the best part of the day on any fight. Aim is bad? It can kill over 400 or more during a 10m period battle. You must be kidding, try using it more and on some lan or online battles, this unit is even banned on same game types because of its power. As far as experience, 3 bronze is more then enough, and thats as far as you can get on a costum battle for RTR gold 6.0, prob because people on RTR aknowlege the power of it
Onagers put on the
P of pressure on your enemies minds.
They dont scare elephants away? Sorry you re right, they just melte them away, try using onagers on fire mode, youlll see what i talk about. Barbacue time!
I dont know how to use elephants? i once won a battle against rome by only using armoured elephants, was kind funny too, but on the highest level of difficulty, wich is the one i always play in, elephants are just waste of money and time, besides, by the time you´lll be able to build them, the necessary improvements arent that few you know, you ll have better units to build for far less money. Know if you use one elephant to instantly break a city gate, counting its not stone wall and better, this unit as its value for sure, but on a real and decisive batlle i tend to disagree. So for me elephants are for hire or for use in a 1 or 2 quantity at most.
Besides the best way to use elephants is after the troops engage, make them flank, and clicking them to attack the opposite unit on the enemies flank, the effect will be a mad elephant running across the field and making an highway just in front of your soldiers, but then again, on higher levels and vs good players this never happens.
As far as the cheaper phalanx, archer fire and illyrian mercenarians are good yes, but then again...not that good, if im in a well disposed formation, youll see my units arent droping like you re hoping, besides, in any phalanx army i tend to have cretan archers, heavy pelstats and some sweet onagers, join in a pair of cavalry and your arrows wont be doing much damage.
Give me something better then this:
Cheaper phalanx- 240 mens - very long spears - defense arent that good as standard phalanx, but then again, who need it, your v.long spears keep everyone else at bay, yes even spartans, did i mention they where cheap, like 300 gold! for that price i buy an iberian that cost 250, only have 160, and they re efficience is far worse. If you retrain them, or even better join them after batlles and then retrain them youll be getting cheaper phalanxes with silver experience in no time.
Talking about an all around troop
As far as chariots, those amazons are mean, the sycthed arent that bad but others are just pure crap and waste of money.
PS: as posted by undefeatable in RTW heaven forums for using elephants:
sounds awsome though!
