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We need troop transports, something that allows infantry to keep up with tanks. This looks nice...
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/al_fahd/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/al_fahd/
Soryn Arkayn said:Let me paint you people a scenario.
That's how you conduct a war. And I do mean conduct. Because any fool can fight a war; what I mean by conducting is controlling how the war is fought. This means attacking, outflanking, and suppressing the enemy so they can't launch a counter-offensive; they're forced to turtle inside their cities and wait until I come to knock down their walls and slaughter them.
If you people fought wars the right way, like I do, you'd rarely ever be frustrated by having Archers or Riflemen destroy your previous tanks.
Gustomucho81 said:One of my gripe with this Civ is the fact that the Technology don't go far enough. We have the same unit (almost) as Civ3.
Not enough new units, always the same ending : Tanks and Airplane. bah.. Where are the Robots fighter? the paratroopers ?
Robot Fighter : 28 STR, -5% war weariness (max of 25%)
Mech warriors?
Transport Copter/airplane?
Amphibious transport?
Mobile arty
Upgraded Helicopter?
I flew right through the Tech tree, by 2005 I was doing research on Future Techs, it is the first time I ever get Future techs on a Civ game.
Maybe they should change the "Future techs" and put "Building improvement", "military improvement" where you could upgrade your existing stuff...
Wrong. If you can dig a tank-trap you can defeat a tank. That requires the "shovel" technology. Secondly, a single tank wouldn't have enough ordinance nor fuel to kill over ~5000 people. Thirdly, almost all modern infantry divisions have organic, and quite lethal, anti-tank support.killaman said:My MODERN Tank gets destroyed by some piss-ant Rifleman. What the hell is that? Just ONE freaking modern tank in an open field could easily take out two regiments of rifleman.
Are you talking about the poorly trained, poorly equipped tanks predominantly arrayed in static defense?If you guys weren’t sleep the last twenty years you would have noticed that there were two wars in the middle east which totally showed off how Modern Tanks could take on so many regular tanks
You're taking the game way too literally. There are still "rifleman" and "grenadier" units in the world today -- it doesn't mean they're using 18th century equipment.let alone two hundred year old rifleman and 3 hundred year old Grenadiers.
Is this the same war where we've lost helicopters to small arms fire? Yes, it is.Oh yeah I also like how a Grenadiers /rifleman can take out my Chopper. Here is a hint, in battle the Chopper would have seen those guys from a mile away and taken them out from a mile away just as they did in a recent war called Desert Storm.
T100 said:You guys need to see the last Samuri, the old killed the new no problem.
killaman said:My MODERN Tank gets destroyed by some piss-ant Rifleman.
Oh yeah I also like how a Grenadiers /rifleman can take out my Chopper. Here is a hint, in battle the Chopper would have seen those guys from a mile away and taken them out from a mile away just as they did in a recent war called Desert Storm.
The Stealth bomber should be able to take out a unit of soldiers. We do have various types of bombs that would take out a large area and along with it any living thing minus roaches.
The first battle started on January 4, 1944 and the monastery atop the hill was destroyed by Allied bombing on February 15. Allied aircraft heavily bombed the ruins of the monastery and staged an assault on March 15.
During three failed attempts to take the heavily-guarded monastery of Monte Cassino (January 17–25, February 15–February 18, March 15–March 25), the forces of the USA, the UK, India, Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand lost approximately 54,000 men yet did not manage to seize the city or the castle overlooking the Rapido River valley.
The so-called Fourth Battle of Monte Cassino was fought by the 2nd Polish Corps under General Władysław Anders (May 11–May 19). The Indian divisions stationed there helped in the capturing of the main Gunnery for which a member of the Indian armed forces were awarded with the Victoria Cross for his daring raid into the gunnery and killing all there.
The expectation was that the ferocity of the bombardment would entirely destroy all forward German defences, enabling the attacking British troops to practically walk across No Man’s Land and take possession of the German front lines from the battered and dazed German troops. 1,500 British guns, together with a similar number of French guns, were employed in the bombardment.
However the advance artillery bombardment failed to destroy either the German front line barbed wire or the heavily-built concrete bunkers the Germans had carefully and robustly constructed.
Last but not least my favorite, NUKES. It’s so realistic that it takes about 6 or more ICBMs to take out a city of size 12.
killaman said:YES it is a game, and what makes a games FUN is a fair ballance. Obviously when modern warfare barely beats and sometimes gets beat by archers and rifleman then there is something majorly wrong with the ballance and THEREFORE the FUN factor is reduced.
And I know that one unit does not represnt an individual. I've been playing CIV since 1995 I kinda figured that out when I first started to play over 10 years ago.
killaman said::My MODERN Tank gets destroyed by some piss-ant Rifleman. What the hell is that? Just ONE freaking modern tank in an open field could easily take out two regiments of rifleman.
killaman said:If you guys weren’t sleep the last twenty years you would have noticed that there were two wars in the middle east which totally showed off how Modern Tanks could take on so many regular tanks, let alone two hundred year old rifleman and 3 hundred year old Grenadiers.
killaman said:Oh yeah I also like how a Grenadiers /rifleman can take out my Chopper.
killaman said:The Stealth bomber should be able to take out a unit of soldiers.
I refer to the Full Spectrum Warrior quote: "A great commander doesn't just accomplish the mission, he brings his soldiers home alive." (Or something like that.)Gustomucho81 said:Wow, I bet you feel good about yourself... You talk about using greedly tank but you wait until you are 1:1 againt low tech unit, what a coward you are.
In resume :
I wait until I can loose 1 unit every 2 fights against low tech infantry.
Yish, talk about " art of war ", why not use Airplanes to strike units before, oh mighty warlord![]()
With all due respect, you're being naive WarX.WarX said:The most valuable modern weoponry today is not a tank, or a nuclear missile (howcome we dont have Hydrogen bombs in Civ4?) but its the -airforce-. I repeat again, airforce is what counts these days (along with satellites).
With all due respect, and no offence intended to either you or your deep and thorough understanding of war, games and history... STFU (i say that in jest along with a friendly smile).
Civ4 is great the way it is.