das
Regeneration In Process
Ofcourse it doesn't - after all, if not for that, Portugal Proper would have been smaller by 25%...
NES2 V - The Great Game.
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Ofcourse it doesn't - after all, if not for that, Portugal Proper would have been smaller by 25%...
Harleqin
Hippo Power
From: Incan Empire
To: France
Most regal, generous Imperial Emperor Ferdinand-Philippe,
We hope that this outbreak of hostilities between Portugal and us will have no impact on the relations between our two great nations. We treasure and value our friendship. We humbly ask of you to help us against this aggression in any way you can and will. The arrogant Portuguese have no respect toward us, but if you talk, then they will listen.
If this war does break out into massive battles, then we will be victorious. Should the fortunes of war shine on us and see us victorious, then we will do what we can to see that France is given a port in Brazil as thanks for whatever support you can give us.
Humbly yours,
The Sapa-Inca
To: France
Most regal, generous Imperial Emperor Ferdinand-Philippe,
We hope that this outbreak of hostilities between Portugal and us will have no impact on the relations between our two great nations. We treasure and value our friendship. We humbly ask of you to help us against this aggression in any way you can and will. The arrogant Portuguese have no respect toward us, but if you talk, then they will listen.
If this war does break out into massive battles, then we will be victorious. Should the fortunes of war shine on us and see us victorious, then we will do what we can to see that France is given a port in Brazil as thanks for whatever support you can give us.
Humbly yours,
The Sapa-Inca
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
andis-1 said:
Das has (almost) never waited for anyone after the deadline, so do your orders now.
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Reno said:
Yeah, you should still have about 30 minutes. If you ask me, then you should attack Lissabon while the Portuguese army is being slaughtered in the Andes
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
From: Persia
To: Portugal
Persia views the Portugese declaration as merely a gambit for further imperialism. While certainly the Incan remark regarding destabilization was beyond civil diplomatic discourse, a declaration of war is a major overreaction.
With that said, Persia declares neutrality in the conflict and hopes that Europe will do the same.
To: Portugal
Persia views the Portugese declaration as merely a gambit for further imperialism. While certainly the Incan remark regarding destabilization was beyond civil diplomatic discourse, a declaration of war is a major overreaction.
With that said, Persia declares neutrality in the conflict and hopes that Europe will do the same.
das
Regeneration In Process
17 minutes left.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
*fears the UU*
(Hides from Gaelic assassins)
Yes, this is spam. I admit it.
IC: Allahu Akbar!
But seriously das. Don't kill Persia.
(Hides from Gaelic assassins)
Yes, this is spam. I admit it.
IC: Allahu Akbar!
But seriously das. Don't kill Persia.
Harleqin
Hippo Power
OOC: Actually, what I meant originally was that if the European powers get embroiled in wars then it will send shockwaves throughout the world. This will also hit the colonies and as there are already seperatist movements in many places then it could seriously destabilize the continent. We wanted NAP's as tokens of good will toward the preservation of stability and peace. Knowing that we do not wish any trouble could allow the colonial powers to concentrate on their own problems without having to worry about the Inca further destabilizing the situation whilst we could concentrate on our own nation without having to worry about attack.
I blame the translators for any diplomatic incidents
I blame the translators for any diplomatic incidents
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Thlayli said:
OOC: How would the Persian shah (consider the time period) even care about distant events of South-America? Seriously, and declaring neutrality is still 40 years out of question. You can stay neutral, but unless you have something of an alliance or NAP with either country of conflict, then you shouldn't need to make it public. The Persia of OTL (Persia of 1860's) would barely even be able to locate South-America on the map. Not that it matters.
das
Regeneration In Process
9 minutes left! *bursts into satanic laughter*
I *think* that it would be better for me to wait for andis and Panda to send orders, though.
I *think* that it would be better for me to wait for andis and Panda to send orders, though.
not even close one
das
Regeneration In Process
The Line of Death has come. Is Panda online? If so, I'll wait for him for a while...
Insane_Panda
Deity
Orders sent! (I am on invisible for some reason)
das
Regeneration In Process
Its in the User CP, I think.
