Never Before Seen Leader Elimination

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Abbas I (Persia) 21
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 20 -3 = 17, He was really good leader but I rather choose Ivan III, Vladimir the Great or Alexander Nevsky for second Russian leader and we already have Romanov leader in the game
Alfred the Great (England) 20
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22
Haakon VII (Norway) 14
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 5
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 16
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 21 +1 = 22, Arabia need second leader and more proper Arab leader while Saladin was Kurdish but leading Arabs
Richard I (England) 17
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 21
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 20
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22
Haakon VII (Norway) 14+1=15. Civ VI has lots of good beards. It is lacking in good mustaches and Haakon had a great one.
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 5
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 16
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 17 -3 =14. Only popular because of Robin Hood. Didn't care about England. Better medieval English kings.
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 21
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 20+1=21 A truly excellent monarch.
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22
Haakon VII (Norway) 15
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 5
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 16
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 14-3=11 A truly terrible monarch.
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22 (21+1) best option for Persia in my opinion, since I don't want another Achaemenid ruler and I think a Safavid one would be the best choice after that.
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 21
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22
Haakon VII (Norway) 15
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 5
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 16
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 11
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20 (17-3) nothing against Shapur, he was a great ruler and fighter, but see above. I'd rate Sassanid kings even behind Arcasid ones when it comes to how much I want them.
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 21
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22
Haakon VII (Norway) 15
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 5-3=2 I think he should be the first to go.
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 16+1=17 Meiji was one of the most active emperors in Japanese history. So he gets down voted by Japanese beliefs but Kanmu does not?
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 11
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 21
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 22 + 1 = 23 Bring Pracinhas Back
Haakon VII (Norway) 15
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 2
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 17
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 11 - 3 = 8 Not interested in him, there are better options of English leaders
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 21
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 15-3=12 - Come on, Norway needs second leader even less than Brazil! I don't even know anything great he did except for being sportsman.
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 2
Kanmu (Japan) 20
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 17+1=18 - I still say that Japan deserves a non-Samurai leader. And this is the best choice for such leader.
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 8
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alfred the Great (England) 21+1=22 There's a reason they call him "the Great."
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 12
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 2
Kanmu (Japan) 20-3=17 I don't know if the Japanese are more or less likely to take umbrage at the depiction of an ancient emperor over a modern one. (Meiji was the current emperor's great-grandfather and is likely still considered taboo.) Frankly, I'd much rather play it safe with a Shogun like Minanoto no Yoritomo.
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 8
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 17+1=18 He's sorta like the Russian Trajan, I would like to see him in the game.
Alfred the Great (England) 22
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 12
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Juscelino Kubitschek (Brazil) 2-3=-1 ELIMINATED, I would rather have Vargas for a second leader for Brazil.
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 8
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 20
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 18
Alfred the Great (England) 22
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 12 + 1 = 13. First king of modern Norway. United the country. Symbol of resistance to Nazi occupation. Threatened to abdicate rather than let Quisling be PM. Great mustache.
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 20
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 8 - 3 = 5. Famous but not a great king. Many better options for England like Henry II, Henry V, or Edward I.
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17 <-- Fixed. Siptah's down vote wasn't recorded.
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15 (18-3) Russia has a long and interesting history, no need to pick two from the same Dynasty, even if there is some time in between the two.
Alfred the Great (England) 22
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 13
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21 (20+1) Since the greatest leader Russia ever had (Putin) can't run for civ leader and Lenin usually gets lots of hate for some reason, he is the best option for Russia if we look at its whole history in my opinion.
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 5
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 22
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) (13-3)=10 20th Century Ruler? Um, no thanks!
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) (5+1)=6 I'm probably too late to save him, but a French speaking English Crusader King is very interesting in my book...
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 22 + 1 = 23 Really interesting, and its history against the Vikings invasions
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 10
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 6 - 3 = 3 He does not interest me, Alfred the Great is a better option in my opinion.
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 23
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 10-3=7 - Norway really doesn't need another leader.
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 18+1=19 - Yes please! Give me this man!
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 3
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 23+1=24 They don't come any greater than Alfred!
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) 7
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Richard I (England) 3-3=0 Eliminated.
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 17
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 24
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21 Hmmm....looks like this WWI leader will be my next target
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23
Haakon VII (Norway) (7-3)=4 I've given my reasons for downvoting him
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) (17+1)=18 I long for the day a Sassanid King is added to the game!
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 24
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 23 + 1 = 24 I want Pracinhas back
Haakon VII (Norway) 4
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 11 - 3 = 8 He does not interest me.
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 18
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15
Alfred the Great (England) 24
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 21 +1 =22. That France hasn't had a leader from the Belle Epoque is criminal.
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 24 -3 = 21. Brazil can wait.
Haakon VII (Norway) 4
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 8 .
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 18
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 20-3=17 I think a Mughal leader would only work well if a Maratha leader was release along him, maybe Shahu I?
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 15+1=16 I personally think that a Russian leader shouldn't be define by there family, but what they did. I think Alexander II's internal and external policies and his use of the military makes a good leader agenda.
Alfred the Great (England) 24
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 22
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 21
Haakon VII (Norway) 4
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 8 .
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 18
Taizong (China) 20
 
Abbas I (Persia) 22
Akbar (India) 17
Akhenaten (Egypt) 21
Alexander II (Russia) 16
Alfred the Great (England) 24+1=25 It would be great if he were added.
Al-Mansur (Arabia) 20
Georges Clemenceau (France) 22
Getúlio Vargas (Brazil) 21
Haakon VII (Norway) 4-3=1 Not very enthused with modern 20th century options. Shall we show His Majesty the door?
Ivan III The Great (Russia) 21
Kanmu (Japan) 17
Marcus Aurelius (Rome) 8 .
Meiji (Japan) 19
Muʿāwiya I (Arabia) 22
Shah Jahan (India) 21
Shapur II (Persia) 18
Taizong (China) 20
 
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