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[soul_warrior]

hey everyone.
glad to be onboard.
indeed, we seem like a bunch of 16 year old virgins on thier first prom night.
for us (meaning ME) textually challenged, ill draw a dot map.
we need pics here, guys, PICS!!!

Max MATH, buy BW and WC.

 

[Own]

Good job, I guess I got it, though I don't have the save, I"ll download it right after I'm finish posting this.

So another city north of the snow mouontain? THa makes perfect CXXXC. Should that settler settle in place? We lose the small coastal commerce bonus, but would have to either settle on a BG, or waste a lot of tile by going farther north. I'm for setting inplace.

Edit:

we need pics here, guys, PICS!!!

Amen. I love pics, especially with a minimap. The minimap is the most important thinmgm, I'm big pictureish.

 

[Obormot]

I think it'll be better to go for literature after writing because it'll propably be a monopoly. We should be able to trade it for math. As for the cats: i'm not sure, i guess that if we have some iron or horses we shoul use swords or horsemen. Our UU will still be usefull to burn AI stacks.

 

[Own]

Sigh... Another corspost.

I agree with Obormot, lit is actually cheaper IIRC then math (except for the AI knowing it bonus) so it's better. And monopoly techs can double in value.

Edit: About cats, they're necessary. We can get more leaders, less casualties, and two attack of the numidian isn't dominant, so we need some help, and can't rely on the RNG. One strategy I've found is just taking each AI unit down to two, instead of one HP. The traditional method is redlining them all, but then you'll only have to use half the cats the other way, and can advance farther to take another city. You just need to make sure you're seiging from a road.

 

[soul_warrior]

dot map. dont settle in place.

 

[Obormot]

It's great to see some new rivers, but i think we cannot really make a good dotmap untill that warrior explores a bit. I am not a big fan of all that CxxxC stuff and i don't like placing cities in strict patterns, i'd say just place them in good spots whether it is 2 tiles apart or 5 tiles.

A note about MM: Our second city seems to be working on a BG or irrigated plains, but still get 1 spt because of corruption. We better switch that to the FP. And i think we agreed not to build mines near capital for a while, so the worker should irrigate the wheat (the mine that is being built now is OK, we can give to the 2nd city, but still irrigation is better)

 

[soul_warrior]

i agree about the strict CxxxC map.
not needed, and not very accurate right now.
its just for general reference.

but i would still settle the red-white dot now and go for the white next.
the warrior can go north on the hilltops first to see whats up.

agree also about irrigation now.

 

[Own]

Another city 2 northeast of the warrior would be good. How about some MP in the capital to tone down lux? 40% is a lot if we're gonna blitz to lit.

sw- you got good fog gazing skills. Own tests his skills, and finds a tundra tile northeast of the settler

 

[Own]

Soul dude, since you have the save why dont you play if you can right now. If you can't right now, I'll just play then.

Roster
Obormot- great start
nerovats- almost skipped
Own- up, maybe
SW- might swap wkith own
Pentium
Bigfoot
Whomp

 

[Obormot]

I agree with the city order and the red dot, but white should be place on a river. I think that 100 shields for a duct is terribly expensive. I guess the warrior will explore a bit before the settler comes there.

 

[Own]

There is an imaginary river that SW talked about. I'll trust his fog gazing skills.

 

[Pentium]

indeed, we seem like a bunch of 16 year old virgins on thier first prom night.

I'm 16 ....

Shouldn't we go for Philosophy after Writing? It'll get either us Literature or Math (I don't think we'll get it before the AI get MM).

I also don't think that SW's river is there, but if it is, let's settle on it. Otherwise, the dots look fine to me. But I've never been a good dot-mapper.

 

[Own]

(I don't think we'll get it before the AI get MM).

I don't think we'll get it before the AI gets philo.

 

[Own]

pre-flight- Move settler. Hmm... Carthage has been micromanaged badly. It used to be a 5-6 pop facotry but now it's 4-5. This is not good, it needs another tile mined. Oh, the workers doing that, so it's fine. Move citizen from forest to BG to make settler in 2 and growth in 2. Move a non river BG to a river G as it's unnecessary shields, so let's get some commerce.

1. Found Leptis Magna, work the wheat, as a BG shield would get corrupted. Hmm... with a less fuzzier view than that screenie, I can see SW was imagining things. America won't give us iron even for mysticism and all our gold. Go to Theodora and she'll give me the wheel for 170 and 7 gpt (not all our gold). Do'h! America still won't let us have iron . What a waste of money .

