New City Names

[Surf Wax America]

Does anyone know where I can find longer lists of cities for the cities.txt file? I'm not a big fan of having 7 Cannae's or Capua's while playing. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Smash]

yesc that is annoying as identically named cities don't show up when you scroll thru....like 3 Paris' and you only will see one if do a "city scroll thru"

1.manually rename when you see duplications...doesn't take too long to recognize.You can see in game what cities have been duplicated by using the "find city" menu.

2.go into your city.txt and manually add some yourself.Or change existing ones.
You can also change civs,leaders names,attributes,titles..a bunch of stuff.

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This what the German city list looks like.I can simply add cities between Brandenburg and @STOP

Best make a back up copy of originals 1st.



[This message has been edited by Smash (edited September 06, 2001).]

 

[starlifter]

I'm not a big fan of having 7 Cannae's or Capua's while playing. Any help is greatly appreciated.

You can also name your cities manually when you create them, or rename them anytime later on.

Personally, in mid/late game as literally dozens or even hundreds of freight start being produced by my cities, I rename most cities in the empire in order to quickly ascertain the region and/or continent the city is located on. A quick glance, hit the L key, and scroll the first letter of the destination group, and bang... you're done with the freight delivery (unless enemy fighters are within 10 squares of your airlift route).

For instance, 20 cities on a northern continent might be renamed to N01 thru N20. 15 former Roman cities might be renamed R01 thru R15. 23 African cities might be called F01 thru F23... etc.

When scrolling thru advisors, or looking at trade, or airlifting (this is the big timesaver!)... you can find the desired city quickly and without duplication or ambigity. With "normal" city names, the time loss is enormous when you have huge armies, hordes of engineers, and/or hundreds of freight.

BTW, a naming convention is probably most handy if you routinely run about 100 or more cities, or don't have a photographic memory (like I don't). But if you have 7 Cannaes, then you must have a big empire, so maybe this might help.

 

[allan]

Here's my expanded city.txt. Feel free to copy it if you like:

(BTW I don't know why they have Arab and Inca names included here, these Civs aren't accessible (as far as I know, anyone?).)

@ROMANS
Rome
Veii
Antium
Cumae
Neapolis
Pompeii
Pisae
Ravenna
Hispalis
Viroconium
Lugdunum
Lutetia
Byzantium
Brundisium
Syracuse
Caesaraugusta
Palmyra
Jerusalem
Caesarea
Tarentum
Nicomedia
Seleucia
Artaxata
Aurelianorum
Hippo Regius
Nicopolis
Londinium
Eburacum
Arretium
Gordion
Agrippina
Cyrene
Tyrus
Verona
Corfinium
Mediolanum
Treveri
Sirmium
Augustadorum
Trapezus
Bagacum
Lauriacum
Teurnia
Curia
Torino
Milano
Firenze
Palermo
Messina
Livorno
Bari
Cagliari
San Remo
Rimini
San Marino
Padova
Bergamo
Reggio Calabria
Taranto
Durazzo
Timisoara
Bucuresti
Constanta
Arad
Cluj
Deva
Ploiesti
@STOP

@BABYLONIANS
Babylon
Ur
Nineveh
Ashur
Ellipi
Akkad
Uruk
Eridu
Samarra
Lagash
Kish
Nippur
Shuruppak
Zariqum
Sippar
Izibia
Larsa
Nimrud
Zamua
Khorsabad
Hindana
Tell Wilaya
Umma
Adab
Telloh
Nina
Ebla
@STOP

@GERMANS
Berlin
Leipzig
Hamburg
Konigsberg
Frankfurt
Munich
Heidelburg
Nuremberg
Cologne
Hannover
Bremen
Stuttgart
Bonn
Salzburg
Dortmund
Brandenburg
Dusseldorf
Wiesbaden
Lubeck
Vienna
Zurich
Pilsen
Rostock
Potsdam
Magdeburg
Augsburg
Breslau
Stettin
Danzig
Ulm
Essen
Kiel
Linz
Graz
Innsbruck
Bern
Flensburg
Konstanz
Luzern
Wuppertal
Wolfsburg
@STOP

