[MOD][WARLORDS] ViSa Modpack

TAfirehawk · Nov 18, 2006

ViSa Modpack Team
keldath, mrgenie, TAfirehawk and rockinroger

Latest Patch Version: 2.10

Latest Full Version: 2.00

Designed for Warlords 2.0.8.0
Built on Amra's Modpack v2.0

Download Area

ViSa WEBSITES

ViSa Main Website All files in EXE format along with FAQ and Troubleshooting Sections.
ViSa Alternate Website All files in archive format (RAR, ZIP)

DIRECT LINKS

Automatic Installer Download for Full v2.00 for Warlords v2.0.8.0
RAR Download for Full v2.00 for Warlords v2.0.8.0 - Extract RAR and run Automatic Installer
RAR Download for Manual Patch v2.10 for Warlords v2.0.8.0 - includes fixes from ViSa v1.20 ***Please Read Known Bugs Section Below***
EXE Download for Manual Patch v2.10 for Warlords v2.0.8.0 - includes fixes from ViSa v1.20 ***Please Read Known Bugs Section Below***
Registry Key Fix for anybody upgrading from ANY version of ViSa BEFORE v2.00 ***Please Read Known Bugs Section Below***

OLD FILES

RAR Download for Full v1.20 for Warlords v2.0.0.0 ***Only use for old save games***
Old Version for Patch v1.40 for Warlords v2.0.0.0 ***Only use for old save games***
Old Version for Patch v1.50 for Warlords v2.0.0.0 ***Only use for old save games***

If you haven't installed v2.00 as a full and clean install, it is STRONGLY recommended that you delete the entire \Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Warlords\Mods\VISA directory and install a fresh, full version of ViSa v2.00 and then the latest patch, which includes all previous patches. Version 2.00 Full includes registry settings that are required by ViSa python files.

A 'letter' increment in the Patch Build indicates a save game compatible update, whereas a 'number' increment usually means the update is not save game compatible.

Please play with language set to English as full translations to any other language are not fully supported at this time.

ViSa Installation

Full Version

This mod is contained in an Automatic Installer, run the EXE (extract from RAR if you chose that download) and follow the directions.
To have the mod load automatically at game startup, edit the CIVILIZATION.INI file in your \My Documents\My Games\Warlords directory. Change the "Mods=0" to "Mods=Mods\VISA".
The Automatic Installer will clear the cache AND the custom assets directories.
Please use Add/Remove Programs option in the Windows Control Panel to remove ViSa to clear the registry keys.

Patch Update

The latest patch is contained in an EXE and RAR format. Please run the EXE or extract the RAR to the \Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Warlords\Mods\VISA directory.
You may need to clear the cache by deleting everything in the C:\Documents and Settings\{YOUR USERNAME}\Application Data\My Games\Warlords\cache before starting the game (highly recommended).

ViSa Highlights

Amra's Modpack

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ViSa Modpack Additions/Changes

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ViSa Credits and Thanks

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ViSa Screenshots

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ViSa Updates

Known Bugs

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Patch Notes

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ViSa Future Changes

ViSa Modpack Team List

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Player Request List

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Items with a * are anticipated to be in next patch.

lord_graywolfe · Nov 18, 2006

TAfirehawk said:
What do you mean 'made a folder for it under the mods folder'?

That is how all mods work...or I am misreading something here but you must have not installed it properly.

well thats what i thought since all the others ive downloaded and installed came with thier own folders but yours didnt, so i made a folder for it and put everything in there. since doing that i havnt had any problems with it. i dont know why but im not complaining.

civ4ludo · Nov 19, 2006

TAfirehawk said:
(snip)

BTW, for everybody's info...for ViSa and any Mod you should be starting games via the Custom Game option as it is quite easy for a mod to have options there, not to mention the 15-20 Firaxis already had on that screen.

Two questions:
- where are these choices stored by Civ4? (I should think in the .ini file)
- are these choices in the .ini file kept for next time? (provided you don't clean any cache)

This is because if one wants to load a particular map file, the custom game screen does not come up and you can't make those choices. BUT, if they are stored somewhere, one could rely on that. In other words, Civ4 would "know" that you want a particular set of options, and then these are used when you play on map XYZ instead of using the custom game map options.

Does anybody know if this makes any sense?

chipper_30 · Nov 19, 2006

civ4ludo said:
Two questions:
- where are these choices stored by Civ4? (I should think in the .ini file)
- are these choices in the .ini file kept for next time? (provided you don't clean any cache)

This is because if one wants to load a particular map file, the custom game screen does not come up and you can't make those choices. BUT, if they are stored somewhere, one could rely on that. In other words, Civ4 would "know" that you want a particular set of options, and then these are used when you play on map XYZ instead of using the custom game map options.

