[Modmod]Dawn of Knoedel - Comprehensive Rebalance Project

If I have my way, it won't stay that way for much longer.
 
If I have my way, it won't stay that way for much longer.

Excellent! See, doesn't it feel better if you focus your creativity on actually improving the mod rather than searching for new ways of shoving liberal propaganda down our throats?

Now then, I am just about done with the changes I wanted to implement. In fact the only thing that's left to do is play a testgame to see how fast tech progression is now, based on which I will decide on whether or not it's worth the effort to learn how to compile a DLL in order to cut down the tall poppies change some modifiers.

Unless of course you will move the civ modifiers out of the DLL within this week? :please:
 
That's not really feasible, more like by the end of the year.
 
Okay I know this doesn't really have anything to do with the mod but the back and forth between Leoreth and Knoedel is absolutely hysterical. You guys should do comedy sketches or something, you're wasting your time modding. loljk please keep modding; love you guys.
 
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Okay I know this doesn't really have anything to do with the mod but the back and forth between Leoreth and Knoedel is absolutely hysterical. You guys should do comedy sketches or something, you're wasting your time modding. loljk please keep modding; love you guys.

This many times. I dont know what Leo and Knoedel are doing here but I feel every topic on this modmod is something else than modding this game. So in case you wonder why nobody is posting here anymore is because you have your own small elite spam club and no newcomer will take part on it.
 
This many times. I dont know what Leo and Knoedel are doing here but I feel every topic on this modmod is something else than modding this game. So in case you wonder why nobody is posting here anymore is because you have your own small elite spam club and no newcomer will take part on it.

He failed as a man of the people and turned himself inti an elitist.
Anyway, this will go on and on and on and on
 
This many times. I dont know what Leo and Knoedel are doing here but I feel every topic on this modmod is something else than modding this game. So in case you wonder why nobody is posting here anymore is because you have your own small elite spam club and no newcomer will take part on it.
What exactly do you want from me?
 
Can't stop won't stop.
 
If someone would be so kind as to tell me what resources exactly are not accurately represented (something something bauxit and India?) I would be willing to look into it.
I remembered! Silver in Greece. Athens had silver mines, they were important for Ancient Athens' economy. Probably, silver should be on the tile with iron (and iron moved to other hill in Athens' BFC, if you want to keep iron resource in the game). I forgot, does Egypt have cows? Because in reality Ancient Egyptians definitely had cows. 1 cow resource is enough. Also adding dates (fruit) in Egypt and Arabia would be realistic, they were major everyday staple food in the region, can be dried for transportation, and Egypt is too unhealthy because of flood plains. Dates would provide +1 :health:. On the other hand, they aren't important globally.
 
Stone everywhere. How do you build stone buildings without stone?
And Islands on Denmark.
 
This many times. I dont know what Leo and Knoedel are doing here but I feel every topic on this modmod is something else than modding this game. So in case you wonder why nobody is posting here anymore is because you have your own small elite spam club and no newcomer will take part on it.

He failed as a man of the people and turned himself inti an elitist.
Anyway, this will go on and on and on and on

No, wait, it's not my fault, it's imperialist spies that have infiltrated this thread! I am still of the people, for the people! I am just fighting the propaganda war Leoreth has forced upon me!

What exactly do you want from me?

Unhand the means of modaction... I guess?

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I remembered! Silver in Greece. Athens had silver mines, they were important for Ancient Athens' economy. Probably, silver should be on the tile with iron (and iron moved to other hill in Athens' BFC, if you want to keep iron resource in the game). I forgot, does Egypt have cows? Because in reality Ancient Egyptians definitely had cows. 1 cow resource is enough. Also adding dates (fruit) in Egypt and Arabia would be realistic, they were major everyday staple food in the region, can be dried for transportation, and Egypt is too unhealthy because of flood plains. Dates would provide +1 :health:. On the other hand, they aren't important globally.

How much of that silver is still mined there nowadays? And the cows? Are they still in Egypt in any relevant number?

No new resources, no resources removed, it's just out of the scope of this mod and Leoreth has already filled Asia to the brim with stuff like Coffee or Tea. As far as I am concerned Oasis can stand for Dates.

I modified flood plains to give slightly less unhealth.

Stone everywhere. How do you build stone buildings without stone?
And Islands on Denmark.

Stone has the same issue as Iron I'm afraid.
 
How much of that silver is still mined there nowadays? And the cows? Are they still in Egypt in any relevant number?
Pfft. Ancient resources are very different from modern ones. Native Americans didn't have cows, coffee or bananas and now Latin America is the biggest exporter of them. Ancient Egypt supplied wheat to Rome during Roman Empire, but now Egypt is an importer of wheat, but exporter of rice. Should Ancient Egypt have rice instead of wheat? Almost all copper now is mined in Chile, USA, China and Australia - should you remove copper everywhere else? Etc, etc. Gold, silver, copper, coal, oil were depleted in real life in many places, but they never deplete in the game. Agriculture changes.

My logic is simple. Silver was in Ancient Athens, cows were in Ancient Egypt, and they were very, very important. Greek land is poor, silver would help Greeks to tech faster, cows would help Egypt with :health: and :hammers: they need. 1 of each resource (so no export) is fine. If they will remain in modern times, I see no big problem.

By the way, Russia has many cow recourses, but actually modern Russia is an importer of beef and other cow products.
 
And Islands on Denmark.

I recall seeing several places that could genuinely use islands, like Jejudo off Korea (bit of a stretch maybe?), Sjaeland for Denmark (definitely, absolutely, positively), South Georgia Island (right under the Falklands/off the tip of Antarctica), Götland and/or Saaremaa and Hiiumaa in the Baltic, Rhodes and/or Lesbos in the Aegean, etc. Heck, even the Frisian isles in the north of the Netherlands.
 
Gold, silver, copper, coal, oil were depleted in real life in many places, but they never deplete in the game.

They do? I think? I know for a fact that some resources are depleted in game.
 
They do? I think? I know for a fact that some resources are depleted in game.

Yes in Egypt there is a source of Copper that depletes...but is replaced by Iron on the same turn. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other examples though.
 
I expect you would update modmod and keep this place focused on this modmod. Really nothing else matters.
Oh, if we're in the process of randomly and presumptuously expecting things of other people, I think you should work on your manners.

It's not even like your complaint is justified, this is the only thread where things have gotten comparatively silly, and it's not even related to DoC itself. I think Knoedel can set the tone under which he wants to operate this thread himself, and frankly so can I for the rest of this subforum.

Have you ever considered that it's a nice diversion to have fun around here when you spend hours of your free time modding? That's right, I'm rather thin skinned to this kind of entitled complaint right now because I am sleep deprived because I stayed up late modding. Personally I like that this mod's little subcommunity is a little bit more lighthearted and familiar. It's not as if friendly banter would get in the way of other discussions. Have you looked at the forums of similar mods this size? They aren't full of all business discussion, they're just dead. I like this much better.

Not that I need to justify anything to you though. Even if your baseless insinuation was right I'd be perfectly within my rights not to work on the mod and just waste my time here for a change.
 
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