Anyway, French (and Muscovite; tommy sent his just before the French ones came) orders accepted, no more orders please.
ThomAnder
Deity
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Can i join as poland after this update? (assuming it's still free)
Kingdom of Poland
Capital: Warsaw
Ruler: ?/Capulet
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
Army (Training): 35 divisions (Elite+1)
Navy (Training): 15 squadrons (Better)
Economy: Rich (+3)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Good/Competent
Infrastructure: Efficient
Education: Well Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Admiring
Projects: Industrial Works (SECRET) (2/4)
Nation Background: After the fall of the great Polish empire in the late 17th century, East Europe was filled with chaos and anarchy, until in 1764 Boleslaw Wojceh took over Poland and later Lithuania and Ukraine. And though it is yet to regain its full size, Poland has proven itself time and again to be a great power, and perhaps that it could attain a greater level still. Now, if only those Autonomist dissidents were defeated!
Kingdom of Poland
Capital: Warsaw
Ruler: ?/Capulet
Government: Absolute Monarchy
Centralization: Tight Federation
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
Army (Training): 35 divisions (Elite+1)
Navy (Training): 15 squadrons (Better)
Economy: Rich (+3)
Leadership (Military/Civilian): Good/Competent
Infrastructure: Efficient
Education: Well Educated
Culture: Hyperpatriotic
Confidence: Admiring
Projects: Industrial Works (SECRET) (2/4)
Nation Background: After the fall of the great Polish empire in the late 17th century, East Europe was filled with chaos and anarchy, until in 1764 Boleslaw Wojceh took over Poland and later Lithuania and Ukraine. And though it is yet to regain its full size, Poland has proven itself time and again to be a great power, and perhaps that it could attain a greater level still. Now, if only those Autonomist dissidents were defeated!
MjM
Deity
OOC:Yeah the declaration wasn't strong. Oh well, I was scrounging for anything really to get the war moving.
Grandmaster
Deity
Declaration of the Independence of the Hungarian State and Nation
There comes a moment in the course of human history when a Nation, having patiently endured the burdens of servitude and oppression, is compelled by the rightful love of justice and by the intolerable state of its condition to throw off its oppressor, and dissolve those bonds of servitude which have connected them with another. The Nation is in this endeavour justified before God and Man by Nature’s Law and by the untenable state of its own situation; nonetheless, a healthy respect for the opinions of Man and the Honour of Nations compels the rising People to state their grievances and declare their rightful justifications for action. From this we pray the Nations might learn that we take this step not from overconfident pride in our own wisdom or character, or from unwise and irrational revolutionary excitement, but instead out of direst necessity, to preserve from absolute destruction the rightful and natural existence of a Nation which has suffered persecution and oppression such as to test and surpass even the greatest patience.
The Hungarian Nation, having existed since Holy Creation, has, these last hundreds of years, been subject to the arbitrary and oppressive tyranny of a foreign Conqueror. This State, which has by force of arms, and contrary to Nature’s Law, overtaken the Hungarian Nation and stripped it of its natural and God-given rights, is guilty of the highest crimes against Man, and is perjured before Nature and Nature’s God. This felony impels the Nation to extricate itself from abuse, and singly justifies its means of doing such.
We, the People of Hungary, hold that all Men are granted, by Nature and the grace of Almighty God, certain inalienable and natural rights; that among these are life, liberty, property, and determination. That tyrant Power which at this time rules over our Nation has denied these rights to the People of Hungary, opposing the will of the Creator and violating Nature’s Law. That Power has stripped from free Men their property and determination, and kept other Men in bondage. That Power has perpetrated injuries which cannot be left without redress.
Almighty God, in his benevolence, has blessed this Country with all the aspects of wealth and happiness. These the foreign Tyrant has conspired to deny our Nation, taking the wealth of the earth without any thought to our right to it, and with it stealing from our People their deserved happiness and peace. That same oppressive State has denied the Nation at large its natural constitution and liberty, and substituted in their places arbitrary authority and abusive administration. In this manner, that foreign Government has perjured itself before God and the Nation, and made void its claim to legitimately govern. When a Government conspires to deny the Nation its rightful independence, that Nation has no other recourse but to throw off or else abolish that Government.