@EGYPTIANS
Thebes
Memphis
Heliopolis
Elephantine
Alexandria
Pi-Ramesses
Giza
Byblos
El-Amarna
Hieraconpolis
Abydos
Asyut
Avaris
Lisht
Buto
Edfu
Pithom
Busiris
Kahun
Athribis
Mendes
El-Ashmunein
Tanis
Buhen
Bubastis
This
Oryx
Sebennytus
Cairo
Luxor
Port Said
Suez
Hurghada
Sharm-el-Sheikh
Gaza
@STOP

@AMERICANS
Washington
New York
Boston
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Chicago
San Francisco
Buffalo
St. Louis
Detroit
New Orleans
Baltimore
Denver
Cincinnati
Dallas
Los Angeles
Kansas City
San Diego
Richmond
Las Vegas
Phoenix
Seattle
Albuquerque
Portland
Minneapolis
Houston
Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Miami
Nashville
Honolulu
Milwaukee
Charleston
Indianapolis
Columbus
Hartford
Providence
Newport News
San Antonio
Santa Fe
Montgomery
Cheyenne
Omaha
Anchorage
Saint Paul
El Paso
Durham
Louisville
Baton Rouge
Sacramento
Madison
Reno
Des Moines
San Jose
Billings
Boise
Little Rock
Orlando
Salt Lake City
Tucson
Tampa
Biloxi
Green Bay
Fresno
Jacksonville
@STOP

@GREEKS
Athens
Sparta
Thermopylae
Corinth
Delphi
Pharsalos
Knossos
Argos
Mycenae
Herakleia
Ephesos
Thessalonica
Rhodes
Eretria
Troy
Marathon
Halicarnassus
Pergamon
Miletos
Artemisium
Megara
Phocaea
Sicyon
Gortyn
Mytilene
Tegea
Syracuse
Apollonia
Korfu
Piraeus
Ioanina
@STOP

@INDIANS
Delhi
Bombay
Madras
Bangalore
Calcutta
Lahore
Karachi
Kolhapur
Jaipur
Hyderabad
Bengal
Chittagong
Punjab
Dacca
Indus
Ganges
Lucknow
Varanasi
Pondicherry
Islamabad
Calicut
Goa
Bhopal
Poona
Rajshahi
Rangoon
Mandalay
Peshawar
Amritsar
Agra
Rawalpindi
Triverapatnam
Colombo
Kathmandu
Quetta
Diu
Cochin
Cuttack
Howrah
Pagan
Darjeeling
@STOP

@RUSSIANS
Moscow
St. Petersburg
Kiev
Minsk
Smolensk
Odessa
Sevastopol
Tblisi
Sverdlovsk
Yakutsk
Vladivostok
Novgorod
Krasnoyarsk
Riga
Rostov
Astrakhan
Kharkov
Grozny
Dnepropetrovsk
Maikop
Kursk
Kuibyshev
Magnitogorsk
Uralsk
Kazan
Vologda
Murmansk
Vitebsk
Batum
Tiflis
Bryansk
Tula
Kalinin
Yaroslavl
Krasnovodsk
Yerevan
Vilnius
Tallinn
Tver
Sochi
Volgograd
Khabarovsk
Irkutsk
Novosibirsk
Chisinau
Baku
Almaty
Tashkent
Frunze
@STOP

@ZULUS
Zimbabwe
Ulundi
Bapedi
Hlobane
Isandhlwana
Intombe
Mpondo
Ngome
Swazi
Tugela
Umtata
Umfolozi
Ibabanago
Isipezi
Amatikulu
Zunguin
Harare
Johannesburg
Soweto
Durban
Mbabane
Gaberone
Windhoek
Cape Town
Maputo
Lusaka
Bulawayo
Bloemfontein
@STOP

@FRENCH
Paris
Orleans
Lyons
Rheims
Tours
Marseilles
Chartres
Avignon
Besancon
Rouen
Grenoble
Dijon
Amiens
Cherbourg
Poitiers
Toulouse
Bayonne
Strasbourg
Brest
Bordeaux
Montpellier
Nice
Nantes
Le Mans
Le Havre
Lourdes
Calais
Dunquerque
Geneva
Lausanne
Brussels
Luxembourg
Versailles
Perpignan
Cannes
Monte Carlo
ClermontFerrand
Sainte-Etienne
Pau
Douai
Metz
Nancy
Mulhouse
Toulon
Ajaccio
Algiers
Martinique
Quebec
Montreal
Port-au-Prince
@STOP

