Blkbird: I guess at this point we must say to each his own, and agree to disagree. I don't know why I'm being so adamant about it - maybe it's just me being stubborn. After all, I like my own flag design better than either of the "redone" Swissempire flags. It's up to the people to decide. I would like it to be noted, however, that the poll should only decide which design to use, after which a second poll (if necessary) would decide which version of the selected design to use. Did that make sense?