Such are our reasons, legal and justified before God and Man, for the dissolution of our connections to that foreign Entity which holds our Nation in subjection – for the severance of the sinews of Dynasty, Administration, and Commerce that bind it to a State which holds it down in oppression and servitude.
We, the People of Hungary, do hereby solemnly resolve before Almighty God and the Various Nations, by the rightful and natural authority of the free Nation, that we are and ought to be an Independent and Sovereign Nation, equal in dignity and authority to the States of Europe, absolved of all allegiances to foreign Entities, and free of all exterior Authorities save that of the eternal Creator. We hereby solemnly resolve to attain and hold by any necessary means this Independence which we have declared for ourselves, and to that end do hereby solemnly pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, our Blood, and our Honour.
In God’s name, and by the authority of this Nation,
x. Ferenc Deák
x. Lajos Kossuth
x. Gyula Andrássy
x. István Széchenyi
x. Lajos Batthyány
x. József Eötvös
x. Ferenc Pulszky
x. Levin Rauch
x. László Szalay
x. Bertalan Szemere
x. Miklós Wesselényi
x. Ödön Beöthy
x. Artúr Görgey
There comes a moment in the course of human history when a Nation, having patiently endured the burdens of servitude and oppression, is compelled by the rightful love of justice and by the intolerable state of its condition to throw off its oppressor, and dissolve those bonds of servitude which have connected them with another. The Nation is in this endeavour justified before God and Man by Nature’s Law and by the untenable state of its own situation; nonetheless, a healthy respect for the opinions of Man and the Honour of Nations compels the rising People to state their grievances and declare their rightful justifications for action. From this we pray the Nations might learn that we take this step not from overconfident pride in our own wisdom or character, or from unwise and irrational revolutionary excitement, but instead out of direst necessity, to preserve from absolute destruction the rightful and natural existence of a Nation which has suffered persecution and oppression such as to test and surpass even the greatest patience.
The Hungarian Nation, having existed since Holy Creation, has, these last hundreds of years, been subject to the arbitrary and oppressive tyranny of a foreign Conqueror. This State, which has by force of arms, and contrary to Nature’s Law, overtaken the Hungarian Nation and stripped it of its natural and God-given rights, is guilty of the highest crimes against Man, and is perjured before Nature and Nature’s God. This felony impels the Nation to extricate itself from abuse, and singly justifies its means of doing such.
We, the People of Hungary, hold that all Men are granted, by Nature and the grace of Almighty God, certain inalienable and natural rights; that among these are life, liberty, property, and determination. That tyrant Power which at this time rules over our Nation has denied these rights to the People of Hungary, opposing the will of the Creator and violating Nature’s Law. That Power has stripped from free Men their property and determination, and kept other Men in bondage. That Power has perpetrated injuries which cannot be left without redress.
Almighty God, in his benevolence, has blessed this Country with all the aspects of wealth and happiness. These the foreign Tyrant has conspired to deny our Nation, taking the wealth of the earth without any thought to our right to it, and with it stealing from our People their deserved happiness and peace. That same oppressive State has denied the Nation at large its natural constitution and liberty, and substituted in their places arbitrary authority and abusive administration. In this manner, that foreign Government has perjured itself before God and the Nation, and made void its claim to legitimately govern. When a Government conspires to deny the Nation its rightful independence, that Nation has no other recourse but to throw off or else abolish that Government.
Such are our reasons, legal and justified before God and Man, for the dissolution of our connections to that foreign Entity which holds our Nation in subjection – for the severance of the sinews of Dynasty, Administration, and Commerce that bind it to a State which holds it down in oppression and servitude.
We, the People of Hungary, do hereby solemnly resolve before Almighty God and the Various Nations, by the rightful and natural authority of the free Nation, that we are and ought to be an Independent and Sovereign Nation, equal in dignity and authority to the States of Europe, absolved of all allegiances to foreign Entities, and free of all exterior Authorities save that of the eternal Creator. We hereby solemnly resolve to attain and hold by any necessary means this Independence which we have declared for ourselves, and to that end do hereby solemnly pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, our Blood, and our Honour.