@AZTECS
Tenochtitlan
Teotihuacan
Tlatelolco
Texcoco
Tlaxcala
Calixtlahuaca
Xochicalco
Tlacopan
Atzcapotzalco
Tzintzuntzen
Malinalco
Tula
Tamuin
Teayo
Cempoala
Chalco
Tlalmanalco
Ixtapaluca
Huexotla
Tepexpan
Tepetlaoxtoc
Chiconautla
Zitlaltepec
Coyotepec
Tequixquiac
Jilotzingo
Tlapanaloya
Tultitlan
Ecatepec
Coatepec
Chalchihuites
Chiauhtia
Chapultepec
Itzapalapa
Ayotzinco
Iztapam
Guadalajara
Monterrey
Oaxaca
Guanajuato
Acapulco
Cuernavaca
Queretaro
Veracruz
Durango
Tijuana
Mazatlan
Puebla
Torreon
Chihuahua
San Luis Potosi
Tuxtla
Hermosillo
Merida
Tampico
Saltillo
Juarez
Tepic
Tapachula
Pijijiapan
Quetzaltenango
Zihuatanejo
Laredo
Chetumal
@STOP

@CHINESE
Beijing
Shanghai
Canton
Nanking
Tsingtao
Xinjian
Chengdu
Hangchow
Tientsin
Tatung
Macao
Anyang
Shantung
Chinan
Kaifeng
Ningpo
Paoting
Yangchow
Hong Kong
Harbin
Chonqing
Xian
Loyang
Kunming
Amoy
Singapore
Taipei
Lhasa
Urumchi
Wuhan
Foochow
Shenyang
Nanning
Taiyuan
Kaohsiung
Tainan
Dairen
@STOP

@ENGLISH
London
York
Nottingham
Hastings
Canterbury
Coventry
Warwick
Newcastle
Oxford
Liverpool
Dover
Brighton
Norwich
Leeds
Reading
Birmingham
Southampton
Exeter
Cambridge
Gloucester
Manchester
Bristol
Leicester
Carlisle
Ipswich
Portsmouth
Berwick
Blackpool
Jersey
Guernsey
Sheffield
Folkestone
Plymouth
Bournemouth
Cornwall
Luton
Douglas
@STOP

@MONGOLS
Karakorum
Samarkand
Bokhara
Nishapur
Kashgar
Tabriz
Aleppo
Kabul
Ormuz
Basra
Khanbalyk
Khorasan
Shangtu
Kazan
Quinsay
Kerman
Ulan Bator
Kabul
Kandahar
Ulan Ude
Ondorhaan
Naran
Huhohaote
Bayanhongor
Abakan
Chita
Paotou
Ashghabat
@STOP

@CELTS
Cardiff
Kells
Carmarthen
Armagh
Caernarfon
Tintagel
Caerphilly
Cork
Rhymney
Iona
Rhondda
Illauntanig
Swansea
Durrow
Merthyr
Tara
Llangollen
Dinas Powys
Aberystwyth
Rhayader
Abergavenny
Dinas Emrys
Cardigan
Llanelli
Maesteg
Neath
Glasgow
Edinburgh
Dublin
Limerick
Donegal
Belfast
Aberdeen
Inverness
Dunedin
Perth
Derry
@STOP

@JAPANESE
Kyoto
Osaka
Edo
Satsuma
Kagoshima
Nara
Nagoya
Izumo
Nagasaki
Yokohama
Shimonoseki
Matsuyama
Sapporo
Hakodate
Ise
Toyama
Fukushima
Suo
Bizen
Echizen
Izumi
Omi
Echigo
Kozuke
Sado
Tokyo
Hiroshima
Kitakyushu
Sendai
Fukuoka
Kawasaki
Kamakura
Okayama
Naha
Hamamatsu
Shizuoka
Kobe
Niigata
Aomori
Shimizu
Toyohashi
Shimoda
Beppu
Yamaguchi
Yamagata
Morioka
Kanazawa
Hachioji
Chiba
Sasebo
Yokosuka
Hakone
Akita
Wakayama
Chitose
Kumamoto
Otaru
Atsugi
@STOP