Does anybody know if this makes any sense?

I've never played with a particular map file, and always with the custom game screen, so I don't know if the options used are the ones saved from the last game... But it would make sense and you can surely check if your theory is right...
The options are saved in CivilizationIV.ini under [GAME] ;Game Options , ;Victory Conditions and others... They are encoded in binary in the order of the options (So 110 for ex. means that the first 2 options are ON and the 3rd OFF).
You can then check in your game which options are on (not sure if this is possible in the game, if not by saving a WorldBuilder file and opening it with a text editor) and see if your theory is right!

TAfirehawk · Nov 19, 2006

lord_graywolfe said:
well thats what i thought since all the others ive downloaded and installed came with thier own folders but yours didnt, so i made a folder for it and put everything in there. since doing that i havnt had any problems with it. i dont know why but im not complaining.

ViSa of course installs in its own folder...only bypassing the install and doing something manually can you NOT get it in the MODS\VISA directory.

As I reposted, please read the first post as the instructions are pretty simple installing v2.00 full.

TAfirehawk · Nov 19, 2006

civ4ludo said:
Two questions:
- where are these choices stored by Civ4? (I should think in the .ini file)
- are these choices in the .ini file kept for next time? (provided you don't clean any cache)

This is because if one wants to load a particular map file, the custom game screen does not come up and you can't make those choices. BUT, if they are stored somewhere, one could rely on that. In other words, Civ4 would "know" that you want a particular set of options, and then these are used when you play on map XYZ instead of using the custom game map options.

Does anybody know if this makes any sense?

It does store some game settings from the last game in the INI in the My Games directory.

I guess this is why we don't support maps for ViSa :lol:

greenflea3000 · Nov 19, 2006

For some reason I am unable to draft units in any of my cities.

I am currently using the nationalism civic yet when I look in my city screen the "draft" button is a dull gray and is unable to be clicked :-(

Thanks again for your help!

Rusty Nail · Nov 19, 2006

To TAfirehawk:
Would it be feasible to integrate a Limited Eras mod into VISA (and Warlords in genmeral). Jeckel did one compatible with civ4 1.61 on this site. This would add an attractive option and might be quite simple (I hope).

Donkey Puncher · Nov 20, 2006

Hey ta when it the genetic era cvisa version coming out thanks for the info big dog

seady · Nov 20, 2006

'bug': Kashir Archer oversized

Sivopedia: typo: phoenician sub should be "Phoenician Sub"

I don't know what's already been reported because i can't see a bug report database.

mrgenie · Nov 20, 2006

civ4ludo said:
Two questions:
- where are these choices stored by Civ4? (I should think in the .ini file)
- are these choices in the .ini file kept for next time? (provided you don't clean any cache)

This is because if one wants to load a particular map file, the custom game screen does not come up and you can't make those choices. BUT, if they are stored somewhere, one could rely on that. In other words, Civ4 would "know" that you want a particular set of options, and then these are used when you play on map XYZ instead of using the custom game map options.

Does anybody know if this makes any sense?

Hi People, I dont have time the next 10days to comment or work on anything, but i do read the forum to keep updated...this question bz civ4ludo i wanna comment though:

The custom game options are NOT stored in any INI as far as i can tell. in your "..\..\Mods\Visa\Assets\XML\GameInfo" folder you find a file named: "Civ4GameOptionInfos.xml" in this one all the custom options are set and their "bDefault" activates them upon loading the custom game options screen or not. so you might wanna look into that file. however, civ should store your choices automatically in any custom files, so any 2nd time you open any screen, it should be as you setup it your last time, if not, you might wanna check your "right" or "read only" settings for this file/dir...

I don't know however, IF and HOW these settings are loaded by civ if you load a particular map...but my guess is, if you can't select these options from loading a map, it means inside the map are such options stored, hence you are not able to use any settings done in this xml..

one other way you might try(although i don't know if that'll work) don't load it as a map, but as scenario. Good luck with your "special maps"

Balerion · Nov 20, 2006

I just wish to thank all tha Visa Team.
Removed the 1.50 version, installed the Mod (2.10) and just beginning to play. The installation routine worked easily 'n fine and no problem yet in the first turns of game. I'll report some little bugs I've found in 1.50 if they are persistent in this release.
Moreover I installed also the Blake's better AI (18/11/2006 version) and everything's working well in single player (and AIs are putting me in a corner on Noble where I easily won before).
Well done guys.

Bal.