2. Carthage builds settler and then another one. Warrior finds nothing interesting. I've found a good location that I know of thatnks to exploring knowlege. Every civ, not just America has iron now. We're in a serious tech hole. America still won't give us iron. Had we built two curraghs ... Lower lux cause I can. Btw, we have horses...

3. Ottomans aquire math, are insulted by a potnential wheel for math deal.

I had to stop here and edit cause the keyboard sometimes doesn't work

3 contineued- uh nothing

4. Warrior find a good city location has a BG on it. The other two options are a northeast hill, which will cause three wasted tile the whole game. the grassland southwest will cost us a river spot, which will cost us 100 shields. We get the BG shield back when we get to size 7, and I bet that city will be size 7 before in 100 turns. Therefore, we should settle on the BG.

5. Warrior discovers a cow!!! Utica worker to warrior (MP for Carthage, will build rax when I can chop a forest).

6. Found Theveste, starts on warrior. Theodora knows writing . Carthage settler to settler. Settler heads to a less good city location, but the better one isn't being conteseted for with the Byz.

7. Change Utica to rax, as we have to chop earlier.

8. nada

9. CHange Utica back to warrior, as it can be done before the chop. Found Hippo, start on warrior to go to Carthage, should then go to rax, cause it will take another 2 warriors to be able to build a worker shield efficiently, so let's build something useful.

10. Carthage builds settler. Carthage is building the colossus for one turn to make sure the chop goes to Utica. Leptis builds worker to rax.

 

[Own]

Who knows these lyrics?

Tried to save the trees
Bought a plastic bag
The bottom fell out
It was a piece of crap

Saw it on the tube
Bought it on the phone
Now you're home alone
It's a piece of crap

I tried to plug in it
I tried to turn it on
When I got it home
It was a piece of crap

Got it from a friend
On him you can depend
I found out in the end
It was a piece of crap

I'm trying to save the trees
I saw it on TV
They cut the forest down
To build a piece of crap

I went back to the store
They gave me four more
The guy told me at the door
It's a piece of crap

 

[Own]

Here's the good stuff:

 

[Bigfoot]

Checking in. Sorry for not posting sooner, I just discovered this thread today.

 

[Own]

Let's keep this moving. Soul Dude, you got 24 hours. Be wary that the pink dot is a BG, and read my reasoning why we should settle on it turn 4. I don't honestly expect you to read the turnlog, just look at the screenie. Another thing, colossus is to make sure the chop goes to Utica.

Edit: 23 hours and 58 minutes

Edit: 23 hours and 30 minutes

Obormot
nerovats
Own
soul_warrior- UP!!!
Pentium- on deck... BE READY
Bigfoot
Whomp

Edit: Time limit IMO for swaps should go down to 16 hours. They don't call me grasshoppah for nothing. If you're busy, and not around civ, a swap can be aranged.

I searched in the SG forum "sid" and found many sid SG's and studied, studied, studied. Bedhead5 more sid virgins was another Carthage win, except the map was 80% arch (wimps) and most weren't virgins at all. Bugs Sid Virgin sacrifice I checked out, but arch again! LK's game was a disaster. That's all I've looked at so far.

 

[soul_warrior]

i really dont like the pink, but will get there.
and soon.
some of us have to work for a living, young .
post in about 10 hours.

 

[nerovats]

I suppose better to settle white before pink. To claim some more land. The AI will close on us fast. Can settle pink with next settler. What do we need colossus for or is it prebuild for GL, probably won´t work as some other civ will probably finish it in a couple of turns. Prefer to get settlers for as long as there´s room for settlers.
Getting the wheel was a bit expensive I think. Just for getting iron? We first need some cities and baracks to put the iron to good use. Better to build warriors first then upgrade. I think we should go for Lit, and try to cash in on that. Is best shot for monopoly. In the last game I played I had to research it myself halfway through te MA, for none of the AI whom all enterd the MA two refushed to do so.
I think 16 hours is pusing it. If I´m after an American player I won´t be able to do that (still have to work for a living). So keep it to 24. Maybe we should mix the roster to reduce lost time like this, eg american, azian, european,american,...(when possible, I believe we´re mostly americans).