@VIKINGS
Trondheim
Kaupang
Uppsala
Hladir
Aarhus
Viborg
Roskilde
The Udal
Lindholm
Jorvik
Westness
Jarrow
Skara
Ravning Enge
Birka
Jarlshof
Sigtuna
Odense
Lunde
Larne
Hedeby
Aldeigjuborg
Holmgard
Nonnebakken
Ribblehead
Thwaite
Askrigg
Trelleborg
Risby
Jelling
Vorbasse
Fyrkat
Kvivik
Oslo
Copenhagen
Bergen
Stavanger
Stockholm
Goteborg
Helsinki
Andalsnes
Malmo
Tampere
Jonkoping
Turku
Sundsvall
Reykjavik
Thorshavn
Huskvarna
Lillehammer
Rovaniemi
Bodo
Keflavik
Kiruna
Hammerfest
Narvik
Oulu
Norkoping
Eskilstuna
Vaasa
Christianstad
@STOP

@SPANISH
Madrid
Seville
Toledo
Cordoba
Valencia
Salamanca
Barcelona
Valladolid
Saragossa
Cadiz
Bilbao
Granada
Malaga
Pamplona
Vigo
Avila
Leon
Burgos
Oviedo
Santander
Ciudad Rodrigo
Calatrava
Cartagena
Murcia
Andorra
Jerez
Gibraltar
La Coruna
Tarragona
Girona
Lerida
Santiago
Buenos Aires
Bogota
Lima
Caracas
Medellin
Panama
Montevideo
Trujillo
Tenerife
Santo Domingo
Maracaibo
San Juan
Asuncion
La Paz
Barranquilla
Valparaiso
La Plata
Mendoza
Rosario
Managua
Tegucigalpa
Guatemala
@STOP

@ARABS
Baghdad
Mecca
Samarra
Damascus
Tiflis
Tangier
Raqqa
Beirut
Basra
Medina
Riyadh
Mosul
Beirut
Algiers
Tunis
Fez
Cordoba
Palmyra
Shiraz
Aden
Qum
Qazvin
Barqa
Tripoli
Mahdia
Rabat
@STOP

@CARTHAGINIANS
Carthage
Utica
Malaca
Caralis
Panormus
Leptis Parva
Cartenna
Rusicade
Gades
Rusucurru
Girba
Leptis Magna
Carthago Nova
Oea
Tingis
Rusaddit
Alalia
Selinus
Himera
Akragas
Theveste
Saguntum
@STOP

@SIOUX
Little Bighorn
Wounded Knee
Cedar Creek
Slim Buttes
Three Forks
Stony Lake
Killdeer
Bear Paw
Big Mound
Wood Lake
Dead Buffalo
Point of Rocks
Raging Brook
Running Bear
Silver Moon
Wildcat Valley
Great River
Seven Brothers
Snake Canyon
First Wind
Yellowtree
Chief's Crag
Morning Rock
@STOP

@INCAS
Cuzco
Quito
Chan Chan
Chucuito
Ayaviri
Vilcashuaman
Acari
Tambo Colorado
Jauja
Pumpu
Huanuco Pampa
Cajamarca
Cusibamba
Tumbes
Tomebamba
Pucara
Machu Picchu
Pisac
Limatambo
Raqchi
Cotopachi
Ica
Inkawasi
Lurin
Tarma Tambo
Paramonga
Ancon
@STOP

@PERSIANS
Persepolis
Pasargadae
Susa
Arbela
Antioch
Tarsus
Gordium
Bactra
Sidon
Tyre
Sardis
Samaria
Hamadan
Ergili
Dariush Kabir
Ghulaman
Zohak
Istakhr
Jinjan
Borazjan
Herat
Dakyanus
Bampur
Tureng Tepe
Merv
Behistun
Kandahar
Altin Tepe
Bunyan
Charsadda
Ura Tyube
Tehran
Isfahan
Qom
Abadan
Meshed
Shiraz
Kermanshahr
Qazvin
Yazd
Resht
Hamadan
Rezaiyeh
Lenkoran
Khorramshahr
Bandar Lengeh
Arak
Lar
Bandar Abbas
Dezful
Bam
Herat
@STOP

