MadV1

[SesnOfWthr]

IIRC, all the FP does with the latest patch is raise the OCN, and make the core more oval shaped. Does that make sense?

Anyhow, I would say that perhaps one of the former Portugese cities may be a good choice, as the next best land is in Japan.

$0.02

 

[madviking]

Just to tell you diplo is off.

 

[nerovats]

I thought the latest patch return the function of the FP to what it was in vanilla (second core).

 

[namliaM]

FP definatly does NOT produce a second core. I think it does something like reduce corruption and waste by 90% or so.
Get it into a highly productive city on the south part of the continent.

New Yax, Karakorum and Edo are prime candidates to me....
New Yax: Game, River, Mountain (to many possibly)
Karakorum: Cow, Horse, River, Mountain, Hill, allready develloped, IIRC some wonders (dont remember if it does and what)
Edo: Away from the front line, cant really see other big plusses here

Going thru the list I would say Karakorum, but for the flip risk (if any) and the front line.
If we rush the FP there, we have to make sure we dont lose it!

Good thinking by the way, the benifit will be much greater if we have the FP allready. Tho we do not really need the GA at this time and place....

 

[nerovats]

Agree on Karakorum if no second core.

 

[madviking]

AHH! im up!
GOT IT

 

[Tribute]

I'm back guys! And good job on your turns. The more I think about it, the more I feel like war.

 

[madviking]

0- looks good
1- Palenque Kn -> Kn, Yax Kn -> Kn, Lagar set -> bar, kill archer
2- Crap Kyoto riots, Tikal set -> worker, Quir galley -> galley, Cakamul Kn -> Kn, Ake` har -> Court, change spears into courts, capture Batshireet, hurry settler at New Yax
3- xcalsomething har -> bar, New Yax set -> worker, build New Lazapa
4- Bomak Kn -> Kn, make New Kaminaljuyú aka MadViking's Second Home, hurry FP there
5- Gunpower -> Theo, Tikal work -> work, Kamina Kn -> Kn, coba` Settler -> work, build FP in MV'sSH, capture Baruun-Urt, (nearest Salt, Satsuma )
6- make New Kaminaljuyú
7- Lapaza Kn -> Musket, cuello Kn -> musket, capture last Mongol city!!
8- Negras galley -> galley, Kazan set -> work, Palenque kn -> musket, Lagar bar -> galley, Choyblasan se -> work, Uxmal set -> work, Mayapan galley -> galley, New Lagar Treb -> work, Willy builds MoM, make embassies on Willy, Bismarck, and Mao
9- Theo -> Edu, tikal work -> musket, quir Galley- > Galley, Cala Kn -> Musket, Coba' Worker -> musket, Willy makes Big Wall, Change KT to Loenardo's
10- Mao wants Engin. NO, Yax Kn -> musket, New Quir Treb -> musket, make New Piedras Negras and New Uaxactun

 

[namliaM]

Will play soon, Pre 1000 is looking a bit ambicious at the moment....

Still no GA then? And I thought we were thinking FP in Karak ??

 

[madviking]

IIRC MVSH is a little SW of Karak. Just to be a little more central.

 

[namliaM]

Put Knights onto Hittiti Island

IT: Hits demand I leave, sign RoP for now
Mandal Worker> Worker
Lagartero Worker> Market
2 Galeys lost in sea

1@660
Down Sci to 50%

IT: Bonompak Knight> Knight
Calak JT>JT
new Quir WOrker> Market

2@670 Sci to 40%

IT: zzzzzzz

3@680
zzzzz

IT: Copan KT> Uni
Kiman Knight> Uni
Cuello Knight> Uni
Kabah Court> Lib

4@690
zzzz

IT Lisbon done> Lib
Lagartero Aque> Uni

5@700 Disband 2 trebs
Start killing Hittites
Start GA with first JT attack
SIgn RoP with chinese (should have done so before with dutch as well...)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

IT to 750: CI Sistine Chapel> Uni

Not much happen start GA, Start killing Hittites.
Note I used RoP rape and now the hittites know some other civs so our rep is shot.

Kill the World... I would like to not see any settling on other lands than our own.... Raze every city... kill everything is my motto....

 

[madviking]

Should we start playing 5 turns each?

 

[namliaM]

I played 10 tho I got a bit tired of noting everthing down, I needed to finish... its currently 1:30 am in the NL

And there are about 10.000 city's and a 100.000 units if you want to take everything down... I would be here till 2 PM!

 

[nerovats]

why disband the treb's?

 

[namliaM]

Because we dont need them on the Hittite island... and by the time they get to the front lines on the other continent there will be no more front line....

Knights and Cavs all the way!

 

[Tribute]

MadV- waiting
namliaM- just played/playing
Tribute- almost Up
Sesn- on deck
Nerovats- waiting

I'm worried about the 10 turn thing. I'll play 5 because of all the units.

Look at the AI capitals. Only Germany has infrastructure that it actually built on its own.

 

[madviking]

Tribute, if you read more carefully, namliaM DID play the turns, but only recorded 5 of thems.

 

[SesnOfWthr]

You know, it's already done, but I really don't like the RoP tactic. I think it was entirely unnecessary and generally considered bad form in SG's. In fact, the first post in the thread says "lk's rules", and I think LK would probably come to your house and skin you alive if this was his game. Like I said, it's already done, but I just wanted to voice my distaste for the methods. I especially don't understand why our units were even in their territory if we didn't already declare.

As far as keeping cities, I wouldn't keep any either. Raze everything, except for cities that have a lux we need. I also don't see a need for building any new cities from this point on. Also make sure we have a harbor over there in case there is no coastal cities, assuming there is a viable trade route. Agree that fast movers are the way to go, given our tech lead. Not sure the current tech status, but as long as we have cavs before they have muskets, we should be able to simply outproduce their defensive capabilities.

 

[namliaM]

@SeSn

I dont normaly use it at all, given the situation I thought it was the thing to do...
They were isolated (did not know anybody) and conquering the island is a pain... I thought the combination asked for them to be had this way....
Obviously I was wrong and appearently broke some rulez in the process, I appologize....

 

[Tribute]

Oh, I see. I couldn't find the save until I hovered over the smiley. So I got it.