Never before seen wonders II - Elimination Thread

[Kimiimaro]

Bayt al-Hikma -(33-3)=30 I can't let it run away with the game. We don't even know how it looked like!

Hem hem... Hanging Gardens

Lotus Temple - 20 How come this has more points than Sagrada Familia? Cause it's completed?

My upvotes Also, according to Wikipedia, Lotus Temple was the most visited building in the world in some year. And it looks interesting. And yes, it's completed

 

[Guandao]

Hem hem... Hanging Gardens


My upvotes Also, according to Wikipedia, Lotus Temple was the most visited building in the world in some year. And it looks interesting. And yes, it's completed

Yes, we have Hanging Gardens and Great Library, both of which we don't know how they look like. Hanging Gardens might not have existed, at least in Babylon. But Firaxis has made them a tradition. As for Bayt al-Hikma, not knowing how it looked like makes me less enthusiastic about Firaxis adding it to the game. Would they give it a big silly dome?

I like Sagrada Familia better than Lotus Temple. It's taller and looks more interesting (Gaudi's work is always interesting).

 

[Xandinho]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -12
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26
Huaca del Sol - 19 - 3 = 16 Considering that Guandao will vote on it again, I can not allow this to return to 20 points . Chan Chan does a better Andean wonder than this ,in which I keep thinking it would be better as improvement.
Lotus Temple - 20
Oost-Indisch Huis - 30
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 27
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 31 + 1 = 32 Great scientific wonder

 

[Kimiimaro]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -12
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26
Huaca del Sol - 16
Lotus Temple - 20
Oost-Indisch Huis - 30+1=31 - And now the Dutch trade wonder leads the table
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 27
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 32-3=29 - A great scientific wonder, but I can't allow it to run away

 

[Guandao]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -12
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26
Huaca del Sol - (16+1)=17 The thing about Chan Chan is that it's an entire capital city (which could be added to the game as a City-state also, instead of being in the Inca city list like it usually is). This is a single structure. I don't build city-state improvements at all, and the Huaca will just give boring faith/culture yields. The Moche were my first in-depth introduction to an ancient pre-Inca Andean culture. I even drew a short comic depicting a Moche character for a University assignment. I will stick by it till the end.
Lotus Temple - (20-3)=17 I think the Bahai faith isn't important enough yet to warrant a late-game wonder.
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 27
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Xandinho]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -12
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26
Huaca del Sol - 17
Lotus Temple - 17 - 3 = 14 It would be distinctive on the map, but I'm more interested in historical Indian wonders.
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 27 + 1 = 28 More Persian wonders.
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Kimiimaro]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -12-3=9 - Impressive, but it's still under construction.
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26+1=27 - A great Ottoman trade wonder!
Huaca del Sol - 17
Lotus Temple - 14
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Guandao]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -9
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 27
Huaca del Sol - (17+1)=18 Yep, upvoting the Moche wonder.
Lotus Temple - (14-3)=11 If Sagrada Familia must fall, so does this one
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 26
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Xandinho]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família -9
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 27
Huaca del Sol - 18 - 3 = 15 It would be better worked as an improvement of the Moche City-state/Civilization . And I also have a greater desire for most of the remaining wonders.
Lotus Temple - 11
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 26 + 1 = 27 It makes a good ancient wonder, and can represent the Minoan civilization without including them in the game.
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Kimiimaro]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 9-3=6 - Yeah, let's add a wonder that would actually be a construction site
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 27+1=28 - The centre of trade in the Ottoman Empire.
Huaca del Sol - 15
Lotus Temple - 11
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Guandao]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 28
Huaca del Sol - (15+1)=16 CS improvements are not worth building and the Moche can't become a Civilization (lack of writing). I still think this is better off as a wonder.
Lotus Temple - (11-3)=8 Late-game religious wonder is pointless and the Bahai faith is not important enough to merit a wonder.
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Xandinho]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 28 - 3 = 25 I do not want this to go very far. I would like to have an Ottoman wonder, but I think Grand Bazaar would be better as a unique district.
Huaca del Sol - 16
Lotus Temple - 8
Oost-Indisch Huis - 31 + 1 = 32 Great option for Dutch wonder
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Guandao]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 30
Chan Chan - 22
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 25
Huaca del Sol - (16+1)=17 Preparing for the next downvote. I'm not sure if City-States with new abilities will be added. I think they will keep the same abilities but get a different name as Civs are added (like what happened with Jakarta). For example, Amsterdam is changed to a different name when the Dutch are added to Civ 6. I'm sure the largest abode structure in Pre-Columbian Americas is worthy of a wonder.
Lotus Temple - (8-3)=5 I have no need for late game religious wonders. And the Bahai faith isn't significant enough to warrant getting a wonder.
Oost-Indisch Huis - 32
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

Not even Kimiimaro is participating now....this thread will last into 2018....

 

[Kimiimaro]

Not even Kimiimaro is participating now....this thread will last into 2018....

I am, but I was on bowling with my family today. I will post my votes tomorrow

 

[Guandao]

I am, but I was on bowling with my family today. I will post my votes tomorrow

That's funny, I went bowling with my family last Saturday.

They have Bowling Alleys in Czech Republic?

 

[Morningcalm]

That's funny, I went bowling with my family last Saturday.

They have Bowling Alleys in Czech Republic?

I like that this conversation is going on within this elimination thread. Not really on topic, but charming anyhow.

Back on topic, re: the low participation rate, threads like this are intimidating for some due to the many options; I think that + the fact that not everyone knows these forums have Ideas and Suggestions elimination threads, is why these threads may take a while to get through.

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 30 + 1 = 31 (Very worthy scientific/religious wonder. Its existence alone could justify bringing back Harun al-Rashid, since they recently made Saladin a scholar rather than a warrior, though Saladin was almost certainly a more capable leader than Harun al Rashid.)
Chan Chan - 22 - 3 = 19 (Not nearly wonderful enough to survive. It's just a settlement made of adobe. Big deal.)
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 25
Huaca del Sol - 17
Lotus Temple - 5
Oost-Indisch Huis - 32
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[God of Kings]

Harun al-Rashid is the subject of a good number of stories within 1001 Nights. In fact, he's the most referenced real life person in the series.

 

[Xandinho]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 31 + 1 = 32 The game needs a strong scientific wonder, I do not think the Great Library and Oxford University really strong.
Chan Chan - 19
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 25
Huaca del Sol - 17 I'll leave it in peace for now, but I will not allow it to return to 20 points
Lotus Temple - 5 - 3 = 2 Its bonus would be to double tourism in the city that is built? Anyway, this would come too late to be worth any tourist bonus.
Oost-Indisch Huis - 32
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[God of Kings]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6
Bayt al-Hikma - 32
Chan Chan - 19
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 25 + 1 = 26 Yes to Ottomans
Huaca del Sol - 17
Lotus Temple - 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED A little too similar to the Sydney Opera House
Oost-Indisch Huis - 32
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

 

[Kimiimaro]

Aït Benhaddou - 15
Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 6-3=3 - Maybe it could be added after it will get finished.
Bayt al-Hikma - 32
Chan Chan - 19
Chùa Bút Tháp - 21
El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 30
Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 26
Huaca del Sol - 17
Oost-Indisch Huis - 32+1=33 - Trade + the Netherlands = Yes.
Palace of Knossos - 27
Tāq Kasrā - 28
Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 22
Theatre of Sabratha - 23
Torre del Oro - 18
Uraniborg - 29

They have Bowling Alleys in Czech Republic?

Of course we do. Did you think we were playing bowling in a swimming pool?