New Civ4 Version launched!!!

[Astax]

What is that hovering above his head?

Sex tenticles?

Seriously what is up with mickey mouse and the 4 finger thing? Does chinese goverment chop fingers of peopel who steal or something? And therefore you can't sell Mickey cause people would think it's a thief? Seriously that coutnry is all kind of ****ed up.

You would feel sorry for them, but if we have to nuke them do it. Most of them have such miserable lives in the countryside that it would probably be an act of mercy.

 

[Saim]

It's his hat.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin Shi Huang

It's actually more historically correct. I hope they add that hat in Civ V or something (just better done, of course).

 

[Tekee]

No that is just more historically accurate
Really you would nuke them for this? Yes some of their Laws are weird but it is really their culture
And No it would not be an act of mercy, they don't have miserable lives in the country I hate it when people think that I hate you!

 

[Saim]

@ Tekee: Oops that's what I meant

 

[ScaryRussian]

You would feel sorry for them, but if we have to nuke them do it. Most of them have such miserable lives in the countryside that it would probably be an act of mercy.

Wrong, it's people like you that piss me off. No, I'm sure it would not be seen as an act of mercy to the Chinese if we nuked China, no matter what their political and social policies are. If anything, if we dropped a single bomb on China, don't be surprised if they think it's an "act of mercy" to drop them on us.

Damn, supporting a nuclear holocaust already? Is that where our society has gone?

 

[Gaius Octavius]

What's this? Russians condemning nuclear holocaust? Boy, times have changed...



On topic, this whole censorship thing seems very weird to me, but not unexpected. Firaxis undoubtedly wants to make sure they'll have a strong market presence as China industrializes. With +1 billion citizens, that's a lot of potential customers...

 

[bds]

this whole censorship thing seems very weird to me

Why? Every country has censorship laws, whether they're legit laws or just enforced by those high up. China's just more open about it, thats all. Why, Just the other night there as a doco on tv about america's censorship of their losses in iraq... somewhat hypocritical for a country that still critisises germany for the same thing.

Most of them have such miserable lives in the countryside that it would probably be an act of mercy.

Since when was living in the countryside miserable?... cities suck big time, crime, polution, noise, arsehole neihbors playing music till 3am in the morning, and so on...

The only thing that sucks about living in the country is the size of the lawn you have to mow.

 

[Tekee]

don't mow the lawn in the country then
i KNOW I hate people like that becuase they say the same sh*t with communism and things they don't understand
I don't think anyone will consider Dropping a abomb on China but it will be to drop one on USA, specifically on your house >.< Unless it is an apartment
You SUCK and and I hate you ASTAX

 

[Saim]

don't mow the lawn in the country then
i KNOW I hate people like that becuase they say the same sh*t with communism and things they don't understand
I don't think anyone will consider Dropping a abomb on China but it will be to drop one on USA, specifically on your house >.< Unless it is an apartment
You SUCK and and I hate you ASTAX

China is no longer communist...

 

[carmen510]

China is no longer communist...

It is, but with more democratic stuff, like some elections, freedoms, etc.

 

[Tee Kay]

I hate censorship.

Still I don't believe Firaxis/Chinese government would go that far to censor Civ4.

The graphics looked neat though.

 

[Saim]

It is, but with more democratic stuff, like some elections, freedoms, etc.

I disagree... it has recently became capitalist, it's just still a dictatorship.

 

[Rod]

If I remember my history lessons correctly then Russia (and the Soviet Union) have always condemned the nuclear holocaust.

If I also remember it correctly then only one land on this planet has used Atomic Bombs so far - and it weren't the Russians.

Besides (just as a side note) the Soviet Union has never formally declared war on anybody.

But lets not talk about that and forget about Astax.

On topic : I think that we maybe see the whole affair from the wrong point of view. Maybe a fantastic game is simply better fitting for the Chinese Market. Lets not forget that Civilization is not an established brand in China, neither is the idea to simulate history or historical battles on board that is so popular in Western Countries.
The Chinese Entertainment is in my belief very much fantastic in nature. See the popular movies, the popular activities, the popular games.
So maybe the idea to present Civ as a fantastic game is not censorship but simply an adjustment to the local taste ? You ever thought about that ?

 

[Lone Wolf]

Besides (just as a side note) the Soviet Union has never formally declared war on anybody.

Only formally...

 

[Fronx]

Besides (just as a side note) the Soviet Union has never formally declared war on anybody.

Sorry for going somewhat off-topic, but this discussion has turned into "cencorship" -discussion...


I think you're incorrect with your statement (quoted).


WWII, it is quite common understanding that it was Soviet Union whom attacked Finland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talvisota), with staged, faked reasons.

I'd rather have country formally declaring war than attacking countries without formally declaring war with them.



Btw, As far as I know, Russian history describes "Winter War" as some unimportant borderclash around 1939. "Nothing to see here, nothing happened here, move along!"

 

[Tekee]

Lol as far as you know? Where did you learn Russian History?

 

[Lone Wolf]

Btw, As far as I know, Russian history describes "Winter War" as some unimportant borderclash around 1939. "Nothing to see here, nothing happened here, move along!"

Not nowdays, anyway. If the USSR hadn't attacked Finland it probably wouldn't have joined Hitler's side - so that war was hardly unimportant.

 

[Kristian95]

You would feel sorry for them, but if we have to nuke them do it. Most of them have such miserable lives in the countryside that it would probably be an act of mercy.

I hope you were joking when you wrote this.... and even as a joke it's a very poor / badly chosen one! That corresponds to someone like me claiming that if al-qaeda terrorbombs all people in the US it will be an act of mercy as the people in the US elected a moron like Bush for president.... and that kind of joke is bad taste at it's optimum!!!

 

[Cennyan]

If you rush settlers using slaves, serfdom to force them to work harder or theocracy to build better soldiers, then how can you complain about a government doing the same thing? "It's a game not RL" Incorrect sir, it's RL portrayed in a game.

 

[covok48]

The copy looks fake. I saw that a lot when I worked in China. Same pirated game with a few modifications to make it more "Chinese". You can put your government sponsered censorship conspiracies to rest now.