In God’s name, and by the authority of this Nation,
x. Ferenc Deák
x. Lajos Kossuth
x. Gyula Andrássy
x. István Széchenyi
x. Lajos Batthyány
x. József Eötvös
x. Ferenc Pulszky
x. Levin Rauch
x. László Szalay
x. Bertalan Szemere
x. Miklós Wesselényi
x. Ödön Beöthy
x. Artúr Görgey
Harleqin
Hippo Power
MjM said:OOC:Yeah the declaration wasn't strong. Oh well, I was scrounging for anything really to get the war moving.
I will kill all of your troops, cut them into pieces, ship them back to Portugal and sell them as Incan delicacies
A kind of shish kebab.Seriously, I think you've picked the wrong nation to attack, but we should learn in a couple of updates
Grandmaster
Deity
An Overview of the Provisional Government of Hungary
Hungarian National Assembly (Országgyűlés)
The provisional government is founded upon a principle of federal cooperation, in which local and regional authorities share power with a central national government. While the central government, constituted primarilly by the National Assembly, is reponsible for most major decisions and for the prosection of the War of Independence, local governments retain much control over the laws and policies of their townships and cities, and are instrumental in constructing the National Assembly. Here is a more detailed analysis of the provisional Hungarian federal system:
Popular Meeting: Local extralegal participatory legislative and administrative body, consisting of local Hungarian nationals. The Popular Meetings are responsible for organizing local militias and local resistance to the Imperial government, coordinating communication and cooperation with other Meetings, and appointing delegates to the National Assembly. Once Imperial authority has been removed in a locality, the Meeting will serve as the legislative governing body of that locality.
National Assembly: Legislative and administrative assembly, consisting of delegates appointed from all localities by the Popular Meetings. The National Assembly is the de facto revolutionary government of Hungary, and is responsible for raising and maintaining the military and coordinating foreign affairs and diplomacy. Once Imperial authority has been eliminated in Hungary, the National Assembly will serve as the national legislature of Hungary.
Executive Committee: National executive, consisting of ministers chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Executive Committee, headed by the Chancellor, is responsible for managing the daily affairs of the state, executing legislative policy, carrying out foreign policy and diplomacy, and managing the military.
Executive Committee Positions:
Chancellor of the National Assembly: Chief executive, Head of Government, and de facto Head of State, chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Chancellor is responsible for executing legislative policy, enacting foreign and domestic policy, and managing the operation of the government. The Chancellor has the power to issue Executive Orders, which carry the same force as legislation passed by the Assembly, in times of emergency. The Chancellor is Supreme Commander of all Hungarian national forces, and can nationalize the local militias by executive order. This office is currently held by Chancellor Lajos Kossuth.
President of the National Assembly: Chairman of the legislature, chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Assembly President is responsible for managing the operation of the National Assembly, maintaining order during legislative sessions, mediating internal political conflicts, and casting tie-breaking votes in the Assembly. This office is currently held by President Count István Széchenyi.
Minister of State: Executive minister for foreign affairs and chief advisor on foreign and domestic policy, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of State is responsible for managing foreign relations and carrying out diplomacy, and for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on matters of foreign (and to a lesser extent, domestic) policy. This office is currently held by the Honourable Count Ferenc Deák.
Minister of War: Executive minister for military affairs and chief advisor on military matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of War is responsible for managing the operation of the Army and coordinating the operations of the various Militias, for formulating military policy and doctrine, and for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on military matters and the state of the military. The Minister of War is the second-highest-ranking commander in the Army command structure, behind the Chancellor; unlike the Chancellor, he holds the honorary military rank of General of the Armies. This office is currently held by the Honourable General Ödön Beöthy.
Minister of Finance: Executive minister for financial affairs and chief advisor on financial and economic matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of Finance is responsible for administrating the operations of the Treasury, managing the government budget, and advising the Chancellor and Assembly on financial policy and economic matters. This office is currently held by the Honourable Ferenc Pulszky.