@EXTRA
Naples
Issus
Cunaxa
Cremona
Cannae
Capua
Turin
Genoa
Trieste
Verona
Salamis
Lisbon
Warsaw
Prague
Krakow
Budapest
Venice
Milan
Ghent
Pisa
Belgrade
Toronto
Melbourne
Sydney
Nairobi
Vancouver
Ottawa
Edmonton
Calgary
Sao Paulo
Rio de Janeiro
Manila
Bangkok
Kuala Lumpur
Auckland
Adelaide
Jakarta
Cebu
Davao
Yogyakarta
Penang
Chiang Mai
Hanoi
Saigon
Da Nang
Phnompenh
Vientiane
@STOP

 

[allan]

I put Singapore in the Chinese section because a) it has a predominantly Chinese population, and b) I like Singapore (it's a pearl of Asia), and wanted to possibly see it grow big in the game (when the AI gets down to extra cities, they never grow that big...).

Otherwise, I took cities in and around the modern countries that took the place of the ancient civs....

P.S. line from a recent game I played: "Hiroshima builds Manhattan Project." At the very end, of course....

[This message has been edited by allan (edited September 07, 2001).]

 

[Smash]

The Incas and Arabs can be substituted in place of an existing civ.The changes that need to be done are in the rules.txt.You'll find Atawalpa and Saladin.You switch these with existing leaders positions.Do the same with tribes.You can make up your own as well....like Pierre Trudeau of the Canadians

...then make the changes to the city.txt for whichever civ you switching.I don't think anything needs be done to Inca and Arab cities list....you'll know when you found your 1st.
Copy It first
Why are there?
Maybe at one time it was going have more civs?
Maybe they just wanted to give some material for customizing?

who knows...

 

[duke o' york]

Allan, you've got Cornwall down as a city for the English!

Basically, anyone with an atlas can fill in loads of extra cities - easily up to the max for all the civs that survive - and the Zulus can get Johannesburg, Egyptians Tripoli, etc so the difficult ones are really the Carthaginians and Sioux who don't have any surviving and whose sphere of influence is taken over by cities of other civs. The Mongols would start to take modern Russian cities but they can help themselves to Pakistani and Afghan cities. With a bit of research then you can easily extend these lists to the max for all the civs but the two above, in which case you'll need a bit of imagination.
What about Saarbrucken for your German list too? That was the city that my German text book was set in when I was at school

.

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in vino veritas

 

[starlifter]

I used to run a few customized Civ II .TXT files, but have reverted back to the original Civ II files for now. So while we're on the topic of custom lists, here is the city list for a custom tribe that I once played quite a bit, LOL (I'm from city #6)

:

The Texans!!


@TEXANS
Austin
Dallas
Houston
SanAntonio
FtWorth
Arlington
Irving
Mansfield
Waxahachie
Hurst
Euless
Bedford
Cleburne
Hillsboro
Waco
Temple
College Station
Bryan
Rockdale
Thorndale
Pasadena
Galveston
Corpus Christi
Laredo
Midland
ElPaso
Lubbock
Amarillo
Childress
Wichita Falls
Vernon
Gainsgille
Greenville
Sherman
Denton
Mesquite
Tyler
Kilgore
Nacadoches
Lufkin
Beaumont
Cedar Hill
Rockport
Aransas Pass
Cleburne
Glen Rose
@STOP

 

[Surf Wax America]

Thanks for the help guys. I know all about the two civs that werent included. Does anyone know why they werent included?

Also, I know about editing the rules.txt file. Ive had Civ since about 1996 id say. Ive figured out everything to do, but I just wanted an updated list. Thanks for that Allan.

 

[allan]

"Allan, you've got Cornwall down as a city for the English!"

I guess it's not so much a "city" as a "region" (like "Ganges" and "Indus" are rivers on the Indian subcontinent, not cities!). I actually don't have an atlas, I've just visited a lot of places and I'm sort of a geography nerd anyway.... I haven't visited England ever, so I had a hard time coming up with a good list there (and the English AI tends to expand more than most, so some help with a list would be nice...)--just memory, or places I've heard of.... I DID replace Richmond with something since the Americans also use Richmond, and as far as I know the US Richmond (Virginia)is the larger city.... But I lived in Japan for three years, and have travelled through India, China, Southeast Asia, Mexico, and Central America, so I have a lot of familiarity with those places.... Never been anywhere in Europe though, but I have memorized some cities there--especially Scandinavia, where I once planned a trip that never happened.... A globe I have helped out in some cases too.

