Multiplayer behavior!

[UglyElmo]

Old Statesman: If you need a partner to play with, just let me know when you are on and we can learn the MP game together. Well, you can learn it, I am a slow learner . . . I think I lost my first 100 games in Shogun: Total War before I won my first 1v1 game. hehe That is why I like team games: You have several other people to blame your losses on!

 

[oldStatesman]

Old Statesman: If you need a partner to play with, just let me know when you are on and we can learn the MP game together. Well, you can learn it, I am a slow learner . . . I think I lost my first 100 games in Shogun: Total War before I won my first 1v1 game. hehe That is why I like team games: You have several other people to blame your losses on!

I'll take you up on that ...but probably later rather than sooner. I will not be getting the game until after the first of the year (partly caution, but more the fact I am starting a new work contract; the holidays are coming and family life is very busy; and the fact I have a rule I only buy one new game a year... ) So you will probably have to teach me! lol

 

[Feeroper]

I plan on trying out the multiplayer in civ4. Never played a civ multiplayer before, and its something id love to do, I will have to add you guys to my buddy list as well as long as you dont mind playing with a multiplayer newbie.

 

[Zelgadis75]

Have any of you guys heard of Rabid Duck?

I got into a game with him once, we played 24 hours straight. He claimed no one had ever beaten him, but I sneaked a raiding party to his capitol and destroyed his spaceship. MAN he exploded with anger. The oaths were quite impressive. Of course, he then proceded to swarm me with nukes and helocopters.

In a game like CIV where you invest lots of time and energy into building your empire, the emotional reaction to its defeat/destruction is equally as vast.

 

[elderotter]

Hey have been collecting names of those who wish to play as per 18d's statement above. If so pm elderotter nuclearelephant or 18d. about 13 on list so far - only 6 have confirmed tho. This is for those who would like a mature group where flaming is rare. might be nice to confirm soon as when I get the game I will be playing. In fact you will know I have the game by my absence for a day or so lol.

 

[DaimyoDan]

People have different ways of playing games as well, for the longest time video games were a rage outlet for me. I use to be the nice guy that wouldn't do anything at school and I come home grumpy. Once I got home I start up a game I could vent with. Civilization wasn't really one of those though.

You also have people that like to trash talk and think it's a form of fun. When I was in Okinawa playing Halo 2 with everyone in my barracks, LAN cable throughout the hallways, (16 Players MAX) we would scream, curse, talk smack, at each other and think nothing of it. Then again, it was that kind of Band of Brothers thing we had going.

I never got into playing Civilization Online though, so I've never met any immature Civ players, I can't imagine it. Civilization is a game I always thought was much too sophisticated for such morons. Then again I picked it up when I was about 10.

 

[UniKorn]

I really disliked Halo2 multiplayer because you had to play against total strangers in order to rise in levels. Most of the time the strangers just screamed and cursed and stuff like that.
However in CIV4 you can make your own buddy list and play against nice people who don't flame and plus there are no levels that everybody immediately looks. I'm really expecting a lot of fun from CIV4 multiplayer.

 

[Lorteungen]

Thats true noone is going to spend $50 just to start problems on the internet with other people. Plus its only a game.

You must be new to the internet

 

[Shigga]

Well, I pray it wont be as bad as the Bnet. 2 of 3 will ask what country you are from, and when you tell them "Germany", the first thing they will ask if you like Hitler , state that Germany's still a fascist country and call you a nazi In fact it's gotten so bad I stopped playing bnet altogether, because I just won't put up with denying my own country just to have a nice, friendly game.

 

[TyranusBonehead]

I got so tired of the idiots I've encountered in on-line play, that I simply don't play online anymore. Not even CivIII/Conquests. The attitude of the typical online player that I've encountered is very aggresive, pushy, and such behavior leads to a game that is anything but fun and relaxed. There are exceptions, but not enough of them. In my opinion, when it comes to online play...I quote the horror master Stephen King when I say 'fuggedaboudit!'

 

[King Jason]

I'll join that mature group of friends so long as it's not an elitist community.

I think the only thing worse than immature B.net kiddies are those that claim to be better than them because of age or know-how.

That being said I've never MPed in civ, but I'm looking forward to giving it a go wtih civ4. Despite one might think I don't think it'll be a problem finding a group of level-headed people that just want to play the game for fun, regardless of win or loss.

 

[Varelse]

My main reason I avoid public MP gaming communities is not the language and immature stuff...I am thick skinned and can handle that stuff np; it is the immature attitude and gameplay.

My one foray into the world of online MP was bad - it was a game similiar to civ - and it seemed there were cliques of experienced players that got their jollies offing newbies. They would form alliances and gang up on anyone who was new - brag about it in the forums how they did it just becasue they could - they would hunt newbies down just to punish them and drive them off... and it was no fun being squashed everytime for no other reason other than the fact I was new and inexperienced...it was a regular occurance - enough that it soured me on MP play ever since.

