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Need help with Mongolia

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Rhye's and Fall of Civilization' started by Akbarthegreat, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Akbarthegreat

    Akbarthegreat Angel of Junil

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    For their land area UHV. Unable to complete it even on viceroy:(- I collapse even before I reach Jerusalem. And only settling in the core area didn't work either-I didn't even get close. Help?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. civ-addicted

    civ-addicted Chieftain

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    I'm playing RFC for years, and i manage to complete it with Mongolia once. On Viceroy.
    I found those additional units which you get essential, i was very lucky that no Pikemen were defending Chinese cities. Conquering China was rather easy, since there was only 1 Archer in each Hangzhou and Canton each. You need the second cultural expansion in every city you found, so beeline to Music and build Culture in every city. They must have accordingly large distance to each other, so their culture don't overlap at all, even with 100+ :culture:.
    After conquering, i rushed Yurts, Blacksmiths and Keshiks in every city via Slavery, and sent all units to Turkestan and Persia, and after that, i conquered Northern India, mainly for the Shrines in Patna. Build culture everywhere, and make sure that they all hit 100 :culture: asap.
    Raze Russian and Indie cites. I think Seoul would qualify as well, because it doesn't give enough Land squares for the city upkeep. I never used their UP because i don't quite understand how it works.
    Keep in mind that the Mongol stable area ends at Kazakhstan.

    I think it's all about those additional units. I never managed the Persian UHVs without them either.
     
  3. Wessel V1

    Wessel V1 Chieftain

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    The trick is to build settlers and settle Siberia. There is so much land available there that together with India and Shiraz you don't even have to think about Russia, Arabia, Khmer or any other nearby civ. Culture indeed is a must (Great Artist might work but is not needed). Mongolia is one of the few civs I succesfullly tried on Emperor. On Emperor you shouldn't enitrely neglect Keshiks, they are the your chance to raze cities.
     
  4. blizzrd

    blizzrd Micromanager

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    Wessel is correct. Some conquering for sure is required, but mostly it is about settling new lands and using culture slider to expand your borders in each city at least once, preferably twice.
     
  5. Jusos2108

    Jusos2108 Chieftain

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    Yeah, it is kind of sad that their UHV is way harder to do by conquering.
     
  6. DylanAraki

    DylanAraki Chieftain

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    Hmm, okay.

    Mongolia is pretty hard. So right off the back conquer China and settle Siberia. Your whole game is just expand till you collapse. Now there are a few techs to grab, but after that put the culture as high as you can. If you need money just demand it from Japan or Khmer. India is next. So you'll have really bad stability, but if you need a bit more land just settle some more. Now gather a bunch of keshiks in your capital and collapse that beast. Then attack 7 of those cities and raze them.
     
  7. Cetrix

    Cetrix Merovingian

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    Here is an historicaly trick I found few days ago when I tried again Mongolia in Monarch difficulty :
    => Start as 600AD scenario.
    => All is about to be fast. Fast conquering, but beware of gold "bankruptcy".
    => Try to have 2 GP before you collapse to launch a Golden Age ! It prevent from collapsing. I built GP on Qufu in China (3 super specialists) an Mukden in Manchuria ( 2 super specialists).
    => Build some new cities. 5-6 would be enough. Space them as much as you can. In Siberia and central Asia.
    => Rush the technology to build culture in cities (grab only the ship thingy technology you can research from start).
    => Try to grab some vassals and work your relations with some civs. I had khmers and vikings as vassals.
    Maybe force some ennemies to surrender, like russians (not China, too early in game, they will collapse).
    => Of course, since the start, build roads to west and build more and more troops (Keshiks only) to conquer.
    => Have some cities in "wealth" is usefull to prevent 0(-X) gold.
    => Dont raze cities, of course, before reach the 12% world territory goal.



    I had 12,60% of world territory and it's close to historical expansion.
     

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