My Immortal 1
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Plan still stands, Currency then CoL (I think), CS. I still have to find last 2 AI's and settle clam spot and probably on the stone after that. I don't see perfect NE city, could crab city be it? Gold will go to FP's city, Xian. Can Zhou, that barb city be HE? 3 grasshills & 2 desert hills & ivory and good food. I think that's best spot for it. 
Your "Spoiler for T81" shows T65. But I think Wang Oracled Construction.
Nice play so far.
You might want to settle a city to work the Deer and Fur, before Wang tries to settle on the tundra hill and steals 2–3 resources away from you. Not a huge deal, though.
Nice play so far.
You might want to settle a city to work the Deer and Fur, before Wang tries to settle on the tundra hill and steals 2–3 resources away from you. Not a huge deal, though.
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I didn't even thought about VC's, now I think culture might be decent option? I have some of 3 religions, with Philo (if I get it) 4. My diplo is messed up from all those demands though...Yep I was, thanks to those...
Actually it was 8 + barb city still 4T in revolt. To you it may be just to beat Immortal, but I think I'll stop calling myself rookie after I do just that!
BornInCantaloup
Agent of Chaos
Techs: you're way ahead.
Land & pop: you're way ahead.
Diplo: Jewish block would vote you a diplo victory, provided good relations (civics, shared wars). It would be nice if they built the AP.
Win: Kill Huayna, Elizabeth & Wang. In no particular order. Bribe Jewish on them while you're at war.
Tech:
You don't have marble. I wouldn't research Litt - Music, unless you settle a 14th city to claim the resource (I wouldn't: you have all the production you need to win).
I'd grab a military tech of some sort to invade a neighbour. They don't have cities, nor production, nor tech. The sooner you capture, the better off you'll be.
Seeing how you have CS already, I think the choice is between:
- Metal Casting (Forges, happies), Machinery. Costly and sturdy option.
- HBR. Nice and cheap if it gets you Elephants.
- Construction. A support tech without HBR and an easy trade (bad). Cats + swords is strong before longbows (good).
- Renaissance.
I think I'd head for MC and a Medieval stomp (Maces, Cats, then X-Bows, then Knights & Trebs, etc.). Trading for Construction would be welcome.
Once you have your tech and are in position to pump units, forget about military techs: tech up to Lib and an economic slingshot (e.g. Economics, Constitution, Sci Meth, Physics, Steam Power... whatever you can).
Land & pop: you're way ahead.
Diplo: Jewish block would vote you a diplo victory, provided good relations (civics, shared wars). It would be nice if they built the AP.
Win: Kill Huayna, Elizabeth & Wang. In no particular order. Bribe Jewish on them while you're at war.
Tech:
You don't have marble. I wouldn't research Litt - Music, unless you settle a 14th city to claim the resource (I wouldn't: you have all the production you need to win).
I'd grab a military tech of some sort to invade a neighbour. They don't have cities, nor production, nor tech. The sooner you capture, the better off you'll be.
Seeing how you have CS already, I think the choice is between:
- Metal Casting (Forges, happies), Machinery. Costly and sturdy option.
- HBR. Nice and cheap if it gets you Elephants.
- Construction. A support tech without HBR and an easy trade (bad). Cats + swords is strong before longbows (good).
- Renaissance.
I think I'd head for MC and a Medieval stomp (Maces, Cats, then X-Bows, then Knights & Trebs, etc.). Trading for Construction would be welcome.
Once you have your tech and are in position to pump units, forget about military techs: tech up to Lib and an economic slingshot (e.g. Economics, Constitution, Sci Meth, Physics, Steam Power... whatever you can).
I was thinking MC, but Music can be traded for it soonish, I believe WK will go there soon. Plus it would get me GArtist and I'd like HE, even if built without marble too. Hmm...I'm waiting for trades, but they come really rarely. Constr & HbR would be nice to trade for..
I was so concentrated on how to get WK that I totally forgot about HC & Lizzy. They should indeed be easy targets. I guess lack of recent play-time affects me.
I was so concentrated on how to get WK that I totally forgot about HC & Lizzy. They should indeed be easy targets. I guess lack of recent play-time affects me.
georgjorge
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Some good things in there, but I'm not sure what your plan for warring is. Seems like you couldn't decide between medieval war and Cuirs? If you wanted medieval war, you should have gone for Engineering as soon as you were able to and produced a lot more Macemen and Trebs with the whip. If you wanted Cuirs, you shouldn't have bothered with Metal Casting and Machinery, and should have produced Horse Archers instead of Macemen.
