Mafia Game: Monty Python and the Holy Grail (GAME THREAD)

[plarq]

Well, if the host is lynched, the game is automatically over.

 

[Izipo]

Hi, I just wanted to join in the fun

 

[Renata]

Pull up a chair, the fireworks are just being set up.

 

[TheLastOne36]

God crowns TLO the new king of Camelot due to his contributions to the throne, and all of Camelot.

 

[Sprig]

Fireworks? I love Fireworks! can we strap some to the witch?

 

[choxorn]

Looks like day starts in a few hours. I have two things to say:

PAULUS III AND OYZAR.

If these two people are both still alive by the end of today, I will murder all the innocents in their sleep if they don't get there first.

 

[Pinman]

look choxorn, the MASONS ARE INNOCENT. ( or theyve totally misinterpreted their role PM, in which case its all their fault)

And we are probably about to lose the game.

 

[choxorn]

Oyzar might not be, but at the very least, kill Paulus, since with everything we know about everyone else taken into consideration, he can't possibly NOT be a Knight.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Apologies for the delay in the writeup, the CFC was down for me for a while and I was sleeping for a little bit after midnight.

I wake up to find this in my mailbox, so I'm posting it as requested.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I misinterpreted the Role PM, which actually only states that we know each other's identities. oyzar, however, got it into my mind that that meant we know of each other's innocence. So I'm thinking now that oyzar's guilty, given some other actions of his, and given the weird predicament we find ourselves in.

Snerk claims the following:

• He is the witch.
• He is in contact with the knights who say ni (KWSN), and has convinced them that his victory condition is a mafia victory.
• He knows the identity of Paulus as a KWSN, and is taking orders from Paulus as to who to newt, in order to make the KWSN trust him.
• His actual victory condition is a town victory.

So, if we discount the possibility that either hell_hound, oyzar or myself is guilty, then, firstly, we have have a situation that doesn't make much sense, and there are 3 possibilities:

1. Paulus and sprig are guilty. But why would Paulus tell Snerk to newt sprig? And if sprig was newted, as is claimed, why were there still two knights in the last kill? There is the slight possibility under this situation that Snerk didn't newt anyone last turn, and is only claiming to newt sprig so that sprig appears to be innocent, whilst Snerk furthers his own aims of a mafia victory. But that seems quite unlikely.
2. Paulus and Snerk are guilty. But how can Snerk be both the witch and guilty? A double role? And if so, then why did Snerk come to me screaming bloody murder and claiming that Paulus was a KWSN? That just makes no sense.
3. Snerk and sprig are guilty. Again, however, a double role would be required. But that is possible, I guess. It would make sense in terms of the newting, with Snerk claiming to newt sprig in order to throw suspicion away from both of them. It would also make sense in terms of Snerk claiming that he knew that Paulus was guilty.

So out of these three possibilities, there most likely one is No. 3 (Snerk and sprig are the KWSN). But that is horribly unlikely. Not only does it require Snerk to have a double role, but it also requires sprig, who we have already lynched, to be guilty. Which I find quite unlikely. So unless anyone can find any clues since sprig's lynch pointing towards one of the KWSN only having one leg, there must be another possibility. And what possibilities do we have(discounted the possibility that I could be guilty- I'm not)?

1. Snerk and oyzar are guilty. This is possible, although oyzar has been newted by Snerk in the past.
2. Snerk and hell_hound. Again, it's possible, just like it is with oyzar, but I find it unlikely.
3. sprig and oyzar are guilty. This would be a really, really weird situation. Why would Snerk claim to know the identity of Paulus as a KWSN if Paulus isn't a knight, and if Snerk isn't a knight? Neither of them are guilty, so what reason would there be?
4. sprig and hell_hound are guilty. Same again. No different to sprig and oyzar being guilty but with different names.
5. Both hell_hound and oyzar are guilty. Well, if this is correct, we're screwed.
6. Paulus and hell_hound. Very possible. This could be the other knight that Snerk has yet to gain contact with. If Snerk is telling the truth (which, IMO, he is), then this is a distinct possibility.
7. Paulus and oyzar. Same again.

So, I the most likely scenario is either No. 6 or No. 7. But, in all likelihood, I think that the correct scenario is No. 7, with Paulus and oyzar being the KWSN. For starters, one of my two counterparts has to be guilty. All other explanations make no sense. So why oyzar?

