MP Game - RewriteHistory - 18civ EARTH map historical start position

Adrian, any particular reason you didn't end turn? We just waited an extra 6 hours for time to expire after everyone had moved.
 
Annoucement!

India and Arabia have jointly declared war on persia! This is a pre-emptive defensive action aimed solely at preventing or at least delaying persia from developing immortals. This is not conquest. At such time as arabia has a defensive counter namely spearmen then arabia will withdraw from this war. The arabian people offer their sincerest apologies to the persian people for any inconvenience and hope that when this state of emergency is abated cordial relations will return. :cool:
 
oh, and I keep meaning to complain about having a starting spot with no trees, rivers, lakes or grass.
 
oh, and I keep meaning to complain about having a starting spot with no trees, rivers, lakes or grass.

Well you do have grass. and from what I can see quite a lot of decent resources. There are rivers and trees adjacent to your BFC. you can't have everything in your bfc. every start has advantages and disadvantages.
 
Every start in every random game has fresh water. Think thats my biggest complaint. Lack of water means no irrigation till I can bring it in from 5-6 tiles away with civil service.

My warrior is off covering my worker from Adrian. If you guys are gonna double-team me on turn 25, I might as well just quit.
 
Elkad you will be ok make a deal with them and enjoy the game. And this is not a random start its a earth map and you start where u are suppose to start mate.
 
except that zen modified the starts, some of them at least

how do you guys know adrian didn't lag out or smth?

and elkad, you gotta expect all sorts of diplomacy from humans, it's not like they're doubling you just for the hell of it, it's in-game reasons
there are ways out of situations like this

i hope you weren't serious about quitting
 
ahhh.... it is nice being an island nation ;) I am pretty likely guaranteed to survive until the modern era, at least.
 
@Elkad
Not pressing enter was simply a mistake. I done my moves in only one turn... sorry... I'm very busy with work in last period.
War was determined to investigate immortal danger... you are very close to me. You would offer me protective pact until now if you had peaceful interests.
It's India and Arabia interest in this war.
PM me if you have any objections at any time.
 
Well, not much point in sending PMs. I'm in an undefendable position (vs 2 players anyway), so either they keep their word about this "not being for conquest" or they don't.

Not like I have anything to offer for peace at this point.
 
To Elkad

re: your start

Before I edited the map your start was much worse as I recall particurlary in terms of food. I added as much grassland as I thought I could without making the historically dry country look wrong. I added rice which incidently is historically accurate as Iranians do indeed grow rice in the north. It is modern irans staple food. I can't remember what else I gave you extra in terms of food but I can see you do at least have sheep and deer.

Not being able to build farms elsewhere is until civic service is NOT a game losing situation. I know because a year ago I played persia in SP on the UNEDITED version of the map which was EXREMELY food poor and I won.

Immediately adjacent to your BFC are all the things you are missing namely rivers and trees. This is not ooc you can build or conquor food richer cities elsewhere.

I don't remember if I start with horses in your BFC but I think you probably would as if the map didn't have it to start with I would have put it in becuase of your UU. And if you are playing persia with horses in your BFC you have nothing to complain about.

Re: Your current game situation

You could have anticipated the potential for you acquiring immortals before your neighbours had spears would provoke some preemptive pillaging and planned for that. There ARE things you could have done.

I have already thought of a way you could defeat our ability to prevent you getting horses to the capital.

Leaving your capital undefended is risky in the extreme on a crowded MP game. especially since your city is on a plains hill! 1 warrior fortified on a hill city with cultural defence will easily defeat 2 or more attacking warriors.
 
I made defense plans. I kept my warrior home (I've never been outside my own culture), and in a position to beat any solo invader back to my capital. I built a single worker and immediately switched to military, I just haven't finished a 2nd unit yet. If I'd left my worker uncovered, he'd be stolen now.

Regardless, its unfixable now. So either you keep your word about "not a war of conquest", or you don't.
 
Once war is declared i can do everything a war strategy means including capturing your capital.
I think this discussion should be done in private. So, please no more public post here.
 
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