I guess the only good thing about it is that you'll have a few units around to defend against Wang if he targets you (it always is embarassing trying to stop a medieval army with nothing but ten Horse Archers
).
Great work on your tech rate though, if you don't get declared on now you should pretty much win this game. Just remember not to stop Cuir production and warring too early.
I guess the only good thing about it is that you'll have a few units around to defend against Wang if he targets you (it always is embarassing trying to stop a medieval army with nothing but ten Horse Archers
).Great work on your tech rate though, if you don't get declared on now you should pretty much win this game. Just remember not to stop Cuir production and warring too early.
Yeah I know, I dunno 
Didn't know what I want really, misjudged time when I could start building units I guess. Plus, good tech-rate allowed me to tech quite easily through all that. I probably could've build some wealth in between basic infra and go for Cuirs. I'll go there now but I think I'll start one war soon and get Cuzco and all it's WW's. Unless WK will have other plans.
Edit: Now at the end of GAge I should switch out of Pacifism and adopt OR instead? Should I stay in Buddhism or switch to some other or out of every religion? I have at least one of every religion.
Didn't know what I want really, misjudged time when I could start building units I guess. Plus, good tech-rate allowed me to tech quite easily through all that. I probably could've build some wealth in between basic infra and go for Cuirs. I'll go there now but I think I'll start one war soon and get Cuzco and all it's WW's. Unless WK will have other plans.
Edit: Now at the end of GAge I should switch out of Pacifism and adopt OR instead? Should I stay in Buddhism or switch to some other or out of every religion? I have at least one of every religion.
Here I sold & traded maps for total of 200 gold & 2 AI maps. 580AD HC built MoM and Ramesses DoW'd him. So I whipped some units to join the party and in 620AD I DoW'd him too.
I suspect you are going to win.
I'd personally Lib MT and clear the map with Cuirassiers; it's always nice to Lib an impressive tech, but with your current land and tech advantage, you can just overwhelm the AI with superior troops and numbers. You have two small soft targets before you have to deal with Sitting Bull.
Don't forget to cancel resource deals after the ten turns are up. Unless you have a reason to trade Corn to Elizabeth and Horse to SB?
I'd personally Lib MT and clear the map with Cuirassiers; it's always nice to Lib an impressive tech, but with your current land and tech advantage, you can just overwhelm the AI with superior troops and numbers. You have two small soft targets before you have to deal with Sitting Bull.
Don't forget to cancel resource deals after the ten turns are up. Unless you have a reason to trade Corn to Elizabeth and Horse to SB?
Thanks, will check those. SB demanded horses and corn I gifted Lizzy was double. I gifted some early game to improve relations, thanks for reminding me! It should be faster to deal with Lizzy & WK with libbin' MT, I like cannons tho. 
They're unstoppable for the next 500 years or more. Will see what will next GP be....altho, everyone here seems saturated with Cuirs wars I think I never used them like that, mostly I try to lib Steel.
They're unstoppable for the next 500 years or more. Will see what will next GP be....altho, everyone here seems saturated with Cuirs wars I think I never used them like that, mostly I try to lib Steel.
I sold Calender to Ragnar (30) and traded bananas to SB for 7 gpt. I stopped researching Lib 100 beakers to go and switched to GPowdwer, binary for 3 turns to see what next GP will be. While WK & HC were fighting outside of a city I came next to O...tambo.
georgjorge
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Nice work!
At this point, you should think about how you win this game. If you go for Domination/Conqest, I would advise to just make lots and lots of Cuirassiers with whips everywhere but the capital. No-one is even remotely close to Rifling so they should be enough to win this map by chain vassaling (starting with the more advanced AIs) - and even if they don't your capital should get you to Rifling + Steel and allow you to kill off the last ones with Cavalry + Cannons. If you want to go for Diplomatic Victory, you would at least have to switch into Judaism and bribe Elizabeth into Judaism yourself.
At this point, you should think about how you win this game. If you go for Domination/Conqest, I would advise to just make lots and lots of Cuirassiers with whips everywhere but the capital. No-one is even remotely close to Rifling so they should be enough to win this map by chain vassaling (starting with the more advanced AIs) - and even if they don't your capital should get you to Rifling + Steel and allow you to kill off the last ones with Cavalry + Cannons. If you want to go for Diplomatic Victory, you would at least have to switch into Judaism and bribe Elizabeth into Judaism yourself.