When (and if, though it seems very likely if the next few weeks back up the reviews) I get Civ4 - I hope the community is a little more mature in gameplay etiqutte- and that players like these are quickly outed - only then will I spend money to join such a community again.

This is why I am hoping to start Civ4 MP within a week of getting the game(which I should get tomorrow), before people have enough time to get all that experienced, and to get in while everybody is still a newbie.

You know what might be interesting though? After a while when enough CivFanatics become experienced at online play we can make our own "Bully Busters" alliance that defends newbies from clans and alliances that specialize in ganging up on new players.

 

[Lorteungen]

I've never actually played civ or any other strategy games online. I play some online fps games though and cheating has been getting worse for some time now. Is cheating generally a problem in games like civ?

 

[Masquerouge]

I guess that since the coolness factor of Civ among cretins is much lower than, say, Diablo or Warcraft, we will not have the "pwned Noobz !" idiots usually roaming the blizzard games/ counter-strike battles.
But to make sure, I will play with my brother only at first

 

[UglyElmo]

OldStatesman: I figure by the beginning of the New Year I will probably just be learning how to build my first unit . . . I'm a slow learner. hehe

 

[jmc325]

I've never actually played civ or any other strategy games online. I play some online fps games though and cheating has been getting worse for some time now. Is cheating generally a problem in games like civ?

You and I are in the same boat. I used to play 7-8hrs a night, 2-3 nights a week on Xbox Live. It took me a while, but I got into a phenomenal group of people(www.x-n-c.com), and it made a difference. Here the motto was "play for fun", and that's exactly what we did, it made all the games so much better because there was no ego involved. If you were a noob, no one cared.

My point is, that judging from the community here it will be just as good. I have never played any strat. game online...or any "PC" game online, except for online poker. I am always worried about running into idiots with big ego's(see it ALL the time in poker), that won't have the patience with someone new to the strategy genre of computer games. I hope to try out Civ IV online, but like I have said in my previous posts...I am pretty much a beginner. I have been playing Civ since I was in the Army(I think that was during Civ2), and have loved it, but I'm more casual than those here. I'm always willing to learn, and if I get my arse whipped....so what......as long as the person that's doing the whipping can be civil and mature, and that the game is fun.

I am also one of those types of hosts(I hosted a lot of games in Xbox), that I will restart games if the majority votes for it. I'm about making the game fun for all involved. I am truly not impressed with people's skills at a computer game, I'm just about having fun and meeting some cool people in the process.

While I haven't played much Xbox lately...I am still close to those at XNC(which stands for Xbox Non-Clanners...we didn't care for "clans" and that mentality).

 

[drjones]

Agreed, but does not politeness and respect tend to rise from maturity?

Heh I worked at a nursing home for four years, the answer is no. The changes in what is considered polite over time mean that older people allways think young folks are uncouth. Been like that since the greeks.

The real question is not how polite you are, it is: In a situation where you can not be punished for your behavior, will you behave well?

I have also played a lot of mmorpgs and there are 2 kinds of a-holes, the spastic 12 year olds who can't type or cooperate and the know-it-all jerks who think they are the only player not in the first catagory.

-drjones

ps. it wouyld be interesting to see some brutally honest player profiles:

I, Dr. Jones am bitter, often intoxicated and have a huge chip on my shoulder. I am a sore loser and barely enjoy winning. My ego can only be sated with the diminuation of others, preferably in a scatalogical manner. I have connectivity problems and an unstable homelife leading to frequent unexplained dissapearances. Drop me a PM for a game!

 

[elderotter]

I, Dr. Jones am bitter, often intoxicated and have a huge chip on my shoulder. I am a sore loser and barely enjoy winning. My ego can only be sated with the diminuation of others, preferably in a scatalogical manner. I have connectivity problems and an unstable homelife leading to frequent unexplained dissapearances. Drop me a PM for a game!

uh, well...hmmm gee. (quickly pword protects his game). ROFLMAO yeah would be nice to see that - bet money you would get a PM too. perhaps not for a game tho.

 

[knupp715]

My attitude toward MP games is this:
I don't care if the person I am playing against is twelve years old or forty years old, as long as they can be polite/nice and play in a maturely fashion. Also, I like it when people restrain themselves from quitting. I know that when you end up in a bad starting position it really sucks, but quitting just because, really makes the game for the other players a lot less fun. Not to mention, when one or two people quit, everyone else does too because of the lack of people. I also don't like it when people quit because somebody attacked them and they weren't ready or if they are losing in a war. I have been tempted to quit before, but I always try to fight to the last city and have the most fun with it. If the majority of the group votes to restart the game then I am fine with that. The key to any game is to have fun, and when people are acting rude, looking down on people, and quitting, it just makes the game that much less fun.

 

[knupp715]

Anyone interested in getting into the group (see post #65 in this thread) Elderotter, Nuclear Elephant, and 18D originally organized can also PM me if necessary. The list is growing bigger and bigger and I can't speak for Elderotter, Nuclear Elephant, and 18D, but I'm exited we are gathering such a good community to have fun games with. Hopefully this will be fully organized within the next few days.