New Civs VOTE

Whých cývs would you add to Cýv3 and PTW?

  • The Hittites

    Votes: 79 15.0%
  • The Assyrians

    Votes: 93 17.7%
  • The Netherlands

    Votes: 157 29.8%
  • The Portuguese

    Votes: 160 30.4%
  • The Jews (Israel)

    Votes: 164 31.2%
  • The Scots

    Votes: 102 19.4%
  • Aboriginal Australia

    Votes: 77 14.6%
  • The Inca

    Votes: 245 46.6%
  • The Khmer

    Votes: 56 10.6%
  • The Tibetans

    Votes: 52 9.9%
  • The Polynesians

    Votes: 109 20.7%
  • The Indonesians

    Votes: 63 12.0%
  • The Maya

    Votes: 164 31.2%
  • The Goths

    Votes: 73 13.9%
  • The Armenians

    Votes: 27 5.1%
  • The Thai

    Votes: 66 12.5%
  • Nubia/ another sub-saharan cýv on pan-SSAfrican cýv

    Votes: 113 21.5%
  • The Poles

    Votes: 83 15.8%
  • Another Slav cýv or a Pan-Slav Cýv

    Votes: 50 9.5%
  • other

    Votes: 88 16.7%

  • Total voters
    526
Before the cruzades some viking tried to invade greece from the south of italy but they were defeated.
although they were like mercenaries for the venecian navy.
But then, during the cruzades some vikings armies arrived constantinople.
they were Boemund and Sigmund (or something like that)
In fact, one of them took Antioque and kept it.
 
Oh really? They keep surprising me :)
 
Originally posted by Baleog


No, the Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without a country that can adequatly be deemed their homeland. Although I don't see how they deserve a civ in civIII.

What about the peoples of India and China?
 
Can't India and China be adequatly deemed the homelands if indians and chinese?
 
I've said it before on other threads, and I'll say it again on this one:

If you're going to increase African representation, don't forget that there is such a thing as WHITE Africa... So how about the Boers/Afrikaners to balance things...!?
 
Zyclen:


Both Roger of Sicily and Bohemond de Hautville were Normans and athough they were decendents of Vikings, they would not have been identified as such. Bohemund joined the First Crusade under his pariarch Tancred de Hautville. Boehmund captured Antioch after a bitter siege in 1097-1098 AD, against the turks.he did fight against the Byzantine army in 1081 i which he led a Norman army into Thessaly against Alexius Conmenus. In 1097 he paid homage to Conmeus before dearting Byzantium on the First Crusade. I do not have as much info on Sigmund, but from what I recall he was the primary leader of the Franks in the first crusade.
 
Originally posted by Tweedledum
I've said it before on other threads, and I'll say it again on this one:

If you're going to increase African representation, don't forget that there is such a thing as WHITE Africa... So how about the Boers/Afrikaners to balance things...!?

I think that might be going over the top. I think a pygmy civ would be a better fulfilment of your goal. Having said that, a Afrikaner civ wouldn't be such a bad idea. Do you have any ideas what the city list would be or who the leaders would be?
 
Originally posted by calgacus


I think that might be going over the top. I think a pygmy civ would be a better fulfilment of your goal. Having said that, a Afrikaner civ wouldn't be such a bad idea. Do you have any ideas what the city list would be or who the leaders would be?

I have actually created one myself. It is complete (-ish) and playable - all I need are some leaderheads of Paul Kruger (I've got a .jpg of him but I'm not sure how to get this into the game). At the moment I'm just using Abe as a placeholder (ugly-looking bloke with a beard...:D )
If there's any interest, I'll post all the bits up here (I'm not sure how best to "package" it...). Still need to write the civilopedia entries, but that won't take long...

BTW: not sure how a pygmy civ would help...:confused:
 
Well, because they are the indigenous inhabitants of S.Africa. They have black skin, but they are not strictly speaking of the Black "race". As an indigenous people, they have perhaps more right to represent S.Sfrica than the Boers or Zulu.
 
I think that Canada should be represented but I guess I'm a little biased on that. Wait! Newfoundland, Definitely. Really, I'm serious.

(Actually I made Newfoundland a Civ in CivII but I haven't quite got the editor figured out for CivIII):)
 
This is going to be very controversial... But I think there should be Iraq... with Saddam Hussien as the character. I think that would make for very good game play
 
Originally posted by King_Lewis
This is going to be very controversial... But I think there should be Iraq... with Saddam Hussien as the character. I think that would make for very good game play

Stop kidding please. Hamurabi does that job perfectually well.

This is historical here!!!
 
I want to put a slight question mark on the whether the Songhai empire was bigger than all of Europe. That would imply a size of over 10 million sqkm, a third of the entire African continent and vastly bigger than the extention alotted to the Songhai Empire in my historical atlases (perhas 3 million sqkm).

And the reference to a contemporary Mongol empire is puzzling. By Songhai's independence from Mali ~1375, the empire of Kublai Khan was no more. Could the reference be to Timur Lenk's (Tamerlane's) much more modest empire? The late middle ages were, for some reason, not a period of great empires on the Eurasian landmass, with Ming China as the chief exception.

To the guy who thought the Khmers aren't around any longer; you'd better keep a good distance to Cambodia, since it's inhabitants might be slightly irked by hearing that they don't exist anymore.

A Chinese ethnicity does exist; it's certainly the largest in the world, and one of the older. The fact that the PRC also includes a variety of ethnic minorities, some of the numbering in the millions (Uighurs, Mongols, Tibetans and some lesser-known groups) don't change the fact that by world standards, China is a relatively ethnically homogenous country.

If the Assyrians were to be added in, the Babylonian civ would have to suffer some editing too; no less than FOUR Assyrian campitals feature in the Babylonian city list (Nineve, Assur, Nimrud/Calah and Khorsabad/Dur-Sharrukin). As it's now, the Babylonian civ seems to represent all the Mesopotamian cultures before the Persian conquest.
 
Scotts man... William Wallace. Now that would be cool
 
The Babylonian civ does seem to represent all of Mesopotamia, but there is little justification for merging the Sumerians and Assyrians who are both very distinctive civs. I would accept it though if it were known as Mesopotamia rather than Babylon.
 
It's interestig that the clear leader is the Inca. I think I have to agree with the poll that they are the worst omission from PTW, a bit like the Spanish in the original. South America has no representation whatever.
 
i think the austrian hungry empre should be there. until treaty of versailles in 1919 at the end of WW1, it was a very strong and large nation, that played a major part in europe.
 
Originally posted by farting bob
i think the austrian hungry empre should be there. until treaty of versailles in 1919 at the end of WW1, it was a very strong and large nation, that played a major part in europe.

No Kiding, Where is Austria-Hungary?
 
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