Make random events more detailed & more elaborate

[Rusty Edge]

I LIKE these!

Thank You, I'll try to think of some more.

Anythink to dilute the incidence of mine dissasters and bandit attacks on farms.

 

[Rusty Edge]

D While operating near foreign territorial waters , a mysterious explosion has blown the superstucture off of one of our battleships. Everybody has their own pet theory and agenda ...

1) Treasurer- "Maintaining a capital ship is expensive. Talk is cheap, just make a speech." Battleship is scrapped, crew discharged. + , chance of losing another battleship in a similar explosion.

2) Ambassador- " The presence of that ship gave our policies power and prestige. Much is at stake. We need it back, bigger, better, and NOW!" Restore ship with an extra combat promotion. - , chance of losing another battleship in a similar explosion.

3) Admiral of the Atlantic- "Can't you see the hand of our unofficial enemies!?
The survivers would gladly give their lives for revenge." Lose battleship. Gain some spies.

4)Admiral of the Pacific- "Battlewagons are the dinosaurs of the deep seas. Subs and torpedo planes will soon make them extinct. This is an excellent opportunity to convert the hulk to an aircraft carrier. " Replace battleship with an aircraft carrier. -

5) Admiral of the Indian Ocean- " I can smell the spilled powder and open magazine from here! The only thing a dreadnaught has to fear is a careless crew! The only thing this navy needs is a massive live fire re-training program that will that will teach them to be safe, accurate and quick!!! " Lose battleship. - Each battleship left in the Navy gets a promotion such as accuracy or drill.

6) Admiral of the Arctic- "It takes a thousand sailors to operate a Battleship. Do you have any idea how many sub crews that is?!" Ship is lost. Experience points are given to subs.

 

[RedRalph]

They lead an asocial life, often engage in begging, the soothsaying racket, shady business deals, fraud or theft, and actively try to keep their children away from school because they don't want them to learn to live settled lives. They also regard it as perfectly legitimate to rip off non-Gypsies, or Gypsies belonging to another clan. They have a culture which shuns living like grownups, and they indoctrinate their young to live the same way. Yes, they do tend to be a bit disliked, for some reason.

every one of those charges can be levelled at non-gypsies, (with the apprpopriate equivalents), Thats a massive generalisation, replace the words Gypsies with "black" "Jewish", or say, "scandanavian" you would be banned or at least warned by a mod. this shouldnt go unchallenged

 

[peter450]

I'm not sure how the majority of players feel about this but I for one really enjoy the random events introduced in 'Civ IV: BTS'. In fact I would like to see this implemented on a larger scale and distributed via a download (or dare I say expansion pack) with more elaborate and detailed random events. Of course this would need to be customizable to cater to all playstyles and need to be done in such a manner to not adversely affect the mission of the game. It would have more imaginative, yet appropriate, game content. I am sure that it wouldn't take much of an effort on the part of the game designers, or even the more than qualified modders/fans, to add the improved feature. It would certainly add to many players overall enjoyment of the series, including myself.

Do any of the forum members here share the same sentiments?

Yes, yes & yes

Things that should be top of the to do list in the next patch (which will be the big one)

Tidy up the text, compared to the text an icons for everyother aspect of the game, the menu's depicting random events an the test itself is bland an basic, how about some nice looking text with shock gasp maybe even a nice small acompanying picture of said random event.

Multiple choice random events were you can only choose one option, please have these as information events i'e up pops the text you read it click ok an away it goes, having a load of greyed out unselectable options looks sloppy, spoils future surprises and looks plain rushed.

More random events please, i've lost count of the tragic number of mine accidents that seem to happen everygame, especially seeing as i keep paying a load of cash to keep everyone happy and emphasis future safety, which seems to be advice thats ignored as a few turns later another mine has collapsed, also how many jilted brides do i end up with, it's like my empire is full of ugly women. variety please, on long games epic/marathon the repetion gets dull.

More quests and interactive events please, with better more fun rewards, theres so many to choose from, how bout some more military themed one's culture themed ones etc, there's so many cool quests they could add, search for the holy grail, discovering the yeti, hell even a jurassic park style island, the options are limited only by the imagination so since this patch is going to take a while, i'm sure there's plenty of cool new stuff that can be added in terms of fun an interesting side quests.

balance out some of the events, I'e holy mountain, dont have it as a peak near a civ, have it somewere more isolated so it's not pot luck if you actually get it or not, i've had this quest appear an fail in the sapce of like 10 turns, no chance to complete it, blance out these quests so there neither to easy, some i always get, nor too random or luck based

 

[Öjevind Lång]

every one of those charges can be levelled at non-gypsies, (with the apprpopriate equivalents), Thats a massive generalisation, replace the words Gypsies with "black" "Jewish", or say, "scandanavian" you would be banned or at least warned by a mod. this shouldnt go unchallenged

I knew that someone would accuse me of racism, but that isn't the case. Those charges can't be "levelled at non-Gypsies". And there are no "appropriate equivalents". Which other group would you say discourages their children from going to school - any school? Which other ethnic group on this planet is habitually given to begging? I'm not a racist because I mention Gypsy cultural characteristics. Their pattern of behaviour is acknowledged even by people who think they are romantic, victimized or whatever. Of course there are Gypsies who don't observe the traditional pattern; but they cease to be Gypsies in a generation or two, for reasons that should be obvious.

All cultural patterns of behaviour are not of equal worth. For example, female genital mutilation, quite common in some parts of Africa, is an extremely bad cultural behaviour. And in my opinion, the same is true of the traditional cultural pattern of Gypsies.