Minister of the Magistracy: Executive minister for judicial and legal affairs, and chief advisor on judicial and legal matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of the Magistracy is responsible for organizing and managing the judiciary arm of the National Assembly, which includes regional and national criminal and civil courts (local justice is handled by the Meetings), and the National Tribunal (which tries cases of high treason), and also for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on judicial and legal matters. In cases of high treason, the Minister of the Magistracy may serve as the chief prosecutor. This office is currently held by the Honourable Justice László Szalay.
Hungarian National Assembly (Országgyűlés)
The provisional government is founded upon a principle of federal cooperation, in which local and regional authorities share power with a central national government. While the central government, constituted primarilly by the National Assembly, is reponsible for most major decisions and for the prosection of the War of Independence, local governments retain much control over the laws and policies of their townships and cities, and are instrumental in constructing the National Assembly. Here is a more detailed analysis of the provisional Hungarian federal system:
Popular Meeting: Local extralegal participatory legislative and administrative body, consisting of local Hungarian nationals. The Popular Meetings are responsible for organizing local militias and local resistance to the Imperial government, coordinating communication and cooperation with other Meetings, and appointing delegates to the National Assembly. Once Imperial authority has been removed in a locality, the Meeting will serve as the legislative governing body of that locality.
National Assembly: Legislative and administrative assembly, consisting of delegates appointed from all localities by the Popular Meetings. The National Assembly is the de facto revolutionary government of Hungary, and is responsible for raising and maintaining the military and coordinating foreign affairs and diplomacy. Once Imperial authority has been eliminated in Hungary, the National Assembly will serve as the national legislature of Hungary.
Executive Committee: National executive, consisting of ministers chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Executive Committee, headed by the Chancellor, is responsible for managing the daily affairs of the state, executing legislative policy, carrying out foreign policy and diplomacy, and managing the military.
Executive Committee Positions:
Chancellor of the National Assembly: Chief executive, Head of Government, and de facto Head of State, chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Chancellor is responsible for executing legislative policy, enacting foreign and domestic policy, and managing the operation of the government. The Chancellor has the power to issue Executive Orders, which carry the same force as legislation passed by the Assembly, in times of emergency. The Chancellor is Supreme Commander of all Hungarian national forces, and can nationalize the local militias by executive order. This office is currently held by Chancellor Lajos Kossuth.
President of the National Assembly: Chairman of the legislature, chosen from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Assembly President is responsible for managing the operation of the National Assembly, maintaining order during legislative sessions, mediating internal political conflicts, and casting tie-breaking votes in the Assembly. This office is currently held by President Count István Széchenyi.
Minister of State: Executive minister for foreign affairs and chief advisor on foreign and domestic policy, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of State is responsible for managing foreign relations and carrying out diplomacy, and for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on matters of foreign (and to a lesser extent, domestic) policy. This office is currently held by the Honourable Count Ferenc Deák.
Minister of War: Executive minister for military affairs and chief advisor on military matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of War is responsible for managing the operation of the Army and coordinating the operations of the various Militias, for formulating military policy and doctrine, and for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on military matters and the state of the military. The Minister of War is the second-highest-ranking commander in the Army command structure, behind the Chancellor; unlike the Chancellor, he holds the honorary military rank of General of the Armies. This office is currently held by the Honourable General Ödön Beöthy.
Minister of Finance: Executive minister for financial affairs and chief advisor on financial and economic matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of Finance is responsible for administrating the operations of the Treasury, managing the government budget, and advising the Chancellor and Assembly on financial policy and economic matters. This office is currently held by the Honourable Ferenc Pulszky.
Minister of the Magistracy: Executive minister for judicial and legal affairs, and chief advisor on judicial and legal matters, appointed by the Chancellor from amongst the National Assembly delegates. The Minister of the Magistracy is responsible for organizing and managing the judiciary arm of the National Assembly, which includes regional and national criminal and civil courts (local justice is handled by the Meetings), and the National Tribunal (which tries cases of high treason), and also for advising the Chancellor and Assembly on judicial and legal matters. In cases of high treason, the Minister of the Magistracy may serve as the chief prosecutor. This office is currently held by the Honourable Justice László Szalay.
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