Naval Mod, from 4000 BC to 2000 AD
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Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Yeah I thought your name sounded familiar but I can't pin where or when we talked or what about.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Thank you very much! No hurrys on the other thing, this will keep me busy for a while.
It was maybe 3 years ago I think? We started talking because we were both Christians I think? But other than that I just remember you were a really great guy.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Oh yes now I remember. How have you been my nautical friend?
Healz
General
Any chance of a PT Boat from WWII? I thought that would fit into the mod very nicely as well as being useful for WWII mods. I just remembered seeing obsolete tag when I was working around in the .xml file for the units. Try looking carefully through and you will find it. Or copy one of the unit instructions from the UnitInfo.xml think it is and paste it into a word document and print... Healz.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Pretty good.
Lots of things have changed in my life in the last few years but what do you expect with the Lord eh? How have you been?I was definitely thinking of this, could you please explain the exact role of it so I could put the stats in? Just a fast, small, hit-and-run torpedo boat? Sounds fun.
About the obsolete thing, no worries, as above, Dom Pedro made me a nice thing in the SDK that does it really well!
Edit: Oh yes, does anyone know what the <aiweight> (Approx) just under the prereqs in the UnitInfos does? I am hoping it makes the AI build more ships.
I have also made most cruiser's and destroyer's default AI Escort, Battleship's and Sub's Attack etc. May make it more interesting..
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I've been ok. Mostly sticking to Civ3 since I can't mod civ4, but I play Civ4 and I have been indirectly responsible for many of the new city sets around here(Mesoamerican, African actually sums it up).
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Glad your still kicking. 
I have never actually got Conquest, it is still like $50 at Amazon.ca.
But then maybe I love the options of Civ 4...
I have never actually got Conquest, it is still like $50 at Amazon.ca.
But then maybe I love the options of Civ 4...
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
how far along are you in this?
GeneralMatt
Emperor
This mod? I don't know, depends on how creative I feel. I want to add unique ships (already have a list mostly) and make it work for BTS when it comes out.. Maybe a few more ships.. you know tweaking.
I want to add unique ships (already have a list mostly) and make it work for BTS when it comes out.. Maybe a few more ships.. you know tweaking.Healz
General
I think that might be what it does but one of the best methods is to try experimenting with values in the AIweight column and see what happens. The PTBoat should have an air defence value as it carried guns and sometimes shot down planes but this should be relatively low, also it should have a low defensive value as they were mostly wooden, thin skinned boats that would sink if a destroyer rammed through them. Maybe half the defensive value of the destroyer and maybe 3/4 of the attack value of the destroyer. I don't know, it might require experimentation to balance it.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Thanks.
The problem with PT boats is it is all in the PWR stat, no attack and defence, though there is modifiers for the above.
So PT boats carried Torpedos as their chief armament? They dart in, torpedo the big battleship and dart out?
The problem with PT boats is it is all in the PWR stat, no attack and defence, though there is modifiers for the above.
So PT boats carried Torpedos as their chief armament? They dart in, torpedo the big battleship and dart out?
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I believe the total realism team is watching your mod and may implement some of its features in newer versions of TR. I hope so because navies are so overlooked in Civ in general.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Arr, that would be cool..
Who knows eh?
Anyways, this is my #500 Post, took me a while huh?
Edit: As an afterthough:
I am starting to add in Unique ships, though I do not have all the custom graphics yet.
Who knows eh?
Anyways, this is my #500 Post, took me a while huh?
Edit: As an afterthough:
I am starting to add in Unique ships, though I do not have all the custom graphics yet.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I have some ideas for you but they might require some graphics work on your part(some ship creation from you).
How about fill up all the sailing ship slots for the asian civs with Junk-like ships?
There are two Junks I know of, a Galley and another ship, but it would be nice to see a medival galley junk, Frigate, a Privateer, a Caravel, and a Ship of the Line Junk.
Your familiar with junks right? I'll post some concept art of completed CIV3 units a guy named Aaglo made shortly.
For example heres Aaglo's War Junk, a Frigate replacement:
Just make one abit bigger to make a Ship of the Line version.
How about fill up all the sailing ship slots for the asian civs with Junk-like ships?
There are two Junks I know of, a Galley and another ship, but it would be nice to see a medival galley junk, Frigate, a Privateer, a Caravel, and a Ship of the Line Junk.
Your familiar with junks right? I'll post some concept art of completed CIV3 units a guy named Aaglo made shortly.
For example heres Aaglo's War Junk, a Frigate replacement:
Just make one abit bigger to make a Ship of the Line version.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
That sounds cool! I remember Aaglo, quite an artist..
Yes, there is a junk from the Chinese reunification mod, and a Turtle ship, both unique ships (One for China, the other for Korea.)
But on your suggestion, I probably will do that, it would make it much more realistic! I have a little bit of other stuff to finish/do first, but If I put my mind to it.
To all: Of the ships posted for India on page #1 I think it was, what would you all think would be the best for a UU?
Yes, there is a junk from the Chinese reunification mod, and a Turtle ship, both unique ships (One for China, the other for Korea.)
But on your suggestion, I probably will do that, it would make it much more realistic! I have a little bit of other stuff to finish/do first, but If I put my mind to it.
To all: Of the ships posted for India on page #1 I think it was, what would you all think would be the best for a UU?
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
The Turtle ship was in the Mongol scenario.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Really? I though I downloaded it from here (Cham I think a kobkuson or something?) I will have to take a look!
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Hmm.. the one in the scenario might not be a turtle ship actually... I can't remember. All I know is that I thought it was completely useless since there were no other maritime forces to deal with in the scenario.
GeneralMatt
Emperor
Ah, it was called Ship_Asian or something and I just took it to be a junk. It is in the Chinese scenario too I think. Probably for Naval transport? I have never played the Chinese one before, and only a little on the Mongol one when it crashed when I met the guy with Mehmed's figurehead. But the sail will be a help when playing around to get more Asian ships!
