Naming units & cities

[Man'O'Action]

Yes I would agree with my fellow IIP member Stilgar. I think the renaming voting is an easy access way to involve more casual members, and I don't think it takes too much time. What else are we doing but voting?

 

[Alphawolf]

I agree with my fellow IIP members (I too lazy to type it) I also think it should be done on a case by case basis.

-the Wolf

 

[Gloriana]

Agreed as well! Thought we were not a voting block..?

 

[Alphawolf]

Agreed as well! Thought we were not a voting block..?

We aren't, but even a herd of cats will all go the same direction once in a Blue moon.

-the Wolf

 

[Man'O'Action]

We aren't, but even a herd of cats will all go the same direction once in a Blue moon.

-the Wolf

We've used so many metaphors that I don't know what we're talking about any more.

 

[Alphawolf]

We've used so many metaphors that I don't know what we're talking about any more.

There was a purpose to this thread other than confusing those with out a working knowledge of American/English idioms?

-the Wolf

 

[Stilgar08]

First of all: Thanks for your support of my suggestions!

You really lubricate honey around my moustache (German Idiom for "to butter somebody up" )

Second:

There was a purpose to this thread other than confusing those with out a working knowledge of American/English idioms?

With this post I'd like to kill two birds with one stone (correct? ) or as we say in German "slap two flies with one clap!"

I raised some questions in my post as well and if anyone knows or has an opinion about that, please let us know:

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Cities: poll about selected suggestions (maybe selected by the governor of the new city) - every citizen has a vote, inhabitants of the city count twice (good idea??? - I don't know... We should definitely limit the ability to move in and out just to push votes for certain cities... What do you think?

How about that: governor of that city selects from the suggestions?
inhabitants have 2, all other citizens have 1 vote? Is this doable? It should be...

sites, interesting geographical things like massive goldsources in connected hills or mountains and passages: Did I understand that right? When we put signs on these (you can see them from the strategic/global view) they don't get saved and we loose them after reloading???

If these signs don't get saved then let's not bother about naming mountains, landsides or straits and coastlines (would be a pity...)

So CAN you name sites and keep them or do we loose them when reloading??

 

[Man'O'Action]

I don't know why the citizens over in Duckburg should be able to have a say in naming my city. I feel like the citizens of the city should have complete control over their own town's name. Has there been problems in the past with this?

 

[Alphawolf]

With this post I'd like to kill two birds with one stone (correct? )

Correct.

-the Wolf

 

[Alphawolf]

I don't know why the citizens over in Duckburg should be able to have a say in naming my city. I feel like the citizens of the city should have complete control over their own town's name. Has there been problems in the past with this?

I agree with you here.

-the Wolf

 

[DaveShack]

So CAN you name sites and keep them or do we loose them when reloading??

No, sign posts are lost, AFAIK.

I think we'll defer a final decision on this issue until the Code of Laws, or maybe even a lower procedural layer than that. At present the citizens would have an implied right to name things by exercizing their right to free speech. The mechanics of how that is done can be deferred.

 

[Blkbird]

At present the citizens would have an implied right to name things by exercizing their right to free speech. The mechanics of how that is done can be deferred.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If by "name" you mean "name for themselves" then that's indeed free speech, but if you mean "name and label for the whole nation of accept" then no that's not free speech any more.

 

[Alphawolf]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If by "name" you mean "name for themselves" then that's indeed free speech, but if you mean "name and label for the whole nation of accept" then no that's not free speech any more.

Since the Signs can't be kept past saves, it's the DP can name anything they want, except cities, however he wants. Cities will be named in a democratic fashion. I the signs ever become permanent this will change.

-the Wolf

 

[Armed_Maniac]

well, we have seen alot of discussion (well... 2 pages... anyways...), perhaps a poll is in order?

Here are some things that have been proposed (okay, so i copied robopig instead of searching the whole thread for everything...)
1.Events
2. Location
3. Hon. Citizens

I'm personally for the third... but a list of options should be made and then a poll to see what the citizen think about this... poll open for 14 days?

 

[Stilgar08]

A poll's not necessary yet, as DaveShack pointed out. But maybe I'm starting an informal one... Concerning Man'O'Action's input about the honorable citizens of Duckburg: IMHO I'd like to have a say in the name of EVERY City/Location/Unit-name since it'll be the ID-Card of our civ. Therefore I'd like to prevent the moron's, err, noble Duckburgers from naming their city Duckburg in the first place...

 

[Blkbird]

Since the Signs can't be kept past saves, it's the DP can name anything they want, except cities, however he wants. Cities will be named in a democratic fashion. I the signs ever become permanent this will change.

Excuse me? Have you ever named a unit? I do with all my units in my single game, and they *all* stay "past saves".

 

[Alphawolf]

Excuse me? Have you ever named a unit? I do with all my units in my single game, and they *all* stay "past saves".

Yes I have named units, yes they stay past saves, I was talking about signs, that it was possible to name units slipped my mind

-the Wolf

 

[Blkbird]

Yes I have named units, yes they stay past saves, I was talking about signs, that it was possible to name units slipped my mind

Yeah, but unit naming will be a must for the demogame. "That archer in the jungle north of that other archer" won't be useful.

 

[Provolution]

Since Civ4 has less cities to build than Civ3, and that we will get more detail orientation on the career development of units, I suggest the following:

City Names. Name based jointly on geography (prefix or suffix), with the core name based on a combination of resources available, topograpy and finally what cultura/religious/scientific/civic development that took place there.
The civs name should reflect a history everyone can relate to.

Captured cities: Here we should apply the honorary citizen system, which is for citizens that made a major impact for securing that city. We can also change our original names, if someone wants to honor a citizen in a peaceful period.

For units, we should follow the citizens list for the sake of simplicity, we can be quite certain that we will use up all our names, sooner or later in this fashion.

 

[Mike Lemmer]

And I'm sure some citizens will disagree if they die.