More Official Civ Leaders

[Muad-Dib]

Since the list and moddability of Civ4 seems like there can be more than 2 leaders per nation, what would be good choices?

America:
Thomas Jefferson - Expansive, Financial, Favors Freedom of Speech
Alexander Hamilton - Industrious, Financial, Favors Bureaucracy
John Quincy Adams - Creative, Philosophical, Favors Free Market
Andrew Jackson - Aggressive, Industrious, Favors Caste System
James K. Polk - Aggressive, Expansive, Favors Representation
Abraham Lincoln - Industrious, Philosophical, Favors Emancipation

England:
Winston Churchill - Industrious, Organized, Favors Freedom of Speech
David Lloyd George - Aggressive, Industrious, Favors Bureaucracy

Germany:
Kaiser Wilhelm II - Expansive, Industrious, Favors Nationhood
Karl Donitz - Aggressive, Organized, Favors Freedom of Speech

Japan:
Emperor Hirohito - Expansive, Industrious, Favors Police State

Rome:
Marcus Aurelius - Expansive, Financial, Favors Serfdom
Constantine - Spiritual, Philosophical, Favors Theocracy

Russia:
Alexandr - Expansive, Financial, Favors Hereditary Rule
Josef Stalin - Aggressive, Industrious, Favors Police State

France:
Napoleon III - Expansive, Financial, Favors Nationhood

 

[Xen]

COnstantine was actually a horrid leader; one of the biggest reasons the empire entered into military decline was his meddeling with the refroms of Diocletian.

Marcus aurelius; perhaps your missing the whole poin tof his greatest l;egacy; a book of Stoic Philosiphy, and his aggressive campaigns agianst the germanic tribes during his rule to classify him as such.

 

[Swiss Bezerker]

This all looks good,but are you sure leaderheads could be made for all these guys?

 

[Lachlan]

For Germany - two leaders :

Heinrich Ho(n)necker (It was the equal of Helmut Khol in East Germany)
Konrad Adenauer (West Germany)
Adolf Hitler (if he had make good choices... )

I have not again the game, so i don't know how civic's works really

For Russia : Lenin or Stalin

For France : François Mitterand or Charles De Gaulle

For England : Oliver Crömwell, William The Conqueror

For American : Jefferson Davis, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, John Fitgerald Kennedy

For Spain : General Franco

For Rome : Victore-Emanuele, Benito Mussolini

 

[Rhye]

For Rome : Victore-Emanuele, Benito Mussolini

Those leaders are for Italy, not for Rome.

 

[tdpatriots12]

I'd use Caesar Augustus and Marcus Aurelius myself

 

[Muad-Dib]

I used Expansive because Aurelius established a Roman colony in China, and Financial simply because I didn't want Roman leaders to fall into a predictable pattern. I know Constantine was far from perfect, but I have unperfect leaders up there as well(Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams, maybe throw in John Adams as the token paranoid schitzophrenic)

I'm not so much as starting a mod as I am throwing out some ideas for people. I didn't put Hitler simply because A.) he was the worst leader Germany had and relied almost solely on his advisors and cabinet, and B.) People don't like Hitler. People can tolerate Stalin because he "persecuted his own godless Commies" and not the Jews, even though he did.

I was thinking DeGaulle for France, but he was a bit of a blowhard(then again, so is Gaius Julius Caesar) and France was in a decline towards the end of WWII. They were liberated, but their colonies were rising up against them.

I think you could get away with Mussolini as a Roman leader, that's what he was striving for.

 

[HounddogLGS]

For American : Jefferson Davis, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, John Fitgerald Kennedy

Bill Clinton?? Are you kidding?!?!

 

[Wyz_sub10]

Bill Clinton?? Are you kidding?!?!

You gasp at Bill Clinton but don't flinch at Jefferson Davis?

Let me guess how you voted in 2004.

ETA: Ah...missed your location first time around.

 

[Cloud Tiamat]

Egypt: Cleopatra, Ptolemy (sure he was Greek but he established a dynasty in Egypt)

 

[mitsho]

I used Expansive because Aurelius established a Roman colony in China, and Financial simply because I didn't want Roman leaders to fall into a predictable pattern.

I'm sorry, but think, there is a reason why Marcus Aurelius is called the philosopher emperor! Philosophical is an absolute must for him. Other than that, Roman leaders could be:

Scipio Africanus, Aggressive, Organized, favours Bureaucracy
Pius Antoninus, financial, Industrious, favours Mercantilism
and so on and so on

mitsho

 

[eldar]

How about...

England: Oliver Cromwell. Organized (it was his son who wasn't... we'd be a Republic otherwise!), Aggressive, favours Representation.

 

[Speed Of Sound]

You gasp at Bill Clinton but don't flinch at Jefferson Davis?

Let me guess how you voted in 2004.

ETA: Ah...missed your location first time around.

I think Bill Clinton would be a fantastic choice! (although Eugene Debs would be a better one.) What about Harry Truman?

 

[Erendir]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt wiki

Ivan IV of Russia the Terrible wiki
Alexander III of Russia the Peacemaker wiki

Margaret Thatcher "Iron Lady" wiki

Emperor Jimmu wiki
Emperor Go-Toba wiki
Empress Suiko wiki
Emperor Shōwa (Hirohito) wiki
Minamoto no Yoshinaka wiki

and so on...

PS Too many Japanese?.. hm. It's because i think that current leader of japan has too bad traits!!!

 

[eldar]

Maggie - not that I was particularly fond of her, but it's a good choice! Organised, Financial (she did initiate the privatisation of pretty much every publicly-owned institution in the country), perhaps?

 

[trogdorix]

Since the list and moddability of Civ4 seems like there can be more than 2 leaders per nation, what would be good choices?

America:
James K. Polk - Aggressive, Expansive, Favors Representation

definitely.

 

[fauteuil7]

I usually play as Germany, so I'd like to see Neville Chamberlain as a British leader. His special ability would be that he can give away smaller civs' cities to aggressors - Optimistic, Organized; favors Appeasement.

 

[Muad-Dib]

One thing's for certain, Alexander the Great must be removed. He's the sole leader of a civilization he wasn't even part of.

 

[Roman Legion]

The US should be George Washington
For Rome-Imperator Augustus
I think these guys would be pretty good.

by the way De gaulle wasn't a very good leader, The United States let him march in first after we did all the fighting.

 

[HounddogLGS]

Well, if you do Bill Clinton, make sure you include a cigar and an intern in the leaderhead animation, since that is the only thing he'll be remembered for in 20 years.

Seriously, for America I'd say drop Nixon, Clinton and Jefferspn Davis (he tried to secede from the U.S., not lead it). I'm not trying to be political, but shouldn't we use notable leaders??

I'd say add John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, and maybe Thomas Jefferson.