I don't want to flame you for typos, but you might like to know that the word "Scandinavian" is spelled that way and no other way.

 

[RedRalph]

Making shady business deals isnt a charge that can be levelled at any non-gypsies? They lives Asocial lives? what??? They "regard it as legitimate to rip-off non-gypsies? Who told you this? you've asked them and they told you this, have you? total rubbish...

Try and legitamise it all you want, you are taking one social group, generally considered to be a distinct race and ascribing them a blanket negative, ludicrous and in some cases nonsensical characteristics. thats call racism

I can think of at least one major 20th century historical figure who shared your views about gypsies. Hope you are proud that you and this man have some major pilitical views in common

 

[Horace]

Id still like to see volcanic eruptions being able to wipe a city off the map. would be a rare occurance and partly down to chance of a city being there.

 

[RedRalph]

Id still like to see volcanic eruptions being able to wipe a city off the map. would be a rare occurance and partly down to chance of a city being there.

It would be good if certain areas could be designated earthquake risk zones, which could aslo detroy cities.

 

[Spearthrower]

Id still like to see volcanic eruptions being able to wipe a city off the map. would be a rare occurance and partly down to chance of a city being there.

AAAaarggghh!!

I hate things like this - I'd modify it out immediately!

 

[Rusty Edge]

It would be good if certain areas could be designated earthquake risk zones, which could aslo detroy cities.

The Firaxis people say that a city killing surpise infuriates a lot of people, so those tend to be deleted in testing.


But I do like your idea of an earthquake risk zone , probably where you find coastal peaks, and where continents join.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Making shady business deals isnt a charge that can be levelled at any non-gypsies? They lives Asocial lives? what??? They "regard it as legitimate to rip-off non-gypsies? Who told you this? you've asked them and they told you this, have you? total rubbish...

Try and legitamise it all you want, you are taking one social group, generally considered to be a distinct race and ascribing them a blanket negative, ludicrous and in some cases nonsensical characteristics. thats call racism

I can think of at least one major 20th century historical figure who shared your views about gypsies. Hope you are proud that you and this man have some major pilitical views in common

I'm talking of an established cultural pattern which you can consult any ethnologist about. That does not entitle you to compare me to Adolf Hitler. *You* are the one who brings "race" (that largely fictitious concept) into the discussion. I really don't want to exchange any more messages with you.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

The Firaxis people say that a city killing surpise infuriates a lot of people, so those tend to be deleted in testing.

Amen. I remember how annoying that was in Civ III.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

The Firaxis people say that a city killing surpise infuriates a lot of people, so those tend to be deleted in testing.


But I do like your idea of an earthquake risk zone , probably where you find coastal peaks, and where continents join.

Maybe it could just cause severe damage, with buildings and a few population points getting destroyed.

 

[kokoras]

Random events are great,i would like to see more because practically they can change the aspect of the game.
A greater number of these events would probably give the chance to create something that you didn't intend to(directly),or even to change your strategy.

 

[Rusty Edge]

Maybe it could just cause severe damage, with buildings and a few population points getting destroyed.

That would work for me. For most, the loss of a building and a population point would be plenty.

 

[RedRalph]

I'm talking of an established cultural pattern which you can consult any ethnologist about. That does not entitle you to compare me to Adolf Hitler. *You* are the one who brings "race" (that largely fictitious concept) into the discussion. I really don't want to exchange any more messages with you.

Adolf Hitler shared your views about Gypsies. Ergo, you had extremely similar views (albeit no doubt his were more extreme) regarding Gypsies to his. Ergo, your views on gypsies can be compared to Adolf Hitlers.

Actually you mentioned race first.

Any ethnologist. so I could ask any one and they would agree with you? Are you sure of this?


Pretty hollow. I dont want to hear from you either.

 

[Horace]

Your city getting wiped out by a volcano does temporarily annoy you but i enjoy dealing with stuff like that. Its like when I play racing games, I like the possibility of my car being able to blow up etc. just more realistic

 

[RedRalph]

Your city getting wiped out by a volcano does temporarily annoy you but i enjoy dealing with stuff like that. Its like when I play racing games, I like the possibility of my car being able to blow up etc. just more realistic

totally missed 'Its like when I play racing games' on first read and took you for a hardcore adreniline junkie

 

[sw99]

Adolf Hitler shared your views about Gypsies. Ergo, you had extremely similar views (albeit no doubt his were more extreme) regarding Gypsies to his. Ergo, your views on gypsies can be compared to Adolf Hitlers.

Actually you mentioned race first.

Any ethnologist. so I could ask any one and they would agree with you? Are you sure of this?


Pretty hollow. I dont want to hear from you either.

You're being way out of line there. Nothing he said was false, nowhere did he suggest genocide, and certainly nowhere did he claim they were a race. He was just responding to another poster that in fact gypsies aren't very much liked in the areas they visit. Wherever a band of gypsies roams in the uk they squat on land without permission, they cause trouble in the neighbourhood and then when they leave they leave behind a huge pile of rubbish and human waste in the plot they occupied. I'm not condoning any violence against them, but like any other culture or society which deliberately excludes itself from the mainstream and is involved in criminal activity gypsies attract a fair amount of negative publicity.

I thought ireland was having problems with gypsies themselves? Last I heard many of the ex-irish gypsies who were in england have moved back, or maybe thats why you're defending them, in the family?

 

[Rusty Edge]

sw99, do you have an opinion on random events in the game?

Would you like to see them expanded or developed somehow?