As for the Sioux, I make up names as I go along when I play them, names that fit the landscape around the city (like "Buffalo Gap", "Pine Ridge" (although that IS a real place in South Dakota), "Two Fish Bay", "Birch Lake", etc.)--just like the Sioux would have named them. And the Babs I didn't bother with because they never EVER get past their list when the AI plays them (although they've come close sometimes)....

I mainly did this to keep the AI from founding "Naples" and "Crete" and whatnot....

 

[Juize]

Allan, u lousy mustard! You just made obsolote 1½ hours of sleepy, crappy work!

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<IMG SRC="http://www.virtuallandmedia.com/flags4/europe/FIN.GIF" border=0> &lt;-- THIS COUNTRY IS ON AMNESTYS DARK LIST OF HUMAN RIGHTS!

 

[allan]

Starlifter: I once thought of creating a "Minnesotan" civ (because like your home state, my home state is a bit different from the rest of the US too). But it sounded strange so I didn't. Maybe I will now....

Of course, in your case, Texas WAS actually a nation of its own once (albeit very briefly)....

 

[allan]

Sorry, Juize--but I probably didn't do all that good on Europe (except your area, where I once made a detailed plan for a trip which fell through)

"<-- THIS COUNTRY IS ON AMNESTYS DARK LIST OF HUMAN RIGHTS!"

Finland? What did they ever do to anybody? I know some police departments in the US are followed pretty closely by Amnesty, though. Haven't kept in touch with them in awhile, I used to donate money to them now and then--they're a good, ideologically-neutral organization designed to uncover man's abuse of fellow man, and I respect them a lot.... So what put Finland on their radar screen? I always thought Scandinavia was one of the most civilized places on earth (even though I don't agree with socialism in principle)....

 

[Juize]

Originally posted by allan:
Sorry, Juize--but I probably didn't do all that good on Europe (except your area, where I once made a detailed plan for a trip which fell through)

"<-- THIS COUNTRY IS ON AMNESTYS DARK LIST OF HUMAN RIGHTS!"

Finland? What did they ever do to anybody? I know some police departments in the US are followed pretty closely by Amnesty, though. Haven't kept in touch with them in awhile, I used to donate money to them now and then--they're a good, ideologically-neutral organization designed to uncover man's abuse of fellow man, and I respect them a lot.... So what put Finland on their radar screen? I always thought Scandinavia was one of the most civilized places on earth (even though I don't agree with socialism in principle)....

It is actually not SO serious... Everyone who declines to be in army is being punished
in prison. This is not so shocking that the goverment is not paying ANY attention to it.
We've been hanging around there since '86, but nobody cares... I do care.
Hmmm, now when I checked your 'viking' section, I noticed that there are some
finnish cities. Finland is nowadays not controlled by vikings, so old names of cities
are replaced by finno-ugrician ones.
Here are some original (swedish) names of cities:

Vaasa : Wasa
Helsinki : Helsingfors
Turku : Åbo
Oulu : Uleåborg
Tampere : Tammerfors
Rovaniemi was founded actually founded when finland was independent so...

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[starlifter]

Wasa is also a city in Finland, but maybe different spelling.

And the Wasa is a very cool Swedish sailing warship, made by a Dutch master about 500 years ago. It was lost (it sunk) on it's maiden voyage out of Stockholm harbor when a little breeze began to blow, and the brand new ship slowly heeled over in front of everyone who came out to watch... and it down it went into about 20 or 30 feet of water.

In the late 1950's or 60's, it was discovered in the mud of Stockholm harbor... perfectly preserved, including all the ship's stores. It took 40 years to painstakingtly salvage/restore/refloat/preserve/display it, but it now resides in all its original glory in a custom museum in Stockholm! I actually got to walk it's decks once when they were restoring it. It is so perfectly preserved.

OK, I guess that was a little off topic, but if you all ever get to Stockholm, be sure to see the Wasa

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[Surf Wax America]

I think perhaps I will visit the Wasa, as next summer I plan on doing the whole Europe thing. I myself would definitely recommend that next time you are in New York City, you take a look at the Intrepid. That was one hell of a boat.