TAfirehawk · Nov 20, 2006

Donkey Puncher said:
Hey ta when it the genetic era cvisa version coming out thanks for the info big dog

No clue...still working just to get the latest version from them...

Alondin · Nov 20, 2006

I've been running 2.10 for a while now, no major bugs at all,
except for the MAF with huge maps.

Only bugs I've found
- Splash screen for Isaac Newton has his name as Issac,
- Jungle Rocket Luncher should be Launcher,
- I can build Heroic Epic with out the requisite level 5 unit
(or, you changed the way it works and didn't update the documentation!)
- Sometimes City Guard upgrades get little pink bubbles instead of the
correct pointers.

All of these are trivial, only heroic epic affects game play.

Some balance type issues
Musket Manufacture doesn't last long enough to be of any use,
TNT plant is harder to build than to just research cannon so not useful,

And finally a request, can you add to the city display on the map
something that lets you know which cities have airports without actually
opening them all up? A little airplane icon would be good...

Alondin, on vacation!

spiralx · Nov 20, 2006

Hmm, running 2.1 now, and it seems as though the slow border growth option from the Cultural Influences mod is now switched on, despite it being flagged as off in MODS/Visa/VISA.ini. Am I missing something?

Just a quick question - what's up with all the different sized icons (and some looking low-quality in various places e.g. leader thumbnails) in the various popup screens? I've seen it in several mods, was wondering why that happens...

Forsaken · Nov 20, 2006

I found something interesting last night.
when my cultral borders go over oceans it alows ships that arent suposed to be able to enter ocean squares to do so wich is kinda anoying when the AI takes advantage of this and spreads faster then they should be able too

TAfirehawk · Nov 20, 2006

Alondin said:
Some balance type issues
Musket Manufacture doesn't last long enough to be of any use,
TNT plant is harder to build than to just research cannon so not useful,

Alondin, on vacation!

I agree on both points....not sure what fix to make yet as I am just trying to play the game to get the total feel...instead of the usual quitting of a game before 50% done because of a new patch

spiralx said:
Hmm, running 2.1 now, and it seems as though the slow border growth option from the Cultural Influences mod is now switched on, despite it being flagged as off in MODS/Visa/VISA.ini. Am I missing something?

Just a quick question - what's up with all the different sized icons (and some looking low-quality in various places e.g. leader thumbnails) in the various popup screens? I've seen it in several mods, was wondering why that happens...

Odd, Cultural Border Growth setting works just fine...and the change from 'normal' to 'slow' is HUGE so it would be VERY obvious as your first city starts out with only 5 tiles, not 9, if it is slow enabled.

Different sized icons mean you are playing at a lower graphic level setting, which is normal.

Forsaken said:
I found something interesting last night.
when my cultral borders go over oceans it alows ships that arent suposed to be able to enter ocean squares to do so wich is kinda anoying when the AI takes advantage of this and spreads faster then they should be able too

This is from Firaxis I am sure...and I really like it

VeteranLurker · Nov 20, 2006

So, last week I upgraded to v2.10 patch, using 1.20 full version, after upgrading Warlords to the 2.08 patch. Now I see there is a v2.00 full version, and a v2.10 patch. So, do I have to install v2.00 but still use the 2.10 patch? Believe it or not, this is not at all intuitively obvious. :cry:

Also, in playing in the version mentioned above (noble difficulty) I use the 3-square city radius and there are monsterously huge cities all over the map by the renaissance (cities of size 25+, BTW not even my own cities), and Apollo is built by the 1640s. While I like the 3-square radius a lot, it seems to be leading to super-huge cities much earlier than would be realistic for advances in farming/sewage/etc.

spiralx · Nov 20, 2006

TAfirehawk said:
Odd, Cultural Border Growth setting works just fine...and the change from 'normal' to 'slow' is HUGE so it would be VERY obvious as your first city starts out with only 5 tiles, not 9, if it is slow enabled.

Yeah I noticed it and tried it for a bit, but it makes growing your city incredibly painful so I decided not to have it on. Eventually modified CvCulturalInfluencesEventManager.py to have g_bEnableSlowCultureBorders = false and default to false in loadConfigurationData(), which may be where the problem lies as it defaults to True if it can't find the ini file.

TAfirehawk said:
Different sized icons mean you are playing at a lower graphic level setting, which is normal.

Ah, that makes sense, cheers

Senty · Nov 20, 2006

2.1 Runs smoothly here. Only concern for me is that frigate is next to useless for me in my games. i seem always to get ship of the line faster than the frigate. with cityradius 3 computers do beat me often too. other than the frigate i am happy

avoiding corporation cause of losin fort knox, wise or not

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