• He introduced the idea that we knew of each other's innocence.
• When I suggested Renata was guilty very early on, he dismissed that and insisted that ZPV (who was eventually plarq) and Izipo were probably guilty.
• He was very angry at hell_hound when hell_hound revealed our identities to Pinman without consulting us, and insisted that everyone be consulted on everything in the future.
• He suggested we use our protections up early on, on basically the first three nights. One of these was, of course, successful, even further furthering oyzar's cause to appear innocent.
• The KWSN have never wasted a kill attempting to target either me, hell_hound or oyzar. This would strongly suggest that they had knowledge of our protection ability, and would also suggest that after those protection abilities had been used up, the best way to avoid suspicion would be to have us still alive. This would also help oyzar, with both hell_hound and myself jumping to his defence.
• Recently, oyzar has not responded to any of my PMs, and has largely withdrawn from the thread, despite telling me earlier that communication between all of us was key. The only reason I can see for this is that he didn't want to have to implicate another KWSN in conversation with myself and hell_hound.
• He established the bandwagon of plarq, after Pinman had presented evidence and voted for plarq. He was later to the party against Renata (although hell_hound was even later).
• oyzar contacted me and was very eager that he be entrusted with the Holy Hand Grenade. Note that this was after I had already voted to give it to him, but he was very eager nonetheless. hell_hound made no attempt to claim it, and voted that oyzar should have it. Both oyzar and hell_hound were early in on the Izipo bandwagon, but given oyzar's previous suggestions as to Izipo's guilt (in PM discussion), he takes the cake in that one, too.

Now, much of the same goes for hell_hound, and if anyone has any evidence that hell_hound is more guilty than oyzar, I'd like to see it. But going off what I have, and what seems to me to make the most sense, oyzar must be guilty, along with Paulus.

But let's see what happens in the night first- I bet I die.

Writeup to follow.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

NIGHT NINE​

The Right Head of the three-headed knight was sleeping. Snoring loudly, in fact. So when he was decapitated by one of the Knights who said Ni, he never saw it coming.

When the head fell to the frozen Earth, the Knight said Ni over and over again, until it exploded, for good measure.

Camikaze was killed.

Alive: (5/30)

Paulus III
Snerk
Sprig
oyzar
hell hound


Lynched: (7/30)

plarq
TheLastOne36
CivGeneral
CCrunner
Izipo
Renata
plarq (again!)

Murdered: (18/30)

Seon
cubsfan6506
taillesskangaru
Stuck in Pi
Winston Hughes
civplayah
cindle
rhawn
Pinman
Double A
Sithlord447
Catharsis
Tasslehoff
Nictel
choxorn
Backwards Logic
Love
Camikaze

Wrath of God: (2)

kill fire
ZPV




Day Ten begins now. You have 24 hours.

 

[Sprig]

ummmm... ATPG - I don't think Camikaze wanted you to post that if he was killed? Or am I missing something?

 

[Sprig]

Further to my last post ...

It would seem I hold the balance of power, which I feel kinda ironic since my poor character is a conflicted fellow with Alignment to one side and Victory on the other. (Though, it may come down to a tie break if we include pinman in the picture)

Still it will be very intresting to see how the vote goes.

For the moment Vote:Abstain

P.S. I would love some of that popcorn

EDIT: Actually removing me from the picture might be the best bet for all parties.
Unvote; Vote: Sprig

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

in the event of a tie, the tie-break will involve a coin toss for several reasons:

1. Already established precedent of there being no double lynches.
2. No possibility of there being a change in the vote tally in a runoff
3. Fairness to all parties.

ummmm... ATPG - I don't think Camikaze wanted you to post that if he was killed? Or am I missing something?

There was a slight and sudden change in plans.

And,

 

[Pinman]

Vote: Paulus

Camikaze is right, the logical contradictions implicit in Snerk lying to me were confusing me all night. ATPG can attest to that eh?

 

[Renata]

Hehehe. Did you talk his ear off?

 

[Snerk]

Vote: Paulus

This is what we should have done yesterday! But nooo, even though i was sending out pm's left and right, you lot went with the ravings of pinman and his elimination theory that had more holes in it than a frickin' swiss frickin' cheese!

Like Cam said, i was in contact with the mafia (renata, then paulus) and convinced them i could win with a mafia victory, but in fact my VC requires them dead.

FYI, paulus was newted tonight, and there was only one active KWSN this night.

So, today we lynch paulus, and discuss if i should newt hell_hound, or oyzar tonight. They are our main suspects.

 

[Snerk]

@Sprig:
Yeah if the mafia join your bandwagon it will be a tie break at best, and the mafia will stand a good chance at winning the game.

Your personal goal is to die is it not?

How about this: you join us in lynching Paulus today, and we will kill you tomorrow if you want us to?

 

[choxorn]

"But let's see what happens in the night first- I bet I die."

How'd you know?

 

[Izipo]

And more important, who killed Camikaze ?

 

[Love]

